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Accidentally carried where illegal

Discussion in 'Legal' started by geronimo509, Dec 5, 2008.

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  1. geronimo509

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    I'm just wondering if anyone has found themselves carrying concealed and found out it was illegal, or knew it was but forgot to remove firearm before leaving the house?:confused:

    I'm curious because i was going to school (community college) and when i parked my car and was about to get out and go to class i noticed i was still carrying! It was a HUGE mistake on my part! It's just that my firearm is like an extension of my body and forgot to take it off my hip before leaving for school. I ended up driving back home and was late for class.

    I know i made the right choice! However, would it have been that bad if i unloaded it and separated the ammo from the gun and left it in my car??

    I am a law abiding citizen and do not want to get in trouble for something like that.

    Furthermore, what should I do if this ever happens again and I am far away from home? It wouldn't be at school, but another place that is a gun free zone.

    I'm pretty sure that i posted this in the right place and i searched and didnt find anything close to this. If im wrong, you (moderator) can do what is necessary.
     
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    I was of the impression that it was no illegal to have a gun in a parked car in a school parking lot. I can't recall why I think that, but I do recall that.

    I'm sure somebody can help clarify.
     
  3. 7.62Reaper

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    hide it in your car. Here in Ohio with your CHL its legal to have your handgun stored in your car while you go inside the school.
     
  4. geronimo509

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    i dont know but i was under the impression that one cannot bring it on the property and the parking lot is their property
     
  5. divemedic

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    I did carry a firearm on a flight from Orlando to Memphis by accident once. I even had to change aircraft in Atlanta. I kept my mouth shut and worried that I would be discovered for the entire flight.

    It was in my carry on bag, and no one noticed it was in there. I got lucky.
     
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    I've been in this situation multiple times, and it is the exact reason why I am against any and all prohibitions on carrying.

    First, since you are in Bethlehem, PA, I'd like to point out that you did nothing illegal. Carrying on a college campus, or community college, is not illegal. Now, it may be against your school's rules, but there are no laws against it. In fact, except for post offices and courts, there really aren't any places you can't carry according to state law.

    Second, you can always leave your gun locked in your car, loaded or unloaded. Again, there is no law against it; however, it may be against your school's policy. It's up to you to decide whether or not you feel comfortable doing so. Guns were not allowed on my college campus (Lehigh University), either. I respected the school's policy while I attended class, but I also regularly kept my firearm locked in my car while on campus. Sure, it was technically against school policy, but I weighed the risks and decided it was worth doing.

    Remember: just because it's against the rules doesn't mean it's illegal.
     
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    divemedic,

    Just out of curiosity, was that pre-9/11 and TSA, or after? Either way, I'm glad you made it without anyone noticing. I bet that was a nerve racking few hours of travel!
     
  8. geronimo509

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    Daniel can you please tell me where you came across this info?
     
  9. Prince Yamato

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    As a rule of thumb, I would never post my misdeed on the internet...

    anyhow, most state laws have something that reads like this, "if the person intentionally brings or carries a firearm onto the premises (or grounds or both)..."

    You did not intentionally do something wrong. So, even if you were arrested, the charges would probably be waived as it was not your intention to break the law.
     
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    with what your saying Prince, if i intentionally defend myself by using my firearm and it goes through the BG and hits an innocent, i can claim that i did not intentionally hit the innocent person?? that sounds fishy, kinda like being ignorant to the law and thats why ou broke it, ya know.. anyway back on topic
     
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    well, i was in a pickle of sorts a while back. i had to go into the school to get my son, but there was another person with me. i did not want her to get into trouble for having a concealed weapon without a license, nor did i want to get into trouble for carrying into the school. i have a suv, so it is not like there is a trunk. what i ended up doing, even though i didnt want to was telling the person that i carried, and that i had to leave the gun in the car. i unloaded it and took the ammo with me, and put the gun inside the spare tire carrier in the back of the suv. so when i got back to the car, we had to have this long talk about why i carry (the other person is my anti-gun mother in law, and is so out of touch with the world it is just sickening). so now, every time she calls, there is this big speil about how dangerous guns are, and how she wants to call cps on us, but she wont because she would never see the kids again. aghhr, sometimes, @$#&^(R$#&(&(*&*
     
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    And here I gotta take my shoes off, turn my laptop on, and throw away my cigarette lighter :banghead:
     
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    lol dive please tell me this was pre-9/11
     
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    That happened to me once too, back in 1986-87 or so. I had a Rohm RG-10 .22 short revolver in my camera bag, which went through two x-ray machines and one hand inspection. I totally forgot it was in there, until I was going through the bag at my destination and found it. I KNOW I turned white as a sheet, I'd probably STILL be in jail.

    Still have that stupid pistol too.
     
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    Done this once here in TN. Couple and friends and I went to a downtown coffee shop one afternoon. I was packing as always. We'd been there probably half an hour when I noticed that there was a second counter, away from the one where we'd ordered, with beer taps behind it.

    Uh-oh. Carrying where alcohol is served is a no-no in TN.

    That's one of the things that bugs be about the alcohol restriction here. Not every place that serves has a big "OMF BEER SERVED HERE" sign out front. Hopefully our new-found Repub-controlled legislature will take care of this in 2009...
     
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    I will pretty much musc always stash it in the glove box or possibly the trunk in these situations. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be searching your car in these situations so you should be fine. I tend to prefer the glove box beacouse it is easyier to discretetly stash the gun there than the trunk. Outside the car someone is more likely to notice what you are doing.

    This past spring I went to a convention. I knew I could not carry at the con but was supprised to learn that ever single parking garage nearby also prohibited firearms. So I wrapped it in a spare shirt I had in the cab and locked it in the trunk with the spare tire. Legal no, but it is crazy to expect to drive back home, over night trip, to drop it off.
     
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    Pretty much. In Arizona, the law states that any adult who is not a student may store an unloaded firearm in their vehicle on school grounds. Campus policies are normally anti-gun, although with my legal storage measures the firearm itself is not visible from outside the vehicle with the doors closed and is cased (cannot be considered concealed). Long story short, if someone happens to see it as I'm getting into or out of the vehicle (and doesn't assume it's the pouch containing the car's manual) and comments, it's "Good day, sir" followed by me driving off. Unless it is a uniformed officer asking me questions, I will neither confirm nor deny anything someone thinks they saw, and I am not legally beholden to do so.
     
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    I said i got to school and turned around and went home. so its not that much of a misdeed. I was just wondering to see if it happens again if it would be alright to lock it in my car. Just so you have the facts right.
     
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    I was still married to my first wife, so that would make it 1995-1996. I don't remember the exact date.
     
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    also the pa forum is pretty cool.. i have the same name there now..
     
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    I can believe you made it threw an airport with a firearm. Back in the 80's it was no big deal.

    Well back in the 80's I did a book report on firearms and took one to my class in school. Was told not to bring any shells in with it. Leave them in my truck.



    Unless I missed something and the law changed since I took my CDW coarse, no carry on school premises doesn't mean a firearm can't be in your automobile. It was only illegal if you "brandished" the firearm.
     
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    On occasion. Accidently and on purpose...
     
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