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After seventeen years of opening our land to hunting

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Hangingrock, Jan 6, 2012.

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  1. Hangingrock

    Hangingrock Member

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    After seventeen years of opening our land to hunting by permission only we’ve regrettably decided to terminate hunting period. During that time we never charged a fee and were fair to all that requested permission to hunt.

    This year we had an incident which was nettlesome. I waited till deer season ended then reposted the land to no trespassing & no hunting.
     
  2. Rembrandt

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    Hope it works out for you.

    Have found that posting "No Hunting or Trespassing" signs might slow the problem down, but it won't stop it. Only tougher enforcement of the laws seems to make a difference....and trespassing isn't high on the DNR's agenda.

    Best to put up cameras to catch those that can't read.
     
  3. countertop

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    ok.

    I assume you want a reaction. But its tough to react. Its your property and your fit to do as you please. What exactly was the incident? And wouldn't the more appropriate course be to simply ban that individual and/or individuals?

    But its your land.
     
  4. HOOfan_1

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    I was checking out a Wildlife Management area for the first time this year and met a guy who said he was losing out on his hunting spot. He said the man who owned the land got mad when someone shot "the big buck".

    I am not an expert in deer management, but it seems to me, if he is "the big buck" then he has already spread his genes around over at least 3 or 4 years, and he will likely be dying of natural causes in another year or 2 anyway. I also don't know how you can expect someone to differentiate between the big buck with the 16 inch spread, and his 4 year old son or brother or cousin with the 14 inch spread. At the end of the day though, it is his land and if he wants to stop others from hunting on it, he doesn't really need a reason they agree with.
     
  5. Double Naught Spy

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    Right, so what happened? You had somebody spout off at you? Somebody left garbage behind? Gates left open? ND? Hunter wounded? Poaching?

    Nettlesome? My, but that is a $3 word, I believe.
     
  6. Flintknapper

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    I kinda likes it.

    I'll give $3.50.............;)


    O.K. we've been baited...now lets hear what the problem was.
     
  7. elkdomBC

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    the "Dedicated Morons, Lawbreakers and Trespassers" pay very LITTLE attention to signs,,,,,,,,,,


    but,,,, Your "NO TRESPASSING SIGNS" will Defiantly EXCLUDE those responsible/respectful persons that are/were, "on your side" ,,,,,,,,,
     
  8. Hangingrock

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    We had an incident with certain hunters arguing about their particular spot to hunt on our property. We thought and thought about resolving the issue and came to the conclusion to no longer allow hunting. I thought those that we allowed on the property would act responsibly. I’m disappointed because I thought I was a better judge of character.
     
  9. lobo9er

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    Your call your property. I would kick out those involved. was there a fist fight, name calling , guns drawn? Is this the 1st problem?
     
  10. Hangingrock

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    The problem could have been my expectations. I thought I was dealing with adults that could resolve the issue among themselves.

    It wasn’t to be so I talked with other property owners and their advice was mixed. One individual property owner I talked to said I could lease the property out for hunting and the group of leases would be responsible for the conduct of their group along with matters of liability.

    I contacted a lawyer on this subject and examined the pro and con. After giving it prolonged thought I opted to close the property to hunting.
     
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    We had a similar problem several years back. One guy was family, and decided that since blood is thicker than water, if he caused problems the other guy would get the boot. It worked several times. But in the end, all he accomplished was to get everyone thrown off for a few years. Sometimes it is the only thing that gets peoples attention.
     
  13. Kingcreek

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    "thier particular spot" wasn't really thiers.
    that's the part they forgot.
     
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    Always amazes me how some folks think that access to private land is a right an not a privilege and how they think a certain spot is "theirs" even tho someone else owns it. Human greed and inconsiderate acts by a few have cost the majority of folk any access at all to private land. Sorry you had a negative experience Hangingrock. Hope you get it sorted out.
     
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    That is why, at those times I allow hunting on my property, I only allow one hunter or one affiliated group of hunters. That way if one screws up, they are jointly and severally responsible and will not be allowed to hunt on my place again.

    Fortunately, in Ohio, one does not need to post no trespassing signs. If you are not on your own property, you must have written permission to hunt there. On my place, if they're not there with permission, law enforcement will be called.
     
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    Your right it wasn't thiers. It was theirs.:neener:
     
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    "No Trespassing" is the default in Texas, no signs necessary. If you're caught, it's a felony offense. Strait to state prison with ya. Now, you can't legally own a gun. :D That's the way it SHOULD be IMHO. I cannot STAND outlaw hunters. I know a few, soon shoot 'em as look at 'em, but it ain't legal, unfortunately. I do know one kid that was caught in the dunes on the national seashore on Padre Island. He was caught by a helicopter patrol. He did a year in TDC. They took his boat, his gun, his ATV, everything. Hope it was worth it. :rolleyes:

    They STILL try, though. I watched fence riders on the Powderhorn ranch hog tying a guy they ran down with hounds one day, were on the road, a hole cut in the fence. Guy didn't quite make it back to his truck. ROFL! I didn't stop to ask, but they looked like they were waiting on the game warden. :D And another one bites the dust......

    And, BTW, if you want to hunt someone's land here, you have to pay for the right and that means they have to want to lease it to you. You misbehave or violate the lease agreement, you pack it in and he keeps your money, you're out. That's the way it is. No BS down here with punks.

    I wonder how many have entered the King or the Kenedy and never came out? Years ago, they didn't bother with game wardens.
     
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    Land is special I’m just a temporary steward. There is a certain amount of pleasure/enjoyment and I thought others would or should benefit from. One of the satisfactions that I got was seeing youngsters get their first deer. That’s the bothersome aspect of terminating hunting on the property.

    I have grand children and one particular grand child that loves it here. My adult children are not interested in the land as they’ve become city dwellers.

    Enough of my idle thoughts maybe in time I may feel differently.
     
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    On both properties I hunt the owners require me to call the day before, (for a morning hunt) or a morning of, to ensure there isn't any conflict and there's only one hunter or group out at a time.
     
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    I hope you change your mind and find people that truely respect what you want to do. It's sad that a couple bad ones ruin the bunch.

    In the end, it's your land to do with as you please. Sorry you had to put up with such childish behavior.
     
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    :) !
     
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    I understand your problem, My family and I tried the nice way too! Only to have it taking as a sign of weakness, so we arrest those who trespass! We hated to do it but it works!
     
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    No offense, but I think some people seek land to be in control. I think it also sucks that hunting has become so industria
    lized. Enjoy your new year.
     
  24. olafhardtB

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    I often wonder why anybody feels that they can own land. It's permanent amd I just got here and soon I will leave. When I look at how much trouble landowners go to, a lot of them look like slaaves to the land, but I am generally thought of as a nut. When I try to read between the lines here I detect some remorse on your part, but if you think this was the right thing to do then do it. You have my sympathy for having to make this decision.
     
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    a few years ago, the Game Wardens ( we call them CO"s "conservation officers") set up a "sting" with a Ro-Bo Deer on private property just 75 yards off of a busy road,,,,,,,,,,

    not long after getting set up, a truck stops, 2 guys get out, lay on the hood and empty their rifle magazines into the " RO-BO Buck",,,,,, the Game wardens had video,shell casings, their own eye witness accounts,,,,,,,,

    the culprits ??? a Government Elected Member of Provincial Parliament and a very prominent Real-estate developer ,,,,,,,,,

    it takes ALL kinds,,,,,,,,,:cuss:
     
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