Ak47 / ak74 which ak to buy?

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...or would 992r effect it?
It could...depends upon where the stock was made and what you replace it with.

If I wanted to add a very nice stock to a polish tantal ( If I buy ) do I need to worry about 992r if it is foriegn part? not US made?
Yes, you should replace it with US made parts (then you know you're alright)...not the other way around. If the stock is made exclusive of the US (likely, but I'm not sure) you can replace it with whatever you like.

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you gotta also how much cheaper 7.62 is? proper english please? I do not understand what you are saying? maybe you are saying you gotta know how much cheaper 7.62 is???????? I thought 5.45x39 is cheaper? spam cans $150 1080 rounds??? 1,000 wolf ammo $230ish??

also can someone answer a few of my questions please?

Heheh, didn't realize that I was missing words and had typos. But you got the gist of what i'm saying.

7.62 is significantly cheaper simply because more companies make it and at larger quantities which means competition, which means better value. Business 101.

So what I meant to say is that when your choosing 47 vs 74, then remember to consider the ammo prices and availability. Huge diff when it comes to availability at that. Can't find 5.45 easily in say Bass Pro, Cabelas, or Wally World (which is the cheapest, obviously) where it's most popular among avid shooters. Matter of fact, i'm not even sure Wal-mart sells 5.45.

Don't get too technical in terms of grammar on gun forums as you'll become more and more disappointed then if that's the case. This isn't a forum for the scholarly or academia; as long as you get their point, leave it be.

To get even, I can see grammatical errors on your part too. '......' is not even proper usage. There's only '...' & '....'. Didn't go to a university or college did you? If so, you probably got a C or a D in english composition?
 
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What's the difference between the two?

I know that may sound like a dumb question but they look the same to me.
 
i like the look of the bulgarian that jg sales is selling, might swap out the black synthetic for wood later but for 399$ i'll see what it's all about, one on the way now.... nodak spud receiver too...

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hornady does
I'll admit that I didn't realize that they were coming out with it...but it is "pending R&D" so it isn't out yet. That would make the decision a bit easier, but at least for now I would still remain cautious of purchasing a rifle that shoots 5.45x39mm.

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What's the difference between the two?

I know that may sound like a dumb question but they look the same to me.
No, it's not a dumb Q, skillet. There are no dumb questions when it comes to learning.

R u asking the diff btwn the two Hornady loads, or do I not get what u mean?

upon first glance, I think the first is nickle plated with perhaps better quality powder. The bullets appear to be the same: 60gr Vmax but the latter cartridge is just steel cased. Overall steel casing is cheaper among the various case materials. In addition, most ranges don't allow steel and aluminum cased cartridges like many of the Wolf stuff and CCI Blazer aluminum simply because of reloading difficulties w/ these materials, and the shooting range not being able to resell them to reloaders.

hope that helped :)
 
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http://www.tnguns.com/shop/index.php...oducts_id=1014

AK74 built on Bulgarian parts/barrel....$499
for the money you are getting alot.
Actually it's $399 shipped. There's a coupon code floating on AK forum in TGI section.



7.62 is significantly cheaper simply because more companies make it and at larger quantities which means competition, which means better value. Business 101.
New production ammo is about the same at $.20/round. ATG has brown bear 7.62 for $200/1,000 and silver bear 5.45 for $150/750.
Surplus 5.45 is significantly cheaper.
 
No, I was asking the difference between the AK74 and the AK47
There are other minor differences, but the main difference is the ammunition. AK47=7.62x39mm and AK74=5.45x39mm.

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hmm sorry i didnt realize the hornady loads hadnt come out yet i just remembered a guns and ammo review from last year stating that they were releasing them i figured by now it was out i apologize for not looking at the site more thoroughly

i can guess that since we are discussing the AK that it should be common knowledge we all meant 7.62x39
 
Well I've managed to make a horse's rear end out of myself, as in a previous post I referred to the Lancaster Arms AK74 I purchased as "perfectly functioning".
Technically, I guess that would be incorrect. While the rifle does feed and fire every time, many of the bullets come out of the barrel tumbling.

See my post here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=491989&page=4

I profusely apologize, and will now put myself out to pasture.



Jeffrey
 
Hey LOOK! I found 2 pennies right here in my opinion purse! lol.

Search for and find any of the SAR Romanian series.

SAR-1= 7.62x39
SAR-2= 5.45x39
SAR-3= 5.56x45

There are wholly built in Romania and while they aren't the best looking, some of them are not bad either, really depends on the stocks. Most are just plain, ugly wood with no grain. Every once in a while, you find one with some grain to it. Check out this SAR-1. Not a bad price.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160149143

I have an SAR-2 and it has never given me a day of trouble. I hear that is not the case with the WASR10. I guess the "rebuild" process to a new receiver, just wasn't done with quality or proper jigs and fixtures.

The Romanian SARs are very serviceable guns. I suspect at least the Romanians had some Russian advisers at some point helping them get their manufacturing set up, or at least they had competent people who stole the design and knew a little something about making guns.

This series does not come with any muzzle device, but you can retro fit with a new sight block and have a threaded end which will then take a flash suppressor or a muzzle break.

OR, if you can fin one of the Maadi imports at the intermediate stage. They have thumb-hole stocks and tack welded muzzle thread covers, but most have threaded barrels. These might also be had for about 600, maybe less. These are the 7.62x39 models. I do not believe Maadi ever made 5.45x39 models.

If you had the opportunity to shot one of 5.45x39 models, you would fall in love with it. No recoil at all. Easy, fast follow up shots. Small women have no problem shooting the rifle. The 7.62x39 is certainly not bad recoil, but compared to the 5.45, it is certainly more noticeable.

I think with the "home grown", you do have trouble finding a decent build until you get into the over 800 category. The come block countries have lower wages, so they can build them and sell them for American dollars at a lower price.

One other sage bit of advice. It is not a HUGE deal, but if you think you don't want to deal with corrosive ammo, buy an SAR-3 in .223. Read a little about cleaning up after corrosive ammo. Some people don't care for the extra work. At least with the .223, you can buy American ammo and not have to worry. DO NOT TRUST any Comm Block country ammo in any Soviet calibers. I trusted a box of 5.45x39 that claimed to be "non-corrosive" and it rusted the s*** out of a barrel. I treat ALL comm block calibers as though it was corrosive.

Say, I think that was a three pennies version of my advice! Hope it helps. Have fun and happy hunting!
 
How do the Lancaster AK's 47s/74 variants compared to the arsenal saigas? in terms of quality I mean.
 
How do the Lancaster AK's 47s/74 variants compared to the arsenal saigas? in terms of quality I mean.
WRT the Lancaster milled receiver version the quality is heavier. IMO there really isn't a better AK pattern rifle than a Saiga (converted in a garage by someone with basic metalworking skills or a company that specializes in conversions).

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WRT the Lancaster milled receiver version the quality is heavier. IMO there really isn't a better AK pattern rifle than a Saiga (converted in a garage by someone with basic metalworking skills or a company that specializes in conversions).

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Aren't Saigas incapable of accepting hi-cap magazines? I think, if i remember right, Saigas require cutting out parts of the bottom of the receiver to accept hi-cap mags

Please correct me if i'm wrong because i'm considering a Galil if this is the case.
 
Aren't Saigas incapable of accepting hi-cap magazines?
Yes and no...per 922r they cannot legally accept greater than a 10rnd magazine because it then becomes unsporting. To remedy this you need to replace several (typically 4+) parts to bring the official count (ATF only counts certain parts) down to 10 or less foreign made parts. You also need to install a bullet guide for cheap, reliable commie mags, but this is a simple and inexpensive addition. Saiga is about as good as an AK gets IMO.

The process you are referring to is the conversion of WASRs (most are pre-converted, or if older models have since been converted by a previous owner), where the magazine well is smaller than standard, requiring special 10rnd WASR magazines.

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