AIM Ishapore

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  1. Detachment Charlie

    Detachment Charlie Member

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    AIM Ishapore/Lee Enfield, .308
    About two weeks ago, I couldn’t resist any longer. I pulled-up the AIM website yanked out the old VISA card and plunked down $169 + $10 for hand-select. As usual, AIM came through without a hitch and the Ishapore Enfield arrived on schedule.
    Opening the box I was confronted by what I expected; something that had been “arsenaled” by drunk monkeys with barrels of cosmoline and really chap, thck black paint. Fugly, yes it was. But the bore was shiny and bright (after some Simple Green brake cleaner and CLP).
    Three days of stripping cosmo and paint with Simple Green (it took most of the pain off, as well as most f the cosmo, after baking inside a black plastic bag in the 95F Florida sunshine. MEK and a brass brush took care of any remaining paint and crude. An assortment of good screwdrivers is also a good idea.
    The stock was great. No cracks or repairs, much to my surprise. Not even the almost mandatory stock heal repair. The wood isn’t exactly “Presentation Grade,” but it’s not bad for an Old War Horse. About three coats of wipe-on finish rubbed-out to a finish that, I think, enhances an old battle rifle.
    Mine was built in 1965, according to the markings and is a true Ishapore A2, one of the first 50,000 made from what I read. It has the original 2,000 meter sights from the .303 design. The 2A1 has the correct (800m) sights for the .308. This rifle was not just a re-chmber from the .303 to the .308 (really, it’s a true 7.62 x 51 NATO chamber). This is important because it separates it from it’s SMLE ancestors in that this rifle was redesigned and built with new metallurgy and heat-treating specs from the original Brit designed .303. The 7.62 distinction is important because of chamber pressures.This weapon was designed to the NATO 42,000 c.u.p. standard pressure round. Commercial .308 ammo has a SAAMI spec of up to 62,00 c.u.p. – BIG difference, especially with my handsome face that close the peak pressure area.
    Off to the range with a load of Lithuanian surplus 7.62 (also from AIM) for a lttle bench-time. Results: not bad, but not great.
    Most of the problems reside with the nut behind the butt-stock. I haven’t regularly shot a serious caliber battle rifle since my abruptly ended love affair with the M14. That was in 1967. Recoil, aside (and with the semi-pistolgrip stock I ain’t bad at all. A pssy cat compared to the Mosin-Nagants I’ve fired!), my eyes sure ain’t what they used to be or will be. I’m having cataract surgery next week, so I really had no business trying to shoot these iron sights at all. But, at 50 yds. All 20 rounds were about 2” right of point of im, but strung vertically about 6”. I’ll blame my ancient eyes and the large coffee I drabk on the way to the range – real smart.
    Conclusion: I am very satisfied. I got to play with and semi-restore a great rifle of classic design that shoots a modern cartridge. Clean-up the rest of the piece and get my eyeballs peeled and I’ll be back with more info and better groups.
     
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  2. offthepaper

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    We need pics. :D
     
  3. Sistema1927

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    That paint was the original finish. I left mine on, and got a small bottle of matching car paint for touch ups.
     
  4. paintballdude902

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    the black wasnt the original

    the original was a type of parkerizing

    the black paint was used to protect it during storage
     
  5. m.p.driver

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    Bought one years ago when they were $69,full of grease,found out after cleaning and shooting,and beating the bolt back that it had a large pit in the chamber,got a Rhineland kit and converted it to .45,its a pleasure to go out and plink all afternoon with reloads
     
  6. Dave R

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    I think you've gotta give some credit to the not-so-fine sights. They're pretty coarse, and don't have the longer sight radius of other Enfields.

    I have an Ishy that has shot some 2MOA groups, but I must have the right target to make that happen. A bull the right size so I can "dot the i" very consistently. Without that, I just can't get a consistent sight picture, and the groups show it. I think the rifle cries for upgraded sights.
     
  7. Detachment Charlie

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    Here are the Pics

    All cleaned up and ready to go. I know that black paint was one of the original finishes. However, there were two types of black paint: Finish & Arsenal Storage. Mine still has a litgtle of the original black paint, some of the under phosphate coatiing, but more importantly is that it's a great old war horse.:D
    Here's the pics --
     

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  8. gezzer

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    The original finish was Black paint over parkerising, to bad you removed the arsenal finish.
     
  9. mukluk

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    Looks good.
     
  10. DMK

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    I can't see how they were functional with the black paint they had on them. Mine was put on so thick, the rear sight was no longer adjustable and you couldn't read the range markings.
     
  11. monsternav

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    These are not Holy Relics to be worshipped. If he wants to re-finish it, so be it.

    Anyway, his sounds like mine. That paint he took off was most definitetly not a "working" finish. It was gooped on so thick as to immobilize the rear sight and, in my case, the bolt.

    On mine the "original" stoving over gray park was still there in places. I left it as it appeared to be original to the gun. Mine does have the obligatory heel repair (among others), and a very crudely repaired mag. Works fine though.
     
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