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About vertical fore-grips...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by john5036, Apr 16, 2012.

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  1. john5036

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    Okay, I need some opinions regarding vertical fore-grips.

    To answer some questions you might have for me (Thanks, Z):

    1. What's the purpose of your AR?
    - HD
    - Farm gun on weekends

    2. What's your thoughts on a VFG?
    - I think they are mostly superfluous, but whatever, I don't mind it.
    - I already possess an angled FG from Magpul, which I do like very much but have plans to move it onto either a mid-length or rifle-length system in the future.

    3. What's your current handguard?
    - I currently run an AB Arms carbine handguard. It does have a handstop, sort of, as there is an ergonomic mold to it. It's a different iteration of the Magpul MOE handguards.
    - The handguard has the Magpul-style rail slot just underneath/behind the FSB. Would this require the RVG or MVG mounting kit?

    Also, the cost of the VFG is not a factor, what I really need information on (not to settle anything) are the pros and cons to a standard sized "broomstick" type, or the "stubby" thumb-break style VFG.

    Lastly, I'm not interested in what'll make me more tacticool or strike awe-inspiring fear into those who would gaze upon my AR. My primary passion is to shoot well, and my secondary goal is to complement target acquisition/overall gun handling by taking advantage of the various accessories out there. I really need some utility-minded perspective. Like I said, I love the angled FG, but I feel it's put to better use on a middy/rifle. A VFG would seem to be a minimal, but effective add-on for the carbine.

    Thanks everyone!
     
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  2. Creature

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    ...I was always under the impression that VFGs were more useful on selective-fire or full-automatic weapons.
     
  3. Z-Michigan

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    I can't even tell what your question is.

    The Magpul vertical grips cost around $20 and work great. Buy one, try it, see if you you like it or not. If you don't, resell it for $10-15 and you've lost very little.
     
  4. john5036

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    You did fine, Z, just asking for opinions :)
     
  5. mastiffhound

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    I was completely against VGs. I have no reason why but one day about a month ago at Cabela's I picked one up. I put it on the sr-556 and low and behold it seems like a different gun. It seems more balanced, hell it is more balanced. It made such a difference I am looking at getting more of them for other firearms. I picked up a CAA VG for 18.99 and it was worth every penny. It fixed the only problem I had with the sr-556, it was always so front heavy. Now it handles the way an AR pattern rifle should. I may have just found a way to explain piston and other types AR look-a-like rifles too! AR pattern does sound right.
     
  6. SabbathWolf

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    Well...I have a vertical grip on 2 of my weapons.

    The first one is on a 9mm Beretta Carbine.
    I added it because it gave me extra battery storage and a perfect fit for the tape switch of the tac-light. It works great for that.

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    The second vertical grip is on my milled AK.
    For that I installed an Army issue Grip-Pod.
    With the press of a button, it instantly becomes a Bi-Pod for prone shooting at longer distances, and also helps a LOT with rapid fire strings in keeping the gun on target.
    When the Bi-Pod option is not needed, it just becomes a grip again.

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    Both of my grips serve a very specific purpose for "me," ... but I like dual purpose stuff. I don't really need a grip that does nothing more than just be a grip. I can live without that.
     
  7. john5036

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    That's an excellently set up AK. Also, your idea of a dual purpose utility has great appeal and is something I'll think about. Thanks!
     
  8. SabbathWolf

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    You're welcome.
    And thanks.
    I put a lot of thought into both guns actually.
    I wanted my lights to be at the 6 o'clock position because I like it best that way, but still wanted a vertical grip with extra features...AND still have enough room behind both for a "standard" support hand hold as well if I didn't feel like using the vertical grip. It worked out pretty good "finally."
    On the AK I can operate the light while holding the vertical grip...or...still use the rail mounted pressure pad as well from the standard hold.
     
  9. Robert

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    My brother loves his VFG but he trianed with one in the Army so it is second nature to him. I hate them and have yet to find one I like, and that includes the AFG. To each his own really.
     
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    I thought they were silly.......and then I tried one. Now they're on every rifle I own to which they are appropriate.
     
  11. john5036

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    Craig, which one(s) did you end up going with?
     
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    1. What's the purpose of your AR?
    -HD, 3 gun, SRS match, plinking and SHTF

    2. What's your thoughts on a VFG?
    -I find them useful for carbine. I like them on a carbine or shorter because of ergonomics. As i bring my left hand closer to the reciever, i find that the vertical grip is more comfy and gives me better control of the weapon. Even on my carbines, i tend to grip out as far as i can and mainly use the VFG as a hand stop. However, if i need to bring my arms in i like gripping the VFG.
    -For longer ARs, i find VFGs useless. I like a FF tube with top rail only or an A2 forend on longer ARs because i like further out grip with my thumb over the top of the tube and palm on the left side of the tube.

    3. What's your current handguard?
    - My HBAR has an A2 handguard, no VFG.
    - My 18" rifle has a Midwest Industries Gen 1 SS-12, no VFG.
    - My carbine has a Midwest Industries Gen 1 SS-12 with a short VFG about 4-5 inches from the receiver.

    Also: I like a VFG over a AFG. I tried the AFG, but found the ergonomics not right for me. My wrist felt twisted and it took to much rail space which made thumb over grip more difficult. I also like a short VFG. The longer VFGs seem to get in the way and the extra lenght is unneeded. I like the TD stubbeis, but I have a CAA long VFG, so i cut it down.

    my carbine:
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  13. ForumSurfer

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    1. What's the purpose of your AR?
    - Two uppers, one 22 LR, (both carbine) one for plinking and the other for plinking.
    - for taking a (hopefully) near future carbine course :)

    2. What's your thoughts on a VFG?
    - Great if you're shooting SOOOO much that your forend is too hot to hold. That will likely never happen to me.
    - I have the afg2...I prefer the stubby magpul vertical fore grip and using it as a handstop

    3. What's your current handguard?
    - 223 upper: MI free float quad rail. Useless for me. All that is on there is a sling mounting point, light and a afg2
    - 22 upper: magpul carbine handguards with a stubby foregrip mounted rearward to use as a handstop. I love this much more than the more expensive MI setup and I can still have a light, handstop and a sling mount with less weight.
     
  14. joed

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    Been debating putting mine on my AR. When I looked at AR's I had a hard time with the one that came with the porcupine fore end grips. When the salesman handed me one of those I handed it right back and said no thanks. He than explained that with the porcupine grip you use the VFG. I figure the porcupine grips are for those that think they're cool by hanging radios, TVs and furniture off the fore end.
     
  15. Gtimothy

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    I put a grip pod on my AR because I couldn't afford the Harris Bi pod I wanted. I have Magpul furniture on it and the Grip pod is mounted to a Magpul 3" Picatinny rail insert. Eventually I'll get the Harris but for right now, it does what I need it to. I just use my ARs to kill paper!!! :D
     

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  16. john5036

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    Which is it, the MVG or the RVG that attached to the MOE HG?
     
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    The MVG bolts directly to the bottom of the Magpul MOE hand guard, but is too short for me. I put one on my wife's AR and she likes it. The RVG mounts to a Picatinny rail. The MOE hand guard doesn't have any Picatinny rails but has slots that you can mount MOE accessory rails (Picatinny rail sections in different lengths) which is what I did to mount my Grip pod.
     
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    Just picked up the newer S&W M&P MOE. One of the changes is the inclusion of the Magpul MVG. I tried it with and without the grip. I must say the grip does make the rifle feel more balanced and easier to hold against the shoulder when switching the safety, ejecting a mag, or just shooting from a standing position. It's small enough that it doesn't get in the way or add any considerable weight.
     
  19. jon_in_wv

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    Recently I upgraded my Saiga (Ak configuration) from its standard foregrip to a SGM tri-rail with a vertical fore grip. It feels much more controllable now. The VFG also works great as a makeshift monopod for shooting off the bench or other support. I'm glad I installed it.
     
  20. ForumSurfer

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    The MVG really shines for those who just want a handstop to pull back against and don't use it as a vertical grip.
     
  21. Ian

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    Tactical WWI vertical front grip! :p

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    The rifle was fairly comfortable to shoot with that grip. I've tried vertical grips on some AKs, and didn't care for them. I tend to just grab the magazine.
     

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    I've tried Magpul, Tangodown and Tapco. Prefer the Magpul. Though I wish the clamp was a little better designed.
     
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    that Grip-Pod is EXACTLY what i have been looking for. I have seen some others, but they were cheaply built and loose. This is probably rock solid if the military and LEO use it.
     
  24. SabbathWolf

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    http://www.grippod.com/


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    VFG's? Current "in fashion" accessory to eventually go the way of the leisure suit. Just my opinion.
     
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