Advice on knife for daughter

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by rperyam, May 20, 2022.

  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    62,767
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    They're not generally a good source of advice.
     
  2. borrowedtime69

    borrowedtime69 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Messages:
    618
    Location:
    Denver CO area
    Gerber MKII

    upload_2022-5-24_17-52-9.png

    She might be able to hide it on her equipment vest or on belt.

    Or... Benchmade SOCP. Can't get a picture to load. It's smaller, easier to hide. A little high priced but maybe worth it. Good small knife with finger ring for retention. If she gets her gun grabbed she can draw it quick and use it to get the guy off of her.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2022
  3. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,585
    Location:
    Atlanta
    The MKII is not an appropriate choice, being overly large, and with a double-edged blade. It is literally a combat knife.
     
    borrowedtime69 and Boattale like this.
  4. Speedo66

    Speedo66 Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Messages:
    9,389
    Location:
    Flatlandistan
    Weight is also a consideration, these things add up and have to be carried a full work day.

    I don't think a large knife is a good choice.
     
    JShirley likes this.
  5. Officers'Wife

    Officers'Wife Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,626
    Location:
    A long way from heaven and too close to Chicago
    redacted
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2022
    rperyam and Slamfire like this.
  6. FL-NC

    FL-NC Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    7,854
    Location:
    Fl panhandle
    I recommend a Spyderco endura with 1/2 serrations and wave feature. Thin and light, so easy to carry in multiple locations, quality design, capable of very sharp edge, fast to deploy with 1 hand, useful for every day tasks, easy for cutting things like a seat belt, and effective for extreme close range defense.
     
    sgt127, hso, Night Rider and 2 others like this.
  7. Night Rider

    Night Rider Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2022
    Messages:
    441
    So what did you get for her?
     
  8. sgt127

    sgt127 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2003
    Messages:
    1,753
  9. Officers'Wife

    Officers'Wife Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,626
    Location:
    A long way from heaven and too close to Chicago
    redacted
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2022
  10. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    62,767
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    That's your opinion based on just a book cover?
     
  11. sgt127

    sgt127 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2003
    Messages:
    1,753
    No. Sonny Barger of the Hells Angels claimed he carried one as did others. That’s why it was used on the cover.

    upload_2022-5-28_4-37-49.png

    Merely pointing out others believed it a worthwhile fighting knife. And, I would agree it’s not just a skinning/hunting knife. I own two. Am not a Hells Angel. I also own several ball peen hammers, another favorite of the bikers.

    Not good. Not bad. Just fact.
     

    Attached Files:

    Speedo66 likes this.
  12. rust collector
    • Contributing Member

    rust collector Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2004
    Messages:
    4,583
    Location:
    Pierre, SD USA
  13. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    62,767
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    There are plenty of purpose designed and built rescue knives to choose from.
     
    JShirley, bratch and sgt127 like this.
  14. Night Rider

    Night Rider Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2022
    Messages:
    441
    So will this

    20220222_131032.jpg
     
  15. Night Rider

    Night Rider Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2022
    Messages:
    441
    I wouldn't pick a very pointy knife in EMS because of the danger of injuring a patient in a fluid situation.

    I really wouldn't want anything with a sharp point around a patient ESPECIALLY not in a moving vehicle.

    I'd choose Trauma Shears over anything with that long of a point.

    I remember a review of The Buck 119 hunting knife in which the reviewer pointed out that with that long sweeping tip the user ran the risk of nicking the gut and dumping the intestinal contents (AKA Poop) into the body cavity and ruining the meat.

    I get the same impression from this knife. That tip is WAY too long to be using around a patient ESPECIALLY a moving patient
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2022
    Speedo66, sgt127 and hso like this.
  16. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    62,767
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    Sure, that's what I think of with a Sharpfinger. Many deer dressed with them by many people and many people wounded and killed with them. Part of the reason being they were inexpensive, minimalist, reasonably made, and could take a heck of an edge.

    As an old whitewater boater and wilderness first responder I wouldn't use it where I had to be concerned at all about nicking/puncturing someone being rescued (or self rescuing) because of that "stabby" point, but I wouldn't throw any shade at it as a weapon.

    Another easily overlooked rescue knife that I have experience with is the CRKT Bearclaw E.R. I sold a bunch of those to National Guard and EMS folks when the knives first came out. The TANG helo guys wanted them to cut ropes free in a hurry when they were dropping DEA and state drug taskforce guys on rappelling lines that got tangled in trees and the aircraft was bucking. The EMS guys wanted them because they had to use a blunt tipped knife.

    Not to be overlooked is Victorinox -
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2022
    Night Rider and sgt127 like this.
  17. sgt127

    sgt127 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2003
    Messages:
    1,753
    rperyam and hso like this.
  18. Night Rider

    Night Rider Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2022
    Messages:
    441
    So, what did you get?
     
  19. rperyam

    rperyam Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2014
    Messages:
    108
    I gave her one of my Kershaw Leeks to start with. I also gave her two small Surefire flashlights to try. We are exploring other options. Thanks for all of the suggestions and ideas.
     
  20. borrowedtime69

    borrowedtime69 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Messages:
    618
    Location:
    Denver CO area
    I liked your post and completely get what youre saying. the following is done with respect to you and is in no way intended as an argument or saying im right, youre wrong. i think, in fact, you are correct. for normal times before everything went to ****.

    in this day and age, law enforcement in the US is now become a "Combat" situation. I have 2 relatives that were or still are LEO's and i want them to have the best. if not a large dagger, then another good solid sheath knife, perhaps an Esee 5 in black to blend in with the gear..

    Peace on you and yours! :D
     
    rperyam likes this.
  21. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,585
    Location:
    Atlanta
    While I hear what you're saying, the liability in carrying a 6" bladed combat knife far outweighs any potential value. I took some flack from my squad for my ~5ish bladed knife I carried on my first deployment- and I was an infantryman in a combat zone! (I used that knife several times during fire missions, incidentally.) The officer can expect ridicule and loss of respect at best if she carries that MKII.

    A small "get off me" knife (ARK, TDI) meant to make someone let go of the officer or her weapon, AND a rescue hook or knife would be the optimal solution.

    John
     
  22. 460Shooter

    460Shooter Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Messages:
    13,126
    My mind went here first regardless of all the stuff above.

    upload_2022-6-7_9-32-47.png

    Or at least to some sort of similar setup. Strap cutter, serated blade for other needs, and a plain edge for cleaner cuts.

    But honestly my mind goes to the need for two knives if she wants something geared more towards "Get the hell off me!". Maybe a Yojimbo. Easy to deploy, and my Yojumbo came scary scary sharp.

    upload_2022-6-7_9-36-1.png

    However there are plenty of knives that would work in a struggle, including the first one I posted.

    I guess I'm thinking mostly utility, but having a defensive tool is always good.

    To me the easy answer is a Hogue Deka in Magnacut. Good all purpose blade shape and affordable.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2022
    JShirley likes this.
  23. 460Shooter

    460Shooter Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Messages:
    13,126
    upload_2022-6-7_9-43-26.png
     
  24. EmGeeGeorge

    EmGeeGeorge Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2005
    Messages:
    788
    You’re in the PNW correct?

    this is a good class for pocket folder self defense-

    https://www.insightstraining.com/view_course.asp?courseID=5

    I always found for folders the Spyderco Delica is great. The Spyderco wave models are handy too.

    …as for last ditch self defense hopefully a backup pistol will be part of her repertoire once she gets into full patrol status. One issue with “tactical fixed blades” is they’re (more) likely to be available to be grabbed by the wrong person in close quarters situations. Unless they’re concealed or set up in a way to facilitate retention.
     
    JShirley likes this.
  25. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,585
    Location:
    Atlanta
    That's a valid point. One of the advantages to several of the knives suggested, like the TDI, is that not only does it avoid the rookie mistake of appearing to carry unsuitable gear, they also tend to be very low observability. It's easy to not understand that you're viewing a knife- there's even a version with a bent "banana" grip!
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice