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Aafia Siddique: What happens when you are shot by a 9mm handgun

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Raystonn, Aug 12, 2008.

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  1. Raystonn

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    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5567066&page=3

    It sounds painful, but she lived. I suppose if they had larger caliber weapons then we wouldn't have been able to interrogate her.

    -Raystonn
     
  2. rantingredneck

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    I suspect being shot twice in the belly with a .45ACP would have had similar results.

    Placement, not caliber was what kept her from dying. Also the fact that the people that shot her were then obligated to render immediate aid.
     
  3. hso

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    No, it's the location of the gunshot wound in this case and the availability of medical care that contributed to her survival. Even is she was shot with something that began with a 4 the outcome would have been the same.

    If you read through THR you'll see the endless "caliber wars", but the fact of the matter is that where she was shot is much more important than what she was shot with.
     
  4. GTSteve03

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    They made sure to shoot her with the 9mm since it's barely more powerful than a tazer. They wanted to interrogate her, not kill her.

    If they were serious, they would have used John Browning's most-holy 1911 shooting the blessed .45ACP man-stopper. If that massive chunk of lead hits you pretty much anywhere you're going down for the count and not getting up!
     
  5. .38 Special

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    No, man, forget that old fogey 1911. If they'd shot her with a GLOCK it would have been all over. Any caliber from a GLOCK, even if hit in the toenail, is instantly lethal and would have caused her to fly through the air and impact the nearest solid object like a ragdoll.

    Don't you guys play any video games at all?
     
  6. rantingredneck

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    See, we have two kidneys. Getting shot in one isn't immediately fatal. We also have quite a few feet of total intestine. People live with sections removed all the time. Getting shot there isn't immediately fatal, though the sepsis that can result can be over time.

    Absent hitting a major blood vessel (abdominal aorta) or the Liver a shot to the belly with immediate aid following will more than likely be survivable.
     
  7. Weezy

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    What about a desert eagle, man? Those things shoot FIFTY CALS!!!! That's like those big*** machine guns on tanks!!

    (Actual told to me regarding my .38 :banghead:)
     
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    What about a desert eagle, man? Those things shoot FIFTY CALS!!!!
    That's like those big*** machine guns on tanks!! "
    Yup, I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME. Plus, EAGLES are clumsy, heavy, and hard to control in recoil. Some of it is jus plain Bovine Scatology (B.S.) and some is true. I own two DEPs, one .50 in 6" and 10", and one .44 mag in 10", and find them about as easy to control as my G21s in +P loads. With proper hearing-protection they are quite a joy to shoot, but expensive to plink with. I shoot with latex examination-gloves to weld my hands to the grip. It is amazing how the gun recoils and reloads itself. With a bit of focused effort you can actually feel the bolt spin and unlock and run backwards. The same thing in reverse as the bolt charges the round and locks in the breech. I take the recoil in my wrists and let my shoulders do their job, too. The 10" bbls can be aimed and shot quite well off-hand, onehanded, if you have good wrists (I am a bass-played) and know about breath control. At 25 yards I regularly place 28 shots (four magazines) in the 4" circles. Don't knock it you don't own it. .50FAN
     
  9. KiltedClaymore

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    all bullets hurt. BAD. lethality just depends on where you get hit. plus, she was shot by military personel(spelling?). they are required to use FMJ bullets, which we all know do minimal damage in the perminant wound cavity department
     
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    I heard if you shoot someone in the ponytail with a desert eagle, it snaps their neck!;)
     
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    I heard that just shooting near a perp with a deagle will cause their heart to stop.

    Question for the masses: if you rechambered a deagle to fire 9mm, would it still be a better handgun than anything else on the market or would it be the best handgun on the market?
     
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    naw, just the heaviest :D :evil:
     
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    The Same Thing . . .

    Shot twice by a 9mm bullet does exactly the samething as if shot by a .45 ACP, just that the wounds are smaller and not as messy. cliffy
     
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    Man, you can't use a .45 in a situation like that! It'll kill everyone within five feet of the bullet's path! Is that what you want, you maniac?!
     
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    That's for me to know and not you!
    You see this is the part I have a problem with. does this seem interesting to anyone else?
     
  16. KiltedClaymore

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    indeed. any clue as to why he was in arms reach? or that she wasn't wearing wrist cuffs, ankle bracelets, and a waist chain?
     
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    shoulda used a 177 air rifle. Cause 177 is bigger than 9+45.It's like three times more powerful than a .50 cause 50x3 is almost 177.
     
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    In Iraq ,summer 2006, a young Lt. leading his squad on a patrol heard small arms fire around the corner and behind the wall that was ahead of them. He ordered his men to wait while he went around the corner to investigate. When he turned the corner he found himself less than five feet from the muzzle of a 9mm berreta pointed at his face by an insurgent. The Iraqi fired immediately as he had heard the officer coming. To the insurgent's amazement and shock the officer did not go down. After initially stepping back at the shot, the officer brought back up his rifle about the same time his men came running at the sound of fire and covered the insurgent. The insurgent was so mesmerized by an American absorbing a head shot he didn't get a second shot off before being apprehended.

    The NCO with the officer went over to check on him. The officer told him he felt a little woozy from the muzzle blast but told him the Iraqi must have missed. The NCO noting that there was blood on the Lt's lips insisted he go to the hospital and get checked out. Smart NCO.

    I, Sommerled, did not personnaly see this Lt, but I did review his radiographs and surgeon's report.

    He was shot by an american ball 9mm round the insurgent had gotten hold of. It went through his upper lip. Blew out his two top front teeth while leaving most of the roots. The bullet, quite deformed, finally lodged in the soft tissue behind his epiglottis less than an inch from his cervical spine. He was seen by an oral surgeon aquaintance of mine who said the bullet was easily removed as it had neatly avoided any major blood vessels. Apparently the Lt. was pretty pissed off that he lost his front teeth as he said he'd,"never even had a cavity". There was much speculation if it was a "dud" or underpowered round, but it was undoubtably an american military round as the gun and mag were recovered and investigated. It would seem incredible that the Lt's teeth could have slowed the bullet down that much. But sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

    At any rate, it was not his time to die.

    Sommerled
     
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  19. CliffH

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    Got a nephew who's a nurse in a local hospital. A few days ago a young lady (?) was brought in with a gunshot wound.

    Seems she's a member of a local gang and was shot in the buttocks with a 9mm by a rival gang member in a "walk-by" shooting.

    He described the wound as a through and through about the size of a pencil.

    A .45 would probably have taken off both sides....
     
  20. MD_Willington

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    if it was a "walk by" the perp should have used a $9 machette or a $15 sledge hammer... either way both of those would beat 9x19 or .45 ACP in that case, and would have been a hell of a lot messier..


    Nuke em from orbit!
     
  21. MJRW

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    I heard if you even just think about what it is like to get shot by a "deagle," you die from hydrosomatic shock.
     
  22. jackdanson

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    You are full of it, I'm thinking of that right nowaiopaatytyuuuu..............
     
  23. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Huh, that's weird. 9mm slugs usually just bounce off people and land harmlessly on the ground. I think there must be more to this story...
     
  24. offshorebear

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    Was she shot by a FMJ 9mm? Its army right?
     
  25. Tarvis

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    What is the survival rate of a pistol wound, something like 85%? Anyone else heard that?

    For the record, most of the desert eagle comments were tongue in cheek, no need for name calling ;).
     
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