Stinkyshoe
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For a VX-II on an L1A1, what is the best way to adjust for elevation. I have heard of add on target turrets...do they work? What do you think?
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Add on Leupold target turrets...
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Not sure if I understand your question completely but I recently sent my 30+ year old Leupold Vari X II to Leupold because I was having trouble adjusting the eyepiece focus. After looking at the Leupold website "custom shop" I thought I would have them add target turrets while they had it. They rebuilt the scope and replaced the erector system which I did not know was having a problem. I shipped it to them and had it back within 7 days (that includes shipping time from Texas). I now have 1/4" click target turrets were as before I had 1/2" friction adjustments. The scope was rebuilt at no charge but the target turrets cost approx. $100.00. Great customer service.
As to the add-on target turrets like that sold by Stoney Point, IMO, not worth it.
I had purchased a set for a Leupold M8-4X on my Browning Buckmark Unlimited. Unless you scope is at (or close to) the middle of its total adjustment range, you might have some problems. Where your crosshairs are within the adjustment range of the scope depends on how far off in alignment your rings are with respect to the bore and the distance of your zero. The setup of my scope/gun was such that when zeroed at 50 yards, the elevation was towards one end of the elevation range.
Now the Stoney Point turrets have a limit to thier adjustments also.
When you make adjustments to your scope, you are essentially physically screwing up/down//left/right the crosshair (or more accurately, the section of the scope that contains the crosshair). The screw physically goes in and out of its threaded hole in the tower. When you screw on the SP turret, internally it has a limit to the amount of movement the piece that engages the slots of your scope's adjustment screw also. It does not have the same range your scope has internally. This is due to the fact that the cover that replaces your regular adjustment caps is fixed. If you are close to one end of your scope's adjustable range, the engaging piece can either not engage (if the slot of the screw is too far) or bind up (if the slot is too close) when you try to zero the scope. (I had the problem of binding up. Had a heck of a time getting it unbound too.)
In short, the SP type turrets limit your adjustable range and may not work if you scope's crosshair is not close to its physical center with respect to the scope's main tube.
I had purchased a set for a Leupold M8-4X on my Browning Buckmark Unlimited. Unless you scope is at (or close to) the middle of its total adjustment range, you might have some problems. Where your crosshairs are within the adjustment range of the scope depends on how far off in alignment your rings are with respect to the bore and the distance of your zero. The setup of my scope/gun was such that when zeroed at 50 yards, the elevation was towards one end of the elevation range.
Now the Stoney Point turrets have a limit to thier adjustments also.
When you make adjustments to your scope, you are essentially physically screwing up/down//left/right the crosshair (or more accurately, the section of the scope that contains the crosshair). The screw physically goes in and out of its threaded hole in the tower. When you screw on the SP turret, internally it has a limit to the amount of movement the piece that engages the slots of your scope's adjustment screw also. It does not have the same range your scope has internally. This is due to the fact that the cover that replaces your regular adjustment caps is fixed. If you are close to one end of your scope's adjustable range, the engaging piece can either not engage (if the slot of the screw is too far) or bind up (if the slot is too close) when you try to zero the scope. (I had the problem of binding up. Had a heck of a time getting it unbound too.)
In short, the SP type turrets limit your adjustable range and may not work if you scope's crosshair is not close to its physical center with respect to the scope's main tube.
Stinkyshoe
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Thanks for the help guys.
Are there such things as a low profile target turret that would keep it from sticking out so much? Does it make sense to have a mildot and Target turrets on an MBR?
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Are there such things as a low profile target turret that would keep it from sticking out so much? Does it make sense to have a mildot and Target turrets on an MBR?
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Ss
IMO, if you want turrets with finger adjustability in a low profile package, get a VX-III.
Some folks, like me, don't mind. I don't see myself going into a firefight any time soon (I'm a civilian) so using a gun that is built for battle isn't an issue for me. Whatever works for you.
Some folks, like me, don't mind. I don't see myself going into a firefight any time soon (I'm a civilian) so using a gun that is built for battle isn't an issue for me. Whatever works for you.
Peter M. Eick
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They seem to work well for me. Once set, I rarely change them though.
Jim Watson
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Agree with the others. Stoney Point knobs are really usable only over a narrow range of adjustment. I had a set that were absolutely no use on a rifle I was using for Long Range and had to go from 600 to 1000 yard settings. So I sent it back to Leupold for permanent knobs. They found the tube to be bent so they replaced the scope with the nearest current price and maginification and put knobs on IT. $112 including shipping.
Stinkyshoe
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The more and more I hear about Leupold, and the more I use their products I become mystified why I ignored them for so long. Good stuff guys...
Can the target turrets that come from Leupold have a target turret cover too. Do the target turrets stick out too far for a non-LRR scope?
Can the target turrets that come from Leupold have a target turret cover too. Do the target turrets stick out too far for a non-LRR scope?
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redneck2
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The is why I enjoy THR. I have a 6.5x20 VX III that doesn't adjust correctly. I'm going to have target turrets added while I get it rebuilt.
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this is why you buy good stuff instead of crap that you throw away.
Thanks to Jim Watson
this is why you buy good stuff instead of crap that you throw away.
The regular target/varmint turrets will stick up/out about ~1-1¼". They will have a metal cap that goes over them for protection and will need to be unscrewed to make adjustments. Leupold also offers the externally adjustable M1 and M3 turrets that don't have covers and have large knobs that can be adjusted even with thick gloves on. If you convert a non-target turret scope to one with, Premier or Leupold will just pull out the non-target parts and replace them. The base of the turret towers (the part that the caps screw onto) will remain. They will replace the low profile caps with the target caps.
Personally, I like the M1 turrets. No covers to unscrew/re-screw/possibly lose. Just make adjustments by grabbing the knob and turning.
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