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I think I will get a wide range of answers to this question . Been a member for a little over 2 years, been reloading about 3 . Still learning. Keep reading post about reloading for accuracy . Question . What is the most important step in reloading for accuracy ? Other than the shooter is it the powder charge , neck tension , crimp , seating depth , oal or something I have missed . I know it can have many variations according to the gun . There are no stupid questions , just trying to gain knowledge . Thanks !
 
Both answers above are the basis for accuracy. You need to have good quality bullets as they are more consistent about weight and spin true on the way to the target. THEN it follows that as closely as you want to match each component/step with all the other rounds so that each round produced has the exact weight bullet, exact same propellant charge, exact weight casing that is prepared the exact same way, exact same neck length/tension,-------etc. etc. down to a miniscule difference. For me it comes down to not being able to notice the difference in rounds fired VS extra time spent making said rounds.
 
There is a lot to it. One thing doesn't make a rifle accurate. You need a good barrel, a good bullet, and you need the patience to test all of the other factors. In my opinion, if you are using good bullets in a good barrel. Find a powder that it likes and pick the best charge weight. Then adjust seating depth. This will get you about 90 percent of your available accuracy. It will take a lot of testing to wring the last 10 percent out of it, you will have to do your part in shooting it too.
 
Finding a load that works well in your weapon is the first step. Once you do that, pay attention to every aspect and reproduce all your variables as consistently as possible.

Consistency is accuracy.

-MW
 
I think that when you get all of the other factors figured out such as consistency, a good bullet, and do a lot of testing with different powders you will find out that neck tension is the one that will keep you thinking about the process. It's a great feeling when every bullet goes into the case neck with exactly the same amount of pressure and the feeling of seating every bullet is exactly the same. When I seat a bullet I want to push the reloading press handle down with the light pressure of one finger.
 
jwrowland77, actually I do use the light pressure of my thumb. It was easier to get the point across by saying the light pressure of one finger.
 
As jwrowland77 said: Consistency.

BUT you have to find the right mix of components first.

Take for instance: one of my 9mms HATES 115 gr bullets of any kind.
I get jam after jam after 5" groups.
But that same gun with 124 gr LRN is as accurate as I can be - with no jams.
And I haven't found the difference other than 9grs.
Doesn't matter what profile the bullet is.
115gr? :barf: :barf: :barf:

124gr? :D :D :D

Your mileage WILL vary YMWV
 
I can only speak to handgun calibers since that is what 99% of my shooting involves. For reloading cast and plated bullets, IMO, bullet diameter is by far the #1 factor in achieving accuracy. Obviously there are many other things that will factor in to it but, if your bullets are not the correct diameter for your barrel you will never achieve good accuracy.

Proper case expanding, neck tension and crimp all play into the diameter issue since insufficient case expanding, improper tension or crimping can all swage down the bullet.

In my experience here are steps that must be followed for cast or plated bullets in handgun calibers.

1. Start by slugging your barrel to determine its diameter.
2. Size your bullets .001 or even .002 larger than that.
3. Make sure that you are expanding the case enough (flaring) to seat the bullet without swaging it down in size. Verify this by pulling a couple after seating and measuring the diameter.
4. Use the plunk test to determine OAL. Do a search for this if you are not familiar with it. It is important.
5. Don't over crimp as this will also screw with the bullet diameter.
 
My experience has been a consistent powder charge, neck tension, and a quality bullet.

If I had to pick one, it would be the bullet. Bergers are pricey but they shoot so good.
 
Absolutely, consistency. However, there are levels of accuracy too. A deer(or any hunting rifle) rifle that consistently shoots 3" groups at 100 is as accurate as the bench rest rifle that shoots under a tenth.
No point loading match grade bullets for a deer rifle though. Match bullets not being for deer sized game aside. The barrel on a regular commercial hunting rifle isn't up to great accuracy. Certainly up to being consistent though.
 
. The barrel on a regular commercial hunting rifle isn't up to great accuracy.


I don't know about that.....

I have a Savage Axis Heavy Barrel in .223 that gives me anywhere from 1/3"-1/2" groups....at 200yds regularly with my hand loads.

Also have a Rem 700 7mm Rem Mag (main hunting rifle) that consistently gives me dime sized 5-shot groups at 100yds with hand loads.

Have a Rem 700 SPS .308 that is use for FTR that consistently gives me sub moa as long as I do my part out to 600yd with properly tweaked hand loads.
 
The first thing is a matching combination of bullet, powder, and individual gun. They must be a working combination. All of the other things are fine tuning. If you have a bad or mediocre combination to start with, you cannot fine tune it into an accurate load.
 
jwrowland77 said:
chief9 said:
What is the most important step in reloading for accuracy?
Consistency in everything! Consistency equals accuracy.
I absolutely agree!

IMO, consistent chamber pressure is the most important aspect of reloading that produces greater accuracy. You reload to produce consistent chamber pressures and you are likely to get more consistent muzzle velocities and lower SD numbers.

is it the powder charge, neck tension, crimp, seating depth, oal or something I have missed.
These are reloading variables we must work with and ways to optimize for accuracy or compensate for when using mixed range brass:

Bullet selection - As many posted, I think bullet selection is one of the more important factor for accuracy. For me, Montana Gold/Remington/Speer/Winchester etc. jacketed bullets have shown less than 1 gr weight variance compared to 2-3+ gr variance of plated bullets. With lead bullets, I have seen 5+ gr variance depending on the brand/caliber weight. As others posted, lead bullets that are sized .001"+ groove diameter of your barrel and/or of soft enough alloy (12-18 BHN) to match the powder/charge used will better deform the bullet base to seal with the barrel to produce more consistent chamber pressures.

Many prefer bullet types with longer base for accuracy (like 9mm 124/125 gr vs 115 gr, Hollow base vs solid base, SWC vs RN, JHP vs FMJ, TCFP vs RN, non-step RN vs stepped RN) as having more weight towards the back of the bullet/longer bearing surface to engage the rifling may produce greater rotational stability in flight. But using bullets with longer base has limitations as bullet seating depth and powder compression may limit powder selection and charges used.

Brass - Unless you use new brass or once-fired same headstamp brass, you are going to get different chamber pressures from varying degrees of brass quality and condition. Also, your resized case length will vary with mixed range brass and for semi-auto calibers that headspace on case mouth, variation in case length will produce different amount of bullet sticking above the case mouth. For greater consistency, you can sort "resized" brass by length.

Neck tension - Same as above, work hardening of brass will vary depending on the headstamp and number of firings and will affect malleability of brass/neck tension. If you are using mixed range brass, this variation is a reloading variable you must work with. You can maximize neck tension by using bullet types with longest base/bearing surface, minimizing expander/flare, and using deeper bullet seating depth (if you are using bullets with short base like 115 gr FMJ/RN). Some plated bullets have softer lead alloy core and bullets like RMR HM plated bullets with harder 11-12 BHN alloy may produce greater neck tension consistency.

OAL/Seating depth - Using longest working OAL/COL will reduce high pressure gas leakage and will produce more consistent chamber pressures. If you are using progressive press, resizing brass in separate step may reduce OAL/bullet seating depth variation from shell plate tilt/deflection.

Crimp - Although I use match barrels with tighter chambers, I prefer not to use excessive taper crimp to prevent reducing bullet diameter. Often taper crimp of .021"-.022" added to the diameter of the bullet will be enough and will freely chamber in even tighter barrels. Depending on the bullet type used, some reloaders won't even use taper crimp as they will simply seat the bullet with minimal flaring of case mouth to not require any taper crimp.

Powder/Charge - For me, drop to drop variance of less than .1 gr is preferred and is the requirement for my match loads. Some large flake powders like Unique/Red Dot/Promo will meter with .2+ gr variance but still produce accurate loads. Some denser powders like Titegroup, .2-.3+ gr is the full start/max charge load range and will require more precise metering.

IMO, slower burn rate powders than Unique/Universal will obtain optimal accuracy with high-to-near max load data. So if you are loading lighter recoil practice/match loads below high range load data, you want to consider using faster burn rate powders that can produce accuracy with lower powder charges. Fast burn rate powders like Bullseye can produce accurate loads even below start charges that require lighter recoil springs to cycle the slide.

Barrel - Many factory barrels have twist rate of 1:10 while match barrels have 1:16, 1:18, 1:20 and even slower twist rate. IME, KKM barrel with slow 1:20 twist rate has produced greater accuracy than 1:10 factory and 1:16 Lone Wolf barrels with faster twist rate.

There are other reloading variables and you can follow the discussion on this thread - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=778197
 
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