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Sounds like leaving the ego at home is a pretty universal suggestion. Works for me.

El Tejon - No La Bamba, eh? :) Anyway, I have a musette bag that use to hold my range stuff - if it's not big enough for the extra class gear I'll find something larger so it's all in one place. As for a mat, what I usually use at the range is a small but thick blanket - I rest my elbows on it while shooting prone and cover my rifle with it while not shooting. I'll have to check and see if the aforementioned bag will work as a rest with all the class gear in it.

bigjim - I'll definitely write up a class report and post it when I get back. I'm really looking forward to giving the M1 this kind of heavy workout.

pax - I already have my ammo cans marked, and I don't drink alcohol at all. Good idea about the little stuff - band-aids, earplugs, and such. I'll have to drop by a shop and get a gandful of such things.

cobb - Gotcha - I'll make sure to bring pllenty of food along.

Bix - I just got a half case of ammo (beyond what I'm taking to the class) just for that sort of extra practice.
 
leaving your ego at home is good advice no matter where you're going. however, it doesn't mean leaving common sense at home. I've gotten plenty of bad advice at schools. Many instructors (even and especially at the big name schools) are very opinionated about things outside their domain of competence, and they certainly bring their egos.

point being, keep an open mind, but don't feel bad about getting a second opinion
 
This is an article on the subject written by James Yeager of Tactical Response:

Get More From Your Training

By James Yeager

I would like to pass along some information that might make you tuition at your next class go further. This is directed toward firearms and tactical training but will most likely apply to other areas of Instruction as well. The motivation for this article is watching students go through the same evolution as I did and wishing they didn’t have to climb the same costly, time consuming, frustrating, ladder.

I remember my very first training class. It was very exciting and a little scary. Who were the other pistoleros? Would they laugh at me? Would they be safe? There were many things going through my mind as the class began.

I asked myself several times “Am I good enough to even take this course?†I know now that many first time students think that same thing prior to signing up. Many have even confided in me they had to work the courage up to even ask about taking the class. I have also found the opposite to be true in some cases. I have seen many people who think that professional training has nothing to offer them.

My first class, like many other students, held the highest amount of information I would ever take from one lesson. Why? Because shooting isn't too complex and after you get the fundamentals (sight alignment, sight picture, trigger control, and follow-though) and technique (Weaver, Isosceles, etc) there isn't a lot left. No matter how "high speed" a class is advertised as it is still applying all of those basic things you learned at the first class.

I have been instructing for a while now and I still take multiple each year classes to keep up with the current "high speed" techniques (I also enjoy training), which as I said, aren't that new or that high speed. Being an Instructor has made me a better student. I have learned from the other side what makes a class flow more smoothly. I am going to give you my opinions on what will make you learn more in a training environment and get the most for your money.

The Golden Rule is to have an OPEN MIND. Go to every class with the opinion you know nothing. Push all of your previous training to the side and do the class EXACTLY like the Instructor tells you. Even if the Instructor tells you to do something that is alien or never worked for you in the past. I was taught the isosceles stance four times before I realized it is the best for me. I now look back at all of the money I wasted on training before I learned this concept. If you can’t honestly receive instruction with an open mind save your money and stay home.

Another problem changing techniques in a class is the fact that your groups might open up as you perfect the new method. This is a natural thing but 99.9% of us won't do it because we don't want to look bad in front of the other Ninjas. So we keep on pluggin' away with our inferior methods. If you change the way you shoot you will most likely have a short period of feeling awkward about the new technique. Classes are not competitions. Stay with it a while before you give up on it. It just might pay off.

Nobody wants to take a basic level class. Everyone wants an "advanced" class. I hate to be the one who breaks it to you but they are all pretty much the same. No REALLY BIG difference in a basic and advanced class. Sure advanced classes are different but not too much. Take basic classes. They contain a lot of very good information. I have taken about 7 or 8 basic classes and I learned a lot from every single one of them. I have found that less than 1% of shooters have a firm grasp on shooting fundamentals. Don't turn your nose up at lower level classes.

If you think you know more than the Instructor keep your mouth shut. It is his class and if you want to teach start your own school. I did. What you shouldn't do is interrupt and correct him, it is disruptive to the entire class. If you have a valid point to make wait for a break in the lecture, he will want to hear it. Don't tutor other students. If you want to teach....

After you take a class you must practice the things you learned. Getting new skills at a class and practicing is kind of like buying a new car and making payments. After you make enough payments the car is yours. If you go to the range and "make payments" the new skills will be yours too. Skip a few payments and they get repossessed.

I have taken MANY classes with guys who take training all of the time. At the beginning of every class they have to be shown the basics of how to shoot and they slow the class down. Take time between classes and ingrain those new techniques. IDPA and IPSC are great places to build skill and confidence.

No matter how good your favorite school may be you have to train at different places. If your school tells you to never do "this" go find a school that says to always do it. If you favorite school teaches Weaver go find an Isosceles program. Go to as many different types of learning environments as possible. Go to schools run by ex-military, police, champion shooters and learn something from all the different outlooks to be well rounded.

Most schools sell more pistol classes than all others combined. Learn to use those long guns, hands, knives and other tools too. Many people will train handgun and nothing else. You always have your hands, you don’t always have your other weapons. You will find your tactical toolbox to be empty those times when you have no alternative but to fight your way to safety bare handed.

Show up for class on time and be prepared to stay. I have been to schools that you "trained" 5 hours out of the 8 and yet others where you where begging for a break. Besides your standard range gear take water (Camelbak is best), a snack, bug repellant, sunscreen, and weather appropriate clothing if training outside. Pack any needed medications in your bag. It is perfectly acceptable to call the school ahead of time and get advice on the needed gear for the class. Many times this can save you from buying too much gear or the wrong gear.

Get plenty of sleep, don’t get drunk the night before class, and come to learn with an open mind and you will get the most for your training dollar!
 
1) Notebook(s) and pens. Take notes, you're paying for the knowledge!

2) Camera (especially helpful to photograph shooting positions/techniques) that would be difficult to write down in a notebook.

3) If allowed, tape recorder to record lectures or notes. Clear with the instructor first.

4) After the class, get your instructor and classmate contact info (usually e-mails) so you can compare notes if you need to after the class.

5) Don't know if it was mentioned, but bring your cleaning kit and plan on contingency in case your bore cleaner/powder solvent gets confiscated by TSA (if you're flying).
 
That thing about the advanced classes is really good stuff. I have a sign hanging inside my locker at work: Excellence is the basics, mastered. The best shooter in the world is pretty much doing the same thing you learn in a basic class only he is doing it faster and with more skill. There are no secrets other than mastering the basics.
Or..... One shooting school I go to constantly talk about the three secrets. Sight aligment, sight picture, and trigger squeeze. In every class someone says; "those arn't secrets" to which they reply, if you arn't shooting good, they must be secrets to you.
 
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