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advice-flat latch j frame...refinish or not?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Guillermo, Nov 9, 2012.

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  1. Guillermo

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    I am a sucker...she needed saving
     
  2. Rail Driver

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    Well, it's obviously been carried and shot - it's not so much a collector as it is a shooter. If you want to have it refinished, go for it. If not... don't. Simple as that.

    If it were mine, I'd have it parkerized - I always liked the look of a parkerized revolver.
     
  3. Old Fuff

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    Relatively few serious collectors (the ones who have $$$) are interested in J-frame revolvers, and those that are want "like-new-in-box, with accessories and instruction booklet." Shooters for the most part don't know what a flat-latch is, and care less.

    When considering refinishing, consider the price you paid for the revolver, plus the total cost of getting it refinished (shipping, etc.). S&W finishing is generally very good, but afterwards you may keep it as a safe queen because you don't want it marked up. Ford's is good, but not fast, and I will remind you about a certain Diamondback that someone sat on for over a year or so.

    Stocks also need refinishing...

    The only place I see where the J-frame offers any advantages is pocket or ankle carry - which apparently you don't do.

    If I had it and was going to carry it I would leave it "as is" until I decided if I liked it enough to put more money into it. If I wasn't going to use it I would leave it as it is until I decided what the heck I was going to do with it. The last thing I would do is pay big-bucks to get a super refinish that put the total cost higher then I could get out of it, and then leave it in the back of the safe.

    And if you want to take a really big loss let me FITZ it, and then get the most expensive reblue available. :uhoh: :eek:
     
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    I would leave it as is. If you don't want a shooter then sell it as is to someone who does.
    If you refinish and add on the cost for a re-sale you won't make any more money than just selling it as is. (maybe even less)
     
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    Would it be possible to change the side plate to get rid of the numbers?
     
  6. Guillermo

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    it is scratched up everywhere


    Old Fuff,

    I do pocket carry in a jacket at times. But since it only gets cold in Austin 3 days every 3 years...
     
  7. Old Fuff

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    Refinishing won't make it any better for that purpose, and if it's jacket pocket carry, why not one of your Diamondback snubbies?

    Anyway, why not carry it around for a bit, and go out and shoot it, and then decide if you want to put more money into it for refinishing - and just how much?
     
  8. Guillermo

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    Yeah,

    I will probably let it sit.

    It was the puppy in the rain, looking in with big eyes...knowing I am a sucker. I figured any S&W from the 50s is worth two hundred bucks.

    Will shoot it and see how I like it before I decide.
     
  9. Old Fuff

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    In it's present condition it's worth more then you paid for it. If you go for a high-end reblue (plus refinishing the stocks) it will cost as much as you paid for the revolver and the total would likely be more then you could get if you sold the gun.

    On the other hand, if you decide you REALLY like it, the refinishing cost might be worth it, considering you've decided it's a "keeper."

    Or you could get a less expensive refinish, but then you'd be lucky to break even.

    There is no reason to hurry. Play with it for awhile and then decide.

    And while you're thinking I can do something with the trigger guard... :evil:
     
  10. Guillermo

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    ok Fuff,

    PM me your address...I will send it to you.

    That trigger guard is unsightly as the hammer spur
     
  11. PRM

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    LOL - I wasn't talking K VS J... How about Complete Restoration VS Beater.


    Don't know what you have in it - a good re-blue will cost you roughly $200-$250. Properly done, a flat latch will bring in the neighborhood of $400 - $450. Got to figure what you have in it to make a good decision.

    Lot of folks say a refinish destroys the value of a vintage gun. I don't necessarily agree with that - there are craftsman who can actually significantly increase the value of a gun. What is yours worth today??? On the other hand - Johnny Jack-Leg at the LGS with his super speed buffer can forever round edges and remove lettering. You will get what you pay for.
     
  12. Guillermo

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    PRM

    What I was saying is that my Diamondback snubby is my daily driver.

    I don't pocket carry so I have no need for a j-frame. Sadly, being a sucker...I saw an old Smith that needed love.
     
  13. PRM

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    I like the Colts myself. Got a 2nd and 3rd issue Detective Special and an ivory stocked Police Positive Special.

    Some days I feel like a Colt others a S&W...
     

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    Over the years I've had bunches of those, because I see a gun in the shape that one is in as an opportunity. However I only spent more money on those that gave me a reason. That little J-frame is - under the skin - a good one, but only for certain limited purposes. If you spend the extra money for no particular good purpose then you won't have it to spend on something else that, as it turns out, you like more. Use and carry it, and over time you'll decide. At this point if you change your mind you can get your money out of it, and let someone else that likes it better spend the money for a refinish. You have no obligation to save it, unless it fills a need you have, better then something else. The world is full of other neglected revolvers looking for a good home. You can't save them all.

    On the other hand if you do decide to have it referbished, do it for a good reason.
     
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    I'd get it parkerized and keep it in the glove compartment of my car.
     
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    This is pretty excellent advice
     
  18. Old Fuff

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    All of my advise is excellent - without exception... :cool:

    Of course there are times that the excellence is extra superior... ;)

    And then there are times ... :eek: :uhoh: :D
     
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    I would love to have a sound gun with a rough finish like that. I wouldn't do a thing to it except put it to work. Its a perfect truck gun just like it is.

    If you have found that the true love you first felt has turned out to be just puppy love send me a PM. I am not opposed to sloppy seconds. :neener:
     
  20. Guillermo

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    This would be sloppy 14ths

    What part of Texas do you live in?
     
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    I say refinish the old girl and show it off on the forum! :D

    I have a flat latch 36 (square butt) and just love it.
     
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    No one here is going to live long enough to realize any harm to the resale value by a good refinishing job.
    I say get it refinished or Ceracoated and put it back to work. Guns are tools meant to be used. Wear it out.
     
  23. PRM

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    Agree on that on. Although, there are exceptions - a Model 36 is not one.

    I've got a Perfected Model S&W that has been in the family for years. It was made in 1914. Mechanically its 100% with no rust or pits, perfect bore and chambers. Locks up tight as a bank vault. I had a real high end refinish done to it and for me its exceptional. I doubt seriously if collector value was harmed, before VS after conditions - it definitely was not NIB. We are not talking an ultra rare gun either... One last thought: If you will not part with it - then does it really have monetary value???

    The extent of the refinish is up to the individual. Kind of like chrome on a HD.
     
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    quite true
     
  25. Old Fuff

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    Yes and no.

    If one does indeed buy and keep something forever then the resale value becomes a moot point. But the question here is, does he want to invest more money in it - and if so how much.

    Should he choose to do so, then whatever money goes to fixing up this particular revolver is cash that can't be spent on something else that might be more desireable from his perspectives.

    The point I have been trying to make is that he should play with the new toy (that apparently has no functional problems) to see if it is indeed something he would keep and treasure forever. You need to determine that first, or at least should do so, before going to the next step.

    Having been there and done that, I have stung myself on a number of occasions when I did opt to do a full (and expensive) retoration, and then decide in hindsight that I didn't like it all that much after all.

    And yes, when I traded or sold I took a beating. :eek:
     
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