Age Limit to Enter Gun Store
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freakshow10mm
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This is the civilian world not the military. It is not the same thing nor even close to it so I don't know what you are trying to accomplish by bringing that up.
A Juvenile by defenition is a person under 18years of age and that does not apply to you.
A Juvenile (under 18years of age) may even sell guns at a gun shop with written permission from parents or legal guardian.
(B14) May a parent or guardian purchase firearms or ammunition as a gift for a juvenile (less than 18 years of age)? [Back]
Yes. However, possession of handguns by juveniles (less than 18 years of age) is generally unlawful. Juveniles generally may only receive and possess handguns with the written permission of a parent or guardian for limited purposes, e.g., employment, ranching, farming, target practice or hunting.
(F4) May an employee of a licensed dealer, such as a manager or clerk, who is under 21 years of age, sell handguns and ammunition suitable for use in handguns for the licensee? [Back]
Yes, if the employee is not a prohibited person (e.g., a felon). However, to sell handguns, a person less than 18 years of age must have the prior written consent of a parent or guardian and the written consent must be in the person’s possession at all times. Also, the parent or guardian giving the written consent may not be prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. Moreover, State law must not prohibit the juvenile from possessing the handguns or ammunition.
You must remember the key word is JUVENILE. Under the age of 18. Your original problem was age 21. You are 19 a free to fondle all the handguns you want. Unless state law superseeds federal law.
A Juvenile (under 18years of age) may even sell guns at a gun shop with written permission from parents or legal guardian.
(B14) May a parent or guardian purchase firearms or ammunition as a gift for a juvenile (less than 18 years of age)? [Back]
Yes. However, possession of handguns by juveniles (less than 18 years of age) is generally unlawful. Juveniles generally may only receive and possess handguns with the written permission of a parent or guardian for limited purposes, e.g., employment, ranching, farming, target practice or hunting.
(F4) May an employee of a licensed dealer, such as a manager or clerk, who is under 21 years of age, sell handguns and ammunition suitable for use in handguns for the licensee? [Back]
Yes, if the employee is not a prohibited person (e.g., a felon). However, to sell handguns, a person less than 18 years of age must have the prior written consent of a parent or guardian and the written consent must be in the person’s possession at all times. Also, the parent or guardian giving the written consent may not be prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. Moreover, State law must not prohibit the juvenile from possessing the handguns or ammunition.
You must remember the key word is JUVENILE. Under the age of 18. Your original problem was age 21. You are 19 a free to fondle all the handguns you want. Unless state law superseeds federal law.
there's a local range/shop that has a sign inside that says no unattented children under age 18 (sign used to say 21 but they changed that several years ago). Simply put, they don't want a bunch of unsupervised kids running around messing with the rifles on the rack or gunpowder, etc.
I've been going there since I was 16 and they never had any problems with me
I've been going there since I was 16 and they never had any problems with me
Funderb
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well thats just stupid. I know plenty or dumb##### over the age of 21.
One of the local gunshops has kids toys and a couple coloring books. He also wisely keeps anything dangerous where a munchkin can't get to it. Consequently he gets alot of business from being family friendly.
It's not a bad long term business model--those snot nosed kids grow up to be customers.
It's not a bad long term business model--those snot nosed kids grow up to be customers.
THE DARK KNIGHT
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You don't know the whole story. Don't go on the internet spouting garbage if you don't know the whole story. Maybe they've got droves of post-high school aged kids coming in and fondling all the pretty weapons they saw in Call of Duty 4 playing with them making noises showing off and having no intention of actually owning a firearm and wasting his time all day.
Officers'Wife
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My Dad and uncle dragged me to nearly every gun shop and shooting range in northern Indiana when I was growing up. Had either seen such a sign that store would have lost business much.
I'm always angered at how our nation allows good and responsible people serve our country yet continues to 'protect' society from their lack of judgment if they happen to be under 21.
I'm always angered at how our nation allows good and responsible people serve our country yet continues to 'protect' society from their lack of judgment if they happen to be under 21.
Raptorq7r13
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Then kick those bad/irresponsible people out and leave the responsible people alone. I know people at the age of 15 that I would fully trust with a firearm. I know people at the age of 30 who I wouldn't trust with a butter knife.
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jhco
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I always see kids in the store that I go to but usually they are with an adult, non the less I don't think their is an age limit atleast not in Florida
THE DARK KNIGHT
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And do what? Waste all day chasing dumb kids out of the store? Leave from helping out paying customers to tell some little rugrat to put the USP45 or the PS90 down? It's easier to just shut them all out of the store until they're old enough to behave. No point in making the good, paying customers have to listen to someone yelling on a megaphone.
And no I don't work in a gun store, I live about 3,000 miles from the OP.
Kudos to you. I also vote with my pocketbook. What you should have done is go inside and ask to speak to the owner or manager (or get the owners phone number if he wasn't there) and then offer a polite observation that you came to the store to spend money and then saw the sign. Don't assume anything, because like others have said, they may have a specific problem they're trying to solve. So, don't assume anything - ask the guy if the sign applies to you because you were coming in to make a lawful purchase. He may say "shoot, we've got a bunch of kids from the high school coming over here. guess we need to change the sign to say 18." or he may say he doesn't like folks under 21. either way, you'll give him an opportunity to explain his reason to you. You can then make the call to buy or walk - and if you choose to walk you should tell him you don't agree with his reason and that's why you're spending money with his competition.
If I choose to vote with my pocketbook, I do generally try to let the guy that owns the place know about it.
+1 to Dave Beal, but now that I think of it if I hold it it's mine does sound good.
When my daughter was 8 she tried to hold and test pull lenght on a few .22 in some stores, no issues.
To the OP there is no law, just a business policy. They're weighing 1 good purchase to a bunch of knuckle heads or worse a TV film crew documenting how someone under 21 could....
When my daughter was 8 she tried to hold and test pull lenght on a few .22 in some stores, no issues.
To the OP there is no law, just a business policy. They're weighing 1 good purchase to a bunch of knuckle heads or worse a TV film crew documenting how someone under 21 could....
dullh
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So far, I have not been in a gun shop that has an age limit. Around here a 5 year old can go in a gun shop, but you have to be 18 to buy long guns and 21 to buy handguns. There is no age limit on powder, primers, or anything else in there that's not an actual firearm...although I don't see alot of teenagers buying reloading supplies.
I guess some gun shops want to act like casinos and topless bars. Whatever.
I guess some gun shops want to act like casinos and topless bars. Whatever.
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i went into a place 3days before i turned 18 and was told to "turn tail and leave" that it was "illegal" to be there without a parent oh well from what i heard their prices are horrible anyways
kirklandkie
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walk in that place and tell them that posting that sign is considered "interrupting interstate commerce", a business is not allowed to fabricate a rule which discriminates against age where state law says you only have to be 18.
the woman at our local hardware store wouldn't sell me ammunition when i was 18, i didn't know the law which says she can't do that at the time so i left..... and never went back. i can't respect people who fabricate laws
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the woman at our local hardware store wouldn't sell me ammunition when i was 18, i didn't know the law which says she can't do that at the time so i left..... and never went back. i can't respect people who fabricate laws
-kirk
Mr. Bojangles
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I feel that any business owner can make any rule he or she wants, so long as it is not illegal. Although it is legal for people under 21 to handle firearms in most circumstances, it is still well within the rights of the shop owner to refuse to allow individuals under 21 to enter his shop.
It is also our right as consumers to not spend our money at a place of business that offends us.
It is also our right as consumers to not spend our money at a place of business that offends us.
Raptorq7r13
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Amen. Let them do what they will I suppose. I just know all my gun owning friends under 21 and I will be spending all our money with the competition.
freakshow10mm
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Read the law again. They can only possess for certain circumstances. If it isn't specifically listed as being exempted (legal), then it's illegal. Inspecting a handgun is not specifically exempted so it's illegal. I don't agree with it but it's the way the law is.
Yes there is. Bullets and ammunition follow the same 18 long gun and 21 handgun rule that firearms do. An 18yo cannot buy pistol bullets legally from a business or manufacturer.
Funderb
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oh screw it.
its just dumb and we all know it.
its just dumb and we all know it.
Raptorq7r13
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There is an age limit on primers. I'm one of those teenagers who reloads. I've gotten most of my primers from private party, so I don't know for sure if the age limit is 18 or 21. I know cabela's says you have to be an 'adult.' I don't know if that means 18 or 21.
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