African Safari hunting video, ethical or not?

[RubenZ]

I don't care what people hunt legally. I just hate when its made into a big marketing crap and business. It ruins the sport imo.

Like the video of those idiots who did a horrible shot on 2 bucks fighting and they were stuck. The idiot BOW HUNTER made a crap shot and basically one of the Bucks just bled to death from the crap gut shot. Was not fun to watch. Poor thing.

 

[LarryS.]

Continuing from post #2.......

I received a written note from the attorney today and he readily admits to being a close personal friend of Mark's but said he's never even seen a .22 rifle in any of Mark's camps and that Mark is the real deal when it comes to his portrayal in the videos.

(Quoting the last 2 lines of the letter I received).....

"Mark is the real deal. He is a man. I suspect those who are not get some small degree of satisfaction in tarnishing his name and reputation.

I hope this helps."


I too, hope my minor research has added clarity to this discussion.....

 

[Harley Quinn]

jhunter,
You sound fair and level headed, riding bulls is one thing I have respect for, I have been around them and horse's quite a bit. Never rode a bull, mechanical ones for fun and not to high, was the closest I came to that sport

I have friends who are into hair curling sports and hate hunting, has nothing to do with fear, I'll tell you that.

Some are just not into the sport of killing an animal, I can understand that.

I just had a lamb slaughtered, my granddaughter looks at me, said she isn't eating "chicken" (name of the lamb) but she eats the real chicken

 

[jhunter]

I think its mainly the way that vid was set up. Just hit a nerve I guess. I agree with the little one, its hard to eat something you kind of get attached to. Thats why I could never have a cattle ranch. I would never want to send them to the slaughter house. I would run out of money buying feed. As I said, I am no PETA freak, or tree hugging hippie, I guess, as you said, I am not into the sport. If I had to kill a lion, tiger, hippo, or any other animal of this nature, I would do so if it were my only option to survive. Just would not go do it so I could mount one in the house for a good story.

 

[Debunk Brady]

I personally would not shoot anything that is anywhere close to any endangered list. I may have an opportunity to shoot a black bear this winter, and I have been thinking about whether or not I would even do that.

As for judgments about other people, it is hard for me to make them seeing as so many people make similar judgments against all gun owners. The video rubs me the wrong way, I will say that.

 

[Debunk Brady]

I made the previous post when I was half way through the video.

I will say this after seeing more of it, shooting any unwounded animal while it is laying down is unsportsmanlike.

 

[kaizer]

I watched the video that he has posted on his site, cannot seem to view the other one. Honestly, I have no intention to see it at this point, one was enough. AT the end of the video he puts a quote of his across the screen. It reads something like "die with honor"-mark. Basically, I have a problem with this guys interpretation of honor. I hunt, and I enjoy it, but to me this guy comes off as an ass.

 

[Art Eatman]

I dunno, Debunk. I don't guess I see what difference it makes. Clean kill is clean kill. If that's the way you feel, well, okay, fine. No problem. I just don't see a reason to feel that way.

Now, most of my hunting has been for deer. If I spot a really good buck laid up and sorta hiding, with his horns laid back along his neck and hoping I won't see him: My only option to do it your way would be to spook him out and then I have a 5th-gear overdrive running buck to worry with.

I'd much rather think, "Gotcha!" and bust his neck while he's lying there, all peaceful, still and quiet.

Edit-add: Come to think of it, that's exactly what happened with my last mule deer. I was walking along, crossed a rocky creek bottom, and as I came up the bank, horns rose from the grass some thirty yards in front. I looked through the scope, trying to figure him out. He raised his head some more and when I saw the size of his neck, it was, "Goddam, Bam!" He dressed out at 150, but if he'd grown up to fit his neck it would have been 200. I did feel a slight amount of guilt for using a rifle instead of a pistol, but all I had was the rifle. But he was some fine eating...

, Art

 

[H&Hhunter]

I hunt, and I enjoy it, but to me this guy comes off as an ass.

Kaizer,

That was my first impression of Mark Sullivan too after watching one of his videos for the first time. He definitely over does it at times.

 

[Debunk Brady]

I have since retracted my statement in the other thread, but it looks like it was deleted by a moderator. I retracted it because I have never hunted dangerous game.

I will say, however, that I personally would not shoot any unwounded animal on the North American continent if it was laying on its belly. It just rubs me the wrong way. Thats my personal preference, no judgments against anyone else.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Debunk,

That is fair enough.

I'll shoot them in there bed given the chance as long as I can get good shot placement. Sometimes when stuff is laying down it is tough to get the goods into the vitals.

 

[mbt2001]

hmmmm

I have tried to say this different ways, not sure if it will come out right, as it has not (yet) in my head anyway...

I believe that the problem that most of (you) have with this video is the video... By that I mean, the death metal back ground music drowning out all other video sounds. The scene after scene of animals I have not had the privilege to SEE get shot and (rightly or wrongly) THINK are endangered. Anyway, this is some compilation put together by someone that most likely doesn't have much to do with Mark Sullivan and posted on youtube. 15 year old kids are defining our argument by posting video's of what 15 year old kids think is cool.

Anyway, it is the format that rubs you the wrong way at first... Hell, I have wondered if anti's have put some of the those films together to try to swing the argument into the hyper-emotional.