Affordable AR15s to better support Second Amendment "Right to Keep and Bear Arms"

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  1. LiveLife

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    AR15s becoming more affordable (even cheaper than popular pistols) will allow more people to consider buying them to become gun owners and supporters of gun rights.

    As more people become owners with tens of millions being sold, AR15s will become more "common in use" like proliferation of modern forms of communication/free speech of email and texting. Likewise, as ruled in DC v Heller where modern types of firearm that was magazine fed semi-auto pistols, proliferation of AR15s is the modern magazine fed semi-auto versions of rifles.

    This thread is about these affordable AR15s so please refrain from detracting thread discussion by comparing them to more expensive, less affordable AR15s (Which deserve their own thread discussion).

    Thank you in advance.
     
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    Bear Creek has been killing it lately. AR 15s and AR 10s. Lowest prices I’ve seen in 20 years. Probably in the history of the platform, decent quality in my experience so far also.
     
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    Been really wanting to build an ar-10 the none standard parts have been keeping from one and cost.
     
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    AR 15s are already "common in use". The reason they are so cheap is that just about everyone that wants one has two already.
     
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    -I'm up to three of them, and I'm primarily interested in milsurps and antiques... .
     
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    Also, the present "run" on lower-cost, Russian-made ammo, which will no longer be imported for quite a while (if ever again) will result in some changes. A few countries might try to replace a bit of it, but this would require some time.

    The higher cost of 7.62x39 (could easily affect US-made ammo brands in a while: FUDDs, stay tuned) , .223 and especially 5.45x39 rifles began last summer, following the State Dept. announcement (most of you are familiar).

    The War on Ukraine is accelerating peoples' concern about future ammo costs, also for US-made 'range quality' ammo. "Ammoseek".

    >> This will push more people into buying US-made AR-15s, and not just in the .223 chambering.
    Some of this growing interest began last fall, when two Very popular brands of imported AKMs saw prices reduced from about $1,400 (Zastava ZPAP) to $1,000, and $1,800 (Polish WBP Fox) to about $1,400.

    This was quite evident with Gunbroker "Buy Now" prices. Not much imagination was required to see the cause.
     
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    Whenever someone starts buying AR15s, they are often warned that as soon as you start putting AR15s in gun safes, they proliferate at alarming rates. And as others notice the proliferation and help shoot them, they too start propagating proliferation of AR15s. :D

    Very good point. All of which will help us expand ownership of AR15s across diversity of owners.

    And while over the decades, various US manufacturing has steadily moved offshore, firearm manufacturing and shooting/reloading related manufacturing may be coming back to US which is a good thing for local and US economy. :thumbup:
     
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    Is owning a particular type of firearm a prerequisite for supporting the Second Amendment?
     
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    I took it as the more people that own ARs, the fewer that people will view them (the ARs) in a negative way.
     
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    I don’t own an ar. I’d like an A2 rifle. Im familiar with them from owning several previously.

    I don’t think the low cost of entry level ARs are really a factor in its acceptance as a normal firearm. What made it acceptable is Walmart selling them until recently. Everyone shops at Walmart. Now here, it’s academy and rural king.

    Moving them out of the gun store and into the box stores is what makes them widely accepted.
     
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    Yes, just as we no longer use paper "snail mail" and now use "modern" email, we should own "modern" magazine fed semi-auto firearms to keep up with the times. :)

    Yes, that's the "in common use" the courts and ultimately the US Supreme Court will apply to enforce/expand the Second Amendment protection just like they did for First Amendment in regards to modern forms of communication/free speech "in common use" for email, texting, etc.
     
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    And consumers stopped shopping at malls and now buy their goods online.

    Same thing is happening for guns and related items with consumers buying them online.
     
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    I still think that the Ruger AR556 and the Smith and Wesson M&P15 are excellent entry level ARs. I have owned an AR556 for about 6 years put thousands of rounds through it and it has been rock solid.
     
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    Screenshot_20220302-131224_Chrome.jpg PSA always has specials, sales and deals going on. Complete ready to rock and roll, no bells or whistles ARs for under 500 with free shipping!

    Its changes daily, so keep an eye out!

    Those prices can't be beat, PSA is good quality even at those prices. Its more expensive to build one at those prices as well.
    https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-psa-pa-15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-5-56-nato-classic-ar-15-rifle-with-13-5-m-lok-rail-black.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20220301&utm_term=afternoon&utm_content=516447306B
     
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    I guess you ain’t been to town in a spell. Last time I was there it was a madhouse. Academy is busy, rural king is busy, Walmart is busy, the gun store is busy.

    The mall...nope, none of those stores are in the mall. Sears closed and the mall is dead.
     
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    Don’t forget to add $25 for the dealer transfer fee. Glad it’s only $25 here, they are doing us a favor according to them.
     
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    :DHa! We don't have "Rural King" here. The biggest farm and ranch supply stores here are "CAL Ranch" stores, and they too usually have pretty good guns and ammo selections. I guess it's kind of ironic that the "mall" was pretty much dead until one of the CAL Ranch stores moved to it.;)
    We were in there buying dog food and doggy vitamins just yesterday, and like you say, it was busy - especially back at the gun counter. They still didn't have any .410 shotgun ammo in stock though, darn it!
     
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    I kinda thought it was that, "Hell ya we're take your ARs!" comment that drew people's attention to the AR.
     
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    AR-15's are already "in common use." That ship has sailed.

    When it comes to people arming themselves with AR-15's, I don't think price is much of a factor. That is, if they feel the need to have one, for whatever reason, a price spread of $100 is not going to figure into their buying decision. A price spread might become a factor in subsequent, additional purchases. (In economics, this is called the "marginal propensity to consume," which is price-sensitive.) Becoming, potentially, a 2nd Amendment supporter would, then, depend on the initial, non-price-influenced, gun purchase. Or maybe the person is or becomes a 2nd Amendment supporter before the actual purchase.

    It can even be argued that paying a high price for a gun would give a person more of a vested interest in becoming a gun-rights supporter.
     
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    That comment was so stupid that even Beto himself is currently trying to walk it back.
     
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    If ars were on the shelf local for $350, my buddy might get one. He won’t at $600. But he’s into handguns and leverguns. He don’t buy online cause he’s an impulse buyer of guns. He sees it in the store and has to have it. He can resist online though because he thinks it through.
     
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    “BINGO!”
     
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