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AK vs, SKS

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by stevereno1, Nov 7, 2007.

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  1. stevereno1

    stevereno1 Member

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    I believe that the 223 is a weak round, suited for prarie dogs. I want a defense rifle, and have been looking at the ak platform versus the sks(modified, of course) my budget will allow from $400-$700. I would not rule out a .308 autoloader, but they can get a bit pricey. Help!
     
  2. tnieto2004

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    I have a WASR 10 that has been flawless
     
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    If you want a modified SKS then you might as well buy an AK.

    So many people buy SKS's and then try to make them look like AK's when in actuality they end up with a less reliable SKS and still end up longing for an AK.

    Not only that they spend as much money on replacement "tacticool" parts to make it look like an AK that they might as well have bought one to begin with.

    If you want an SKS then buy one, if you want an AK then buy that. Best option is to just buy both and start with the one you really want most. For a budget of up to $700 you could easily get both with money left over to buy ammo and mags.

    For home defense an AK would be my choice over the SKS, maybe a WASR underfolder.

    Just my 2¢
     
  4. JHansenAK47

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    Don't waste money modifying an sks. You really need to check every hicap sks mag in your sks to see if they will even work right. PITA
    You can save a lot of money and have a better rifle with a AK.
    My advice is look for a used Vepr. Excellent rifles. They have thicker receivers and as a consequence shoot better. Made in Russia and have excellent finishs.
    The modified SKS is just a poor man's AK it doesn't do anything any better.
     
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    A SKS would stand up to a ban better than an AK. AKs are evil don't you know?
     
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    If you already own it then it is grandfathered. So why wouldn't you buy it before they ban it?
     
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    For that price you can get a Yugo, Vector, Lancaster or a DIY Saiga. All of them are decent AK's.

    Going the SKS route doesn't make as much sense. The SKS works best as an ultra low budget fighting rifle. For $350 you can get a Yugo SKS, stripper clips and a full case of ammo. You'll have a rifle that will do an adequate job of defending your castle in an emergency and enough ammo to become proficient with it. When you start modifying the SKS however the price goes up and the rifle doesn't really get any better. SKS's don't take optics well. If you add high cap mags they have these awkward duckbills on them and they are hard to change out. What's more, the majority of them are not reliable.
     
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    Get a WASR 10, an SKS, and a case of ammo - you'll have spent your $700.
     
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    If you get an SKS, just leave it original. It isnt worth the time, money, and frustration to try to make one into an AK-wannabe.

    You can get a Romanian WASR for around $350, so I'd start there.
     
  12. stevereno1

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    what's a wasr?
     
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    I had a nice sks with the 16" barrel, and the plastic stock, 30 round fixed mag, and sold it for $300 years ago. you say that I can get a quality ak-47 for $500? where?
     
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    If you don't like the parts you can upgrade into folding stocks, poly furniture, wood furniture and even triggers with a lot more options than an sks.
     
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    Actually .223 fmj has better terminal ballistics then 7.62x39 fmj to about 150 yards.
    But when it comes to SP the 7.62x39 is far more powerful.
    I load Barnuel Soft points but the cheap wolf SP will do a great job as well.
    Do your self a favor get an AK the sks is not up to par.

    Wasr are the bottom of the barrel but tend to work great I have shot a few and are almost as good as my $800 ak.
     
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    Another option would be a Ruger Mini-30. Around $430.00 at Wal-Mart. High capacity mags are readily available.
     
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    Ditto here.

    Agreed again, based on my experiance with 4 sks's I've owned and played with here and there to see what I could do with them.
     
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    I perfer to keep the SKS basically in the same shape. Just slap on a Tech-Sight rear peep sight, bed it and clean up the trigger and you have a really reliable, fairly accurate weapon, for not much of an investment. There are people who turned the SKS into a sub-moa shooting machine. Mine right now does closer to 2 moa, and sometimes a little better.

    I still like my Yugo M70 ak though. It's short and handy and easily tucked out of the way.
     
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    stevereno- A WASR is a Romanian variant of the AK rifle. They have been criticized for being cheap and poorly made, however mine only needed slight modifications before it performed fine. Rounds would not feed into the chamber from the magazine in mine, so I grinded down the bottom lip of the chamber, and now it feeds completely reliably. I've only put about 80 rounds through mine so far, but i've heard it may take a couple hundred before the rifle "loosens up." My first magazine would not cycle rounds, the bolt would stay open every shot. By the last few shots, it was cycling perfectly. Thats just how these guns are, need to be broken in.
     
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    Grandfathered???

    "If you already own it then it is grandfathered. So why wouldn't you buy it before they ban it?"


    Don't count on it. There have been numerous instances in which firearms were completely legal until a new law was passed. Then they suddenly became illegal. That type thing has happened before, and it could happen again.
     
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    Price of Mini-30?

    "Another option would be a Ruger Mini-30. Around $430.00 at Wal-Mart."

    I think that your price is WAY out of date. I checked at several Wal-Marts recently for a Mini-14 and they started at about $600. The Mini-30 was even more expensive.

    If you can buy a new one for $430, I suggest you jump on that deal.
     
  23. Agouti

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    Buy an SKS that takes AK mags from the factory.

    I didn't buy an SKS wanting an AK, I bought an SKS wanting something that I can actually hit stuff with. For the most part, the accuracy of an AK is quite poor. Death, Taxes, and the inaccuracy of the AK are all facts of life. Some people jog, take vitamins, and cheat the IRS. You can try this too. You can run but you can't hide. Maybe you can get the AK down to 2-3 MOA if you spend some crazy money modding it. But it will never catch up to that slight edge the SKS has on it in accuracy. Of course, the SKS is no tack driver either.

    Or you could simply buy an AK-74 and wonder why that is so much more accurate compared to an AK. Or maybe try and find a type 81. 1.78 inches or less at 100 yards, and takes 7.62x39. Good luck finding one anywhere around here though.
     
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    Why would you buy a mini 30/14 when a saiga is so much cheaper.... IMHO they're better too...

    I'd recommend a saiga .308... if you do allot of plinking the 7.62 soviet would be a better (cheaper) option.
     
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    The less you do to an SKS, the better. If you prefer the AK platform, get it. I'm really liking the Norinco "Paratroop" model. It's more accurate than any AK I've had and has better ergonomics.
     
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