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affordable .45-70 Double rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by guitarguy314, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. guitarguy314

    guitarguy314 Member

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    Hey guys!

    I was wondering if anyone had any idea about .45-70 double rifles.

    I'm not looking to shell out tens of thousands for a H&H (In my dreams), so does anyone know of any good double rifles currently in production that won't break the bank?

    Thanks!

    L
     
  2. JohnBT

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  3. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Senior Member

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    EEA imports one by Sabatti... the fancy one's about 6 grand... the case-hardened, unengraved .45-70 was more like 3 something... 24 in barrels, nice wood, best prices I've seen in a double... reviewed by Roy Huntington a couple years ago... he seemed to like it. still pricey.
     
  4. H&Hhunter

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    Beware of Sabatti rifles they have some serious issues. The primary one being that they try to regulate them by grinding out rifling at the crown. Cabelas has a huge return rate on these rifles for QC issues.

    Here is an all to common example of what I'm talking about. There is no excuse for this kind of shoddy crud. This a photo of a crown ground down from the Sabatti factory on a .450 NE. This rifle came out of the factory this way!!

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  5. H&Hhunter

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    So to answer the OP's question to get a functional reliable properly regulated light double you are looking at a minimum of about 5K. Sorry to be the buzz kill but that is the hard cold truth. Any cheaper than that and you are just pissing your money away on junk. You are money ahead to save up the extra couple of grand and get a real rifle.

    Look at a Chapuis UGEX in 9.3x74R that is about the cheapest, dependable, shootable, useable double rifle made.
     
  6. Texan Scott

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    Or... get a .45-70 lever action.
     
  7. H&Hhunter

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    Not nearly as mystical but probably one heck of a lot more useable for the average guy, those lever guns are..:D

    However there ain't no getting over desire sometimes! BTDT.
     
  8. Texan Scott

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    All I know is, 5k would about cover the cost of everything i could justify to the wife and find a place to put... I could have a LOT of nice, new, perfectly servicable guns for 5k....
     
  9. Prosser

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    Pedroseli, if you can find one. Under 2K.

    Also liked the Merkels, but they don't come in the caliber you are looking for.
     
  10. guitarguy314

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    Thanks guys!
    @ Texan Scott: .45-70 lever guns are nice, and fun to shoot besides, but like H&H said, not as mystical. I've always been a sucker for unusual large bore guns. XD

    Now if I could find someone to build a double lever action rifle. haha
     
  11. Dr.Rob

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    Cabela's used to sell a Pedersoli made copy of a Colt 1878 double rifle in .45/70.. while it looked attractive I don't know anyone that actually HAS one.

    Prices have gone way over 5k in recent years.
     
  12. Prosser

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    Are you talking about the external hammer model?
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    500 grains, @ 2150 fps.
    :what:

    Cheap double rifle stopper.
     
  13. paintballdude902

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    there was a remington pretty sure it was made by EAA
     
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  15. Prosser

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    There is a double for 715. on gun broker, in 45-70.
    By someone I've never heard of.

    Also a Pedroseli double for 2800 in .45-70 with external hammers.
     
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    Made by Baikal in Russia and it's a horribly regulated piece of junk. Save your money.
     
  18. joecil

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    I've never seen one with 45-70 Gov but have seen a filler piece to fit into a 20 ga and 12 ga shotgun. I personally just bought a Rossi Rio Grande at Bud's today for $437 + sales tax of 6% with 20" barrel, blued with scope rail. After cleaning the gun is very smooth, no blemish of any kind in the wood or machine marks on the gun. I was actually impressed with the fit and finish on this gun.
     
  19. WardenWolf

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    The Baikals are actually pretty nice, as I understand. They just need a little bit of tuning (as any side by side rifle does) to get the barrels to both hit the same spot.
     
  20. Dr.Rob

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    Yes prosser that's the one I meant. ;)
     
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    I've seen a few, and was tempted to buy one, but they look like they were finished with a grinder in a high school shop class. Atrocious quality, and well known for poor barrel regulation.
     
  22. HankB

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    I really like the balance of the Sabatti .45/70 that I hefted at Cabela's . . . but it seemed awfully stiff, had extractors only, and was in the company of several "refurbished" rifles in the rack.

    Being wary of a new rifle that has a large "refurbished" population already, and having been burned by being an early adopter of a new pistol (Kahr P9) that was a lemon, I decided to pass on the Sabatti until it's been around enough years to get some feedback in forums like this.

    H&H's picture of the "regulation" method the factory uses verified I made the right decision.
     
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    "regulate them by grinding out rifling at the crown"

    They do WHAT? Oh dear me, as my mother used to say. I've never even considered such a thing.

    John
     
  24. WardenWolf

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    The newer ones at least look nicer.
     
  25. Jim Watson

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    500 grains, @ 2150 fps.


    That is an awful lot out of a .45-70 econo-express, more than .458 Win Mag or .450 NE.
    Has it been cut to .45x3.25 or .450 NE?
     

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