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Action movies just aren't as much fun anymore...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by brandnew, Mar 2, 2009.

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  1. brandnew

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    I liked them better when I was too uneducated to spot the errors in weapons handling and the inaccuracy of ballistics or tactics.

    Example: I just watched a guy in a movie shoot an AR with a 30 round magazine on full auto for 6 seconds... what is that, a freakin magic bottomless magazine? Yeah, i would have thought that was cool a long time ago, but now...

    Ruined, just ruined!
     
  2. Hungry Seagull

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    I used to watch Marital arts movies and pick out the Ninjas making all sorts of mistakes.

    It got so bad I could not bear to watch them anymore.

    I dont mind the Bond, James Bond so much but, half the stuff has been Hollywood pixie dust to entertain the masses.

    I see myself coming out of the movie hall having spent 30 dollars on myself and wife imagining that I can take down the entire mall with a sweep of a endless ammo equippted miniuzi or something.

    No, Movies are for entertainment. I just became very selective.

    Here are my suggestions.

    Band of Brothers.

    Saving Pvt Ryan.

    Patriot Games.

    Glory.

    Etc

    But once in a while along comes a movie when they TRY to get everything right. That is a wonder to behold indeed.
     
  3. Gamera

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    You haven't seen movie weapon mistakes until you've seen Scifi channel original movies (every Saturday at 9:00pm EST). My favorite part of this weeks movie was some guy firing his revolver at a giant snake. It looked great... except for the fact that the cylinder wasn't rotating...

    Oh oh, and then there's the whole "when you're out of ammo the gun just goes click and the slide doesn't lock back" thing...
     
  4. Hungry Seagull

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    Or Battlestar Galatica (Spelling?)'s CO telling the Bridge to prepare the Surface to Air batteries when they are deep in space with not a bit of air for a very long way.

    It's easier to watch Westerns, at least with the shooting they did with the rifles, it was more credible.
     
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    Was watching something once, can't recall what, but the guy somehow cocked the hammer on a Glock.
     
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    I love how everyone always racks the slide when trying to intimidate someone they had just been chasing - like they didn't have a round in the chamber the whole time. :)
     
  7. Gamera

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    Oh yeah and on BSG they use Beretta CX4s. I mean really? Get those space marines some plasma blasters or HK weapons please!

    Anyone see Appaloosa? The gunfights in that were excellent. Quick and deadly.
     
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  8. Rockwell1

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    If you're going to complain about terminology you might as well fault them for calling "radar" "Dradis"

    I always got a kick out of the scene in Rio Lobo where John Wayne is knocked into a river with a cap & ball revolver and comes up firing. :D
     
  9. Hungry Seagull

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    Or the one with the Boilerplate inside of the blanket over the chest. Man that's gotta hurt.
     
  10. GregGry

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    I have learned alot about things in general, and if I wanted to watch a movie for factual representation I would watch discovery/history channel and not movies. Then again thats mostly what I watch, and they don't even get things right sometimes :D
     
  11. Hungry Seagull

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    Occasionally I watch the Military Channel over Satellite and I hang onto every little thing soaking it all in...

    at the same time hammering the Show for revealing secrets to our enemies.

    Cannot have it all.
     
  12. David E

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    You apparently are unaware of the thread about this very thing in Strategy and Tactics !

    It's amazing how many folks carry chamber empty, citing such things as "spontaneous discharge" concerns, etc.
     
  13. brandnew

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    Your point being that bad guys chasing people are concerned with firearm safety? =)
     
  14. HK G3

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    That's nothing. I specifically recall watching one Sci-Fi original where someone was using a bolt-action rifle (believe it was supposed to be a 1903, but I wasn't positive) as a full-auto rifle. The actor feigning recoil was also grossly out of synch with the CGI muzzle flashes. :scrutiny:
     
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    I don't demand realism in movie gunfights, I just want the illusion of realism.

    For example, the gunfight at the end of Open Range felt realistic, but it clearly wasn't, what with the endless ammo of Costner's SAA and the massive knockdown power of a shotgun, etc.
     
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    ''Anyone see Appaloosa? The gunfights in that were excellent. Quick and deadly...''
    yes I did,and I now put it right up there with the two best movies of all time...Outlaw Josie Wales,and Ride With The Devil!
     
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    Not all movies have it bad though, this scene from Collateral is excellent, and appears to be pretty realistic.
     
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    I watch the movie for the movie and don't really worry about it.
    Sure, if there is some great handling, as in Thief, Way of the Gun, Heat, Collateral....I appreciate it.

    Return of the Pink Panther I watched again recently. Now we all know about the Rules of gun safety and all, still that movie is just funny.

    The Chief has a lighter that looks just like his real gun. You know he is going to mess up, you just know it.
    He does.
    I don't care what you say, getting the lighter and gun confused , is funny!

    *pink panther *
     
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    That whole scene was brilliant.
     
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    Ummm, you didn't do your homework. It isn't radar. It's "Dradis" which is a "radar"-like contraction for "DiRection, RAnge, DIStance." "Dradis." A presumably three-dimensional fix that would actually make sense in open space. There was never a discussion or "reveal" of the technology behind it, but that was the stated source of the word (it appears on the screens, as well as in the back story). It was one of their more credible "fake science" writing features. Wrong thing to pick upon.

    I am a strict technical viewer, but I give BG a high pass on weapons and terminology - they keep it close enough to our terminology (mostly US Navy) so we don't have to guess a lot, and adapt it just enough to make it semi-realistic. I find it works really well, and I'm a damn critical viewer.
     
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    Who Shot Roger Rabbit? Has some great gun stuff.

    ROFL

    I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way - Jessica Rabbit
     
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    Watched that last year. Great gun movie. Loved that long slide Colt. Love Jimmy Caan. The long slide was a Jim Hoag creation, btw. I have heard from many, and find credible to myself, the gun-fight in Open Range. A great gun movie I think. There was a critisim that
    but if you watch he reloads at a deliberate speed between each cylinder. Watch closely. I have the DVD and have quite a few times. One of the beauties of this movie is it exactly conformed to the way gunfights went according to winners like, oh, that guy in Dodge City, what's his name - Tombstone, too, oh, oh, yeah - Wyatt Earp. As he always insisted - "slow and deliberate" wins. And I've made the pilgrimage to Tombstone to check his work. I'm kind of a thorough guy like that.
     
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    "Manticore" is one of the worse. The main characters are part of a U.S. Infantry squad, but they ride around in what appears to be a BTR type vehicle and their rifles are really AKs with AR-15 look-alike parts bolted on.
     
  24. Gamera

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    ATW, you and me will get along just fine :)

    Some of my favorite scenes are from "Skeleton Man". Ok so besides the fact that there's a squad of elite and well-endowed special forces babes...

    -One of the girls looks trying to spot the enemy... her 1911 at the ready... but she's completely oblivious to the fact that the slide is locked back...

    -EVERY one of the l33t spec ops squad fires from the hip...

    -Apparently special forces units carry MP5s for mid to long range forest combat...

    -Guns routinely change into different guns. I blame this on the editor.

    So much more...
     
  25. Kind of Blued

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    As someone who is also afflicted with the disease (Yelling at the TV), I can highly recommend the film "Heat". :)

    It turns out there are actually quite a few firearms errors, but I didn't notice them really. Nevertheless, seeing Val Kilmer do a PROPER reload on an M16 Commando WHILE taking cover behind an vehicle is SWEET.

    "YEAH! Didjoo see 'im smack that bolt catch! This movie rules!"

    "Settle down honey. You're spilling the popcorn."
     
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