Affordable 22LR (Lowest shipped pricing)

blackd24 said:
My local Walmart is selling federal automatch for $21.16 per 325 round pack. Limit 3. I’ve gone a few times and it’s always been on the shelf.
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i recently tried a box of this $21 federal automatch 22lr from walmart. sad to say, it was junk in a semiauto pistol, maybe 50% malfunctioned in my ruger sr22. so much for the automatch name... it ran ok in a ruger lcr 22lr revolver.
 
jstert said:
i recently tried a box of this $21 federal automatch 22lr from walmart. sad to say, it was junk in a semiauto pistol, maybe 50% malfunctioned in my ruger sr22. so much for the automatch name... it ran ok in a ruger lcr 22lr revolver.
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i have used it in a g44, m&p15-22, ruger 10/22, savage 64 and a henry. All have been flawless. Dozens of boxes shot. And only have a couple dead primers. Almost 25k has been thru my g44. No issues. I am sorry you had bad luck. I would suggest buying another box or 2.
 
Robbins290 said:
i have used it in a g44, m&p15-22, ruger 10/22, savage 64 and a henry. All have been flawless. Dozens of boxes shot. And only have a couple dead primers. Almost 25k has been thru my g44. No issues. I am sorry you had bad luck. I would suggest buying another box or 2.
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hi, is your federal automatch 22lr recent or old? i have some old automatch in my stash and i cannot recall it being a problem. i’m not so picky but this particular box was about the worst 22lr ammo i’ve had in my life. i saved the empty box and receipt to send in to federal... maybe a bad production run?

has anyone ever given feedback to an ammo producer? i’ve never done so. best method?
 
jstert said:
hi, is your federal automatch 22lr recent or old? i have some old automatch in my stash and i cannot recall it being a problem. i’m not so picky but this particular box was about the worst 22lr ammo i’ve had in my life. i saved the empty box and receipt to send in to federal... maybe a bad production run?

has anyone ever given feedback to an ammo producer? i’ve never done so. best method?
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its current ammo. All bought in the last year. I have never given feed back. So i am not sure hoe to do it
 
Robbins290 said:
jstert said:
recently ... federal automatch ... it was junk in a semiauto pistol, maybe 50% malfunctioned in my ruger sr22.
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Almost 25k has been thru my g44. No issues. I am sorry you had bad luck. I would suggest buying another box or 2.
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That's surprising as well. During my recent 11,000+ round testing in 10/22 and T/CR22, AutoMatch has been reliable using 2019 vintage lots.
Robbins290 said:
jstert said:
is your federal automatch 22lr recent or old? i have some old automatch in my stash and i cannot recall it being a problem.
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its current ammo. All bought in the last year.
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I recently bought some AutoMatch and it continues to be 100% reliable in 10/22 and T/CR22. I could test it in pistol on my next range trip.

Scout21 said:
Do you think that the new CCI Standard grouped better than the old CCI Standard because it's more fresh?
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I am planning to shoot more 50/100 yard groups for accuracy in continuing my ammunition comparison so will update whether new lot of CCI Standard Velocity Target is producing smaller groups compared to old lots - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-5#post-12325243

Some members recently commented new lots of CCI SV were not as reliable or accurate as old lots but in my limited testing with new lot, CCI SV produced similar accuracy of around 1/2" groups at 50 yards and reliably cycled the bolts, even slide of my Gen3 G22 with Advantage Arms 22LR slide kit which requires higher velocity ammunition (Norma Tac-22 stovepiped every round in comparison) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-5#post-12304852

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Scout21 said:
someone ... told me that while center-fire ammo lasts many decades, rimfire ammo only lasts about a decade or so. I thought it was BS then and now, but your results are intriguing.
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I have shot (Along with many other THR members) 22LR ammunition that were decades old and most of them went bang. During my 40,000+ round shooting/testing past several years started with ammunition old as 15-20 years old (CCI SV, CCI Blazer mostly) and accuracy along with reliability of bolt cycling were good.

What we may be seeing is the findings from "Myth busting ... no dud/why dud" thread where 22LR ammunition leaves factory with priming compound in the rim but vibration/shock during transport/handling of boxes may crumble priming compound away from the rim to cause less reliability of priming compound ignition or duds as pulling bullets from dud rounds show priming compound mixed in with powder charge - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/myth-busting-22lr-no-dud-why-dud-thread.893062/
 
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UPDATE: LAX Ammo offering $4.99 flat rate shipping on $300+ orders - https://www.laxammo.com/rimfire/22-lr-ammo?stock=1
 
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UPDATE: Optics Planet offering 8% off and free shipping with discount code 8DAD expires tonight (6/20/22) - https://www.opticsplanet.com/mkt-sw-father-s-day-sitewide061622.html?_iv_availability=in-stock

LAX Ammo offering $4.99 flat rate shipping on $300+ orders - https://www.laxammo.com/rimfire/22-lr-ammo?stock=1


NOTE: While I have been focusing on less than $50/500 "affordable" cost basis, posting Super X as it normally costs way more than $60/500.

 
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blackd24 said:
My local Walmart is selling federal automatch for $21.16 per 325 round pack. Limit 3. I’ve gone a few times and it’s always been on the shelf.
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swung by walmart yesterday and bought some more 22lr. there was a lot of stock with fed automatch 325. cci sv 50 rd boxes, winchester. there were 2 full shelves of the fed automatch. i bought my allowed 3 boxes for $21.16. my lgs had the same boxes on their shelves that same day at $34 plus.
 
Just noticed today that my local Walmart bumped up the CCI Standard price from 4.83 to $5.20-something.

It sucks, I was hoping that with excess demand subsiding prices would come down more than they have, but instead it seems that prices are inching up higher and higher ever so slowly.

I'm sure it's inflation
 
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Scout21 said:
Just noticed today that my local Walmart bumped up the CCI Standard price from 4.83 to $5.20-something.
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saw same thing at my nearest wm now. no more 500 round bricks of cci sv at $25ish. odd thing is that cci minimag was only $11.60/100, making them a more compelling buy than cc sv at $10.40/100.
 
Have you tried out that Winchester Super X I saw up thread? I see it all the time at the store and was wondering how it compared especially with the higher price.
 
BlankRow said:
Have you tried out that Winchester Super X I saw up thread? I see it all the time at the store and was wondering how it compared especially with the higher price.
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I just returned from visit with my sister's family in Texas and catching up A LOT of "honey do list" of chores (Already mowed our acreage 4 times ... dang rain :p).

Yes, I am definitely preparing to do another range trip to start another 50/100 yard 22LR comparison (This time with accurized 10/22 with reduced flyers due to improved trigger/bolt/20 MOA scope rail) with about 25 different brands/weights/lots of ammunition - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-5#post-12325243

Since previous lots of Winchester ammo did not do well accuracywise, I want to give Winchester another thorough testing. I was not able to locate new lot of M22 hence why I grabbed a box of Super X even though it was around $60/500 pricing (That's more than MiniMag and match ammo range). :eek:

Ammunition that produce smaller groups at 50 yards will be tested at 100 yards and maybe I will even shoot a few targets for the "Rimfire Prove It ..." thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rimfire-prove-it-reboot.906412/
 
UPDATE: Looks like we broke the $40/500 pricing barrier and falling down. :thumbup:
 
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Recently did an ammo test in a Savage MK2.
Federal Auto match shot better than SK, CCI mini mags and SV. It's only equal was Eley.
Anything else that was bulk loose pack shot much larger groups (looking at you Winchester)
For the price right now and the excellent accuracy I know what I'm spending my money on. This was just out of my rifle of course. Only 1 ten shot group from each type of ammo. Probably shoots terrible from your rifle/pistol. Please don't buy it... especially if your in the Colorado area.
 
Caplock said:
Recently did an ammo test in a Savage MK2 ... Federal Auto match shot better than SK, CCI mini mags and SV. It's only equal was Eley.

Anything else that was bulk loose pack shot much larger groups (looking at you Winchester)
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Thank you for update on current lot testing and interesting results as for my rifles (10/22 and T/CR22), CCI SV/Blazer have always produced smaller groups than Federal AM.

Of course, I found some 22LR rifles like 10/22 can be very selective/sensitive to ammunition type so group size obtained could vary depending on rifles/barrels.

I do have a new lot box of Federal AM along with CCI SV, Norma Tac-22 and other brand/weight ammunition (10 total new lots) so will be conducting comparison testing soon (BTW, new lot box of CCI SV produced around 1/2" groups at 50 yards as it has in the past along with CCI Blazer) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-5#post-12325243
 
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Repost from another thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...out-of-the-market.907328/page-2#post-12336306

Scout21 said:
I know it's impossible to answer with any certainty, but ... What do you think the bottom will be?

... crossing my fingers for $25/500.
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brewer12345 said:
I'd be surprised to see 22 much [below] 30/brick in the next year or two.
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During the last shortage of 2013-2019, we had similar questions factoring inflation and material cost increase.

By August 2017 when 22LR pricing fell to $30/500, I thought we had reached the bottom and started this tracking thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ammo-for-sale-under-30-for-500-rounds.825048/

Then by June 2019 22LR pricing fell below $20/500 and I started $15-$20/500 shipped thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/22lr-for-less-than-15-20-500-shipped.853059/

With current shortage cycle, many members thought/claimed $50/500 was the new bottom factoring Covid/inflation/material cost/supply chain issues and urged others to stock up while I suggested to wait unless you had to buy. Well, we just broke through below $40/500 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-6#post-12335793

And my sentiment is that 22LR prices hovering slightly above $40/500 shipped may have been protracted by those who were buying/stocking up thinking this is the new bottom yet we are starting to see signs of pricing falling further (CCI SV for $3.79/50 and Browning for $3.77/50 are good indicators).

As news of 22LR pricing below $40/500 spreads with Walmart continuing to sell Federal AutoMatch for $21/325 ($33/500) now going on for some time now, people may stop buying at higher $40/500+ pricing which will result in vendors lowering prices below $40/500 to move inventory which will result in prices falling towards $30/500 likely with open market competition.

How low will 22LR prices fall for current shortage cycle? That depends on what current wholesale production cost is and how much profit margins are added by the vendors. If 22LR buying demand falls (And I believe it will short-term), then vendors will continue to lower their profit margins to move inventory to extract capital for additional inventory purchase at lower cost. If buying demand falls significantly, we could see significant price drop within a short period of time towards $30/500.

Can we go down to $30/500 this time around? With last shortage, I was surprised when we fell below $30/500 then shocked as prices fell down to $15-$20/500. I think many are surprised we went below $40/500 but Walmart is ALREADY AT $33/500 with Federal AutoMatch ... Yes, think about that and let that sink in that Walmart is selling Federal AM for $21/325 and making profit. ;)

So I think $30/500 is the new bottom barrier I will be monitoring and would restock if prices fell below $30/500 or around there if bottom forms there.

And if prices don't fall below $30/500? We will find out in time and I would restock at lowest pricing I see.
berettaprofessor said:
Prices are coming down.
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Yes, for the moment, 22LR price trend is falling.
 
LiveLife said:
Repost from another thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...out-of-the-market.907328/page-2#post-12336306



During the last shortage of 2013-2019, we had similar questions factoring inflation and material cost increase.

By August 2017 when 22LR pricing fell to $30/500, I thought we had reached the bottom and started this tracking thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ammo-for-sale-under-30-for-500-rounds.825048/

Then by June 2019 22LR pricing fell below $20/500 and I started $15-$20/500 shipped thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/22lr-for-less-than-15-20-500-shipped.853059/

With current shortage cycle, many members thought/claimed $50/500 was the new bottom factoring Covid/inflation/material cost/supply chain issues and urged others to stock up while I suggested to wait unless you had to buy. Well, we just broke through below $40/500 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-6#post-12335793

And my sentiment is that 22LR prices hovering slightly above $40/500 shipped may have been protracted by those who were buying/stocking up thinking this is the new bottom yet we are starting to see signs of pricing falling further (CCI SV for $3.79/50 and Browning for $3.77/50 are good indicators).

As news of 22LR pricing below $40/500 spreads with Walmart continuing to sell Federal AutoMatch for $21/325 ($33/500) now going on for some time now, people may stop buying at higher $40/500+ pricing which will result in vendors lowering prices below $40/500 to move inventory which will result in prices falling towards $30/500 likely with open market competition.

How low will 22LR prices fall for current shortage cycle? That depends on what current wholesale production cost is and how much profit margins are added by the vendors. If 22LR buying demand falls (And I believe it will short-term), then vendors will continue to lower their profit margins to move inventory to extract capital for additional inventory purchase at lower cost. If buying demand falls significantly, we could see significant price drop within a short period of time towards $30/500.

Can we go down to $30/500 this time around? With last shortage, I was surprised when we fell below $30/500 then shocked as prices fell down to $15-$20/500. I think many are surprised we went below $40/500 but Walmart is ALREADY AT $33/500 with Federal AutoMatch ... Yes, think about that and let that sink in that Walmart is selling Federal AM for $21/325 and making profit. ;)

So I think $30/500 is the new bottom barrier I will be monitoring and would restock if prices fell below $30/500 or around there if bottom forms there.

And if prices don't fall below $30/500? We will find out in time and I would restock at lowest pricing I see.

Yes, for the moment, 22LR price trend is falling.
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I watched the same trends you did. Econ 101 says that when prices fall manufacturers will keep producing as long as they at least cover their variable costs. In the previous price bottom that was apparently $15 to 20 a brick. Since then we have metal prices up, chemical (powder etc.) prices up, energy, labor, interest, etc. I have a hard time believing marginal costs are less than $25 to 30. I'd love to see it, but I think Walmart is close enough to the likely bottom that I don't mind buying at $33 a brick.

The days of that case of Armscor I bought delivered for $149 are over.
 
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jstert said:
i recently tried a box of this $21 federal automatch 22lr from walmart. sad to say, it was junk in a semiauto pistol, maybe 50% malfunctioned in my ruger sr22. so much for the automatch name... it ran ok in a ruger lcr 22lr revolver.
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Like others, new Automatch runs great in my .22’s from my Glock, Mk3, 10-22, Henry, and others.
 
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