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Alaskan Holster!?!?!?!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Mainsail, Feb 11, 2007.

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  1. Mainsail

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    I went out this afternoon and bought the Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan in .44 Mag. Now the problem, I can’t find a holster! All I need is a decent paddle style holster to put the gun on my backpack belt but I cannot find even one.

    Any help?
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  2. Mainsail

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    Oh, by the way:

    Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan: $650
    Box of cartridges: $20
    Walking into the gun shop and walking out without an asinine waiting period: PRICELESS.
     
  3. RustyShackelford

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    Ruger .44magnum AK model for $619.00USD...

    I saw a online ad for a shop near me selling a new Ruger Alaskan .44magnum snub at around $619.00 USD, ;) . I'm thinking of buying a Ruger too. I'd get the barrel ported, convert it to DA only/no spur and get the entire weapon plated(Robar, APWcogan.com, Black-T,etc). I want to buy a new Ruger/CTC lasergrip for it too, www.crimsontrace.com . ;)

    For holsters check Kramer gunleather, www.miltsparks.com www.donhume.com www.mitchrosen.com among others.

    Rusty S

    PS: I may get the .454/.45LongColt model rather than the Ruger .44magnum/.44spl.

    :D
     
  4. Revolver Ocelot

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    the only holster I know of in production is a strongside?crossdraw holster made by dao, I don't see why that woyuldn't work for a backpack belt, I don't think anyone makes a paddle holster for it though at the moment.
     
  5. Mainsail

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    Thanks for the attempt, but nothing in any of those links would work, and the Don Hume line doesn’t seem to include anything at all for the Ruger Alaskan.

    The gun has been out for two years. Why is it so hard to find a holster?
     
  6. Mainsail

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    The problem I’m running in to is that all my backpacks use a quick-release buckle. It’s not like the belt that holds your pants up, there’s no ‘narrow’ end to feed through the loops on a holster.
     
  7. AStone

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    Mainsail,

    Try Simply Rugged.

    Jeff Quinn at Gun Blast likes their holster for the Alaskan.

    I don't own an Alaskan, and won't, but I'm looking hard at the Simply Rugged holsters for a .357 (which is next on my list). They get good reviews, and the prices are very reasonable.

    Nem
     
  8. Cosmoline

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    I've used these with heavy wheelguns:

    http://www.alaskasportsmanproducts.com/

    They're extremely tough and designed to allow for a fast draw without getting snagged on underbrush, caught in backpack straps, etc. They are ideal for long duration carry with heavy iron, and support the weight better than any other holster I know of.

    That ain't gonna work right.
     
  9. Mainsail

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    Thanks everyone! I like the products from Simply Rugged, but I don’t see anything that would work with a backpack. I don’t like the chest holster on the other site at all, besides it wouldn’t work with a backpack anyway.

    The issues are:
    • I use three different backpacks (with three different belt widths) depending on the length of the hike.
    • Backpacks do not have a ‘narrow’ end that can feed through the slots on a typical pancake holster, they use the fat quick release buckles.
    • A chest holster/harness probably wouldn’t work because having holster straps under my pack straps would be irritating after a mile or two, and agony after 15 miles. I day-hike anywhere from 5 to 20 miles roundtrip, overnighters even more.
     
  10. AStone

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    Mainsail,

    I'm glad you've started this thread. We have similar goals and issues around carrying a large handgun with a backpack. (For me it's a SW 686+ instead of an Alaskan, but same general issue.)

    I have another thread in this revolver forum where I've been exploring the issue of how to carry a large, heavy handgun, including (but not restricted to) while wearing a pack. (I also want a system of carrying that revolver while in camp without a pack on; that's the easier part, but I don't want an OWB that is going to be uncomfortable for 10 hours, let alone keep pulling my pants down.)

    I, too, am a pack walker, and plan to do everything from 5 mile day hikes to 10 mile overnighters (no 20 miler's for me, thanks :eek: ). Same issue, though: traditional OWB belt holsters won't fit on a backpack padded waist belt (which, for those who haven't carried one, is HUGE, nothing like a regular belt), and wearing a shoulder harness under the shoulder straps could indeed be pretty irritating.

    So, I haven't found my optimum answer yet. I'm still considering the following, even though I admit they are not optimum:

    • Simply Rugged's Pancake (for carry without a backpack) set up on a "chesty puller" system for a pack (see this page on their web site; scroll down near the bottom to "chesty puller". You can click on the image for more images of the system.) This option would allow the same holster to be used as an OWB and as a shoulder/chest carried rig.
    • A chest holster like the one Cosmoline recommended, or the similar one by Simply Rugged called "Grizly Tuff" (same issue though: straps under the pack straps)
    • Getting really innovative now, I've considered having a holster - either leather or synthetic - either modified or custom built with an attachment system specifically for a waist belt on a pack. I'm not sure yet what that would look like, but if we can send a space craft to Mars, I'm pretty sure we can accomplish this lesser task

    I'm not giving up hope yet that such a thing as number three already exists out there somewhere. I keep visiting threads like this thinking someone on THR has one or knows of one and will say, "Oh, sure, here it is." So far, no luck. But it's nice to know there are two of us looking. Just imagine the difference in consumer pressure on companies like Desantis and Galco when there are two people looking for such a rig instead of one. :rolleyes:

    One possible solution may involve a company called Kifaru that makes a backpack weapon carrying system called "gunbearer". It's set up for long guns instead of handguns, but the point is, they may have something under design, or may be willing to consider such a project. I may contact them.

    Actually, I think I'm going to invite Rob of Simply Rugged into this discussion. He may have some ideas, or even be able (and more likely than the larger companies) to design something workable for a backpack. I'll keep you posted.

    OK, reading with interest. I hope we can come up with a good solution that doesn't break the bank.

    Nem
     
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    I think we're on the same page Nem, I wrote my concerns to Rob already. Here's what I suggested:

    I was thinking of a paddle type with a way of snapping the bottom of the paddle around a belt, possibly even two snaps spaced to accommodate wide or narrow belt widths.

    I used to carry my Taurus 85 in a fobus paddle holster, which worked OK. You can sort of see it in this picture on top of French Peak:
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    Nice! I have been wanting to check out that .44 Mag, but the shops around here don't seem to have them in yet. I think it will be my next purchase.

    I see in the ad where the guy on the lake fishing has one holstered, so they must exist. I wonder if that is the same frame size as the .454 Casull or the .480 Ruger. Perhaps you should try putting those sizes in manufactures websites to see what holsters are available for those guns and contact them and ask if they will work with the .44 Magnum.

    Good Luck! Let us know how you like that gun!
     
  13. AStone

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    Mainsail,

    Excellent idea! Yes, that's something like I had vaguely in mind, but hadn't tried to articulate it.

    Currently, I have a 0.5 L water bottle holder that I carry on my packs' waist belts (it can switch between packs, depending on which one I'm using) that works in a similar way. However, instead of wrapping entirely around the waist belt, it threads through the cinch strap on the waist belt, and the "snap" is actually a wide velcro holder.

    I wouldn't want to fasten a large revolver holster via a velcro strap to a cince strap, however :uhoh: , so something more solid that wraps around the entire belt with two snaps (or a buckle?) would be a better idea.

    In the best of all worlds, this would be a system that could be added to a paddle or pancake holster that could be removed (instead of being integral to it) for use as a traditional OWB. As long as the added component is engineered in a way that allows secure attachment so that the holster is a tight fit and doesn't "flop around" (as is too often the case when adding, say, additional pockets to a backpack using some half-***** attachment system).

    Please keep us posted, and I'll play more with design ideas and considerations here, as well.

    By the way, I really like the inverted knife mount arrangement on the left shoulder strap. Anything special there? How do you attach the scabbard to the strap?

    Thanks,

    Nem
     
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    Galco makes one for a belt. usgalco.com
     
  15. Mainsail

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    Pretty good Nem, most people miss the knife up there under the GPS pouch, even people I pass on the trail. I just duct-tape it to the strap. Low-tech but effective.
     
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    OK, well I found this rig over here. It looks like it might work with a backpack belt too. It's the Carjacker Crossdraw.

    EDIT: I spoke to the owner and he worries the thin nylon belt on the pack might not support such a heavy gun, and I have to agree with him on that. Back to the drawing board...

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    Ah, so there is a difference in our packs.

    The only one of my "packs" that has a thin nylon belt on it is my Mt. Smith fanny pack, and I don't walk long distances with it.

    My smallest pack full day pack - an Arc'teryx Bora 50 - has a full wrap around padded waist belt that measures 4.5" wide by 1/2" thick. The only thin nylon is just before the clip. My bigger (multi-day) pack has an even larger belt.

    I'm looking to wear the gun ON the padded part of the belt, not the thin nylon. I need something that wraps all the way around the padded part. That's where the comfort will come from. Otherwise, taking the pack on and off becomes a nightmare with a 40 oz handgun flailing around on a loose belt as the pack drops to the ground or comes up for mounting. :what:
     
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    Mainsail,
    what kind of looks and or comments do you get from other hikers when they see you are carrying a pistol?
     
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    Good question. I wondered the same.

    I recently handled a Ruger Alaskan
    in .454 Casull at my local shop.

    Most massive handgun I've ever seen
    (short of an N-frame with an 8" barrel,
    which doesn't appeal to me).

    So my guess as to "looks" from people on the "trail"
    (especially if they're eating granola
    and dressed in the latest trendy hiking garb from REI) is ...

    :what: :eek: :what: :eek: :what:
     
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    Submitted for your consideration:

    The Wilderness Safepacker:

    http://thewilderness.com/catalog/pr...id=18&osCsid=bb990fab96882749a16a19387f6e2ad1

    I have actually open-carried with a Safepacker for almost 3 years before AZ got CCW.

    The webpage specifically says the holster is designed to wrap around the waistbelt of a backpack. The belt loop runs the full height of the holster(as much as 11-1/4") and is very broad, but is kept thin and stiff with a plastic stiffener insert, and is secured around the body of the holster with BOTH Velcro and a Fastex buckle. The holster itself is VERY sturdily constructed and VERY well-padded, it was designed for LE Mountain Search & Rescue use after all. The design is also relatively low-profile in that the weapon is totally enveloped by the holster, which itself is square and not "gun-shaped."

    The only downsides are that the draw is somewhat slower than a more conventional thumb-break or open-top holster, and the Safepacker is not made for longer-barreled hunting handguns - but, if it will fit the S&W 500ES, or a 4" Model 29 or Taurus .44Mag, your Ruger Alaskan should fit as well.
     
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    This sounds very interesting.
    But the link is a 404 "page not found".
    Got any other links?

    I've googled it and getting some reviews,
    including this one on THR,
    but still no reliable source.

    Thanks.

    Added by edit: I found one source.
    Cool belts, too.

    Edit 2: the description suggests that the Safepacker
    is made mainly for pistols.

    Will it accommodate large revolvers, also?
    (I can't tell how it's designed inside.)

    Edit 3: I just found this link about the Safepacker
    from Kor in another holster thread.
    It works.
     
  22. Kor

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    Guess I need to take Remedial Cut-'N-Paste...:eek:

    The model you will probably want is the LGR(Large-Grip Revolver), the website says it will fit magnum revolvers with oversize Hogue or Pachmayr grips and up to 4" barrel.

    The Safepacker's interior is basically a thickly-padded, rectangular gun rug with a stitch dividing the bottom half into two compartments; the gun's barrel goes forward of the stitch-line, and a magazine or speedloader can fit aft of the stitch-line. There's no molding per se for the specific gun, but the padding is "memory-foam" that takes a set after a while(but will "un-set" if the holster is left empty for a day or so).
     
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    The sportsman holster I've used has six steel rings, one on each corner and two in the middle of the sides. You can hook your existing chest straps on the pack to these in whatever configuration you want. I've found that on long hikes any conventional holster carrying the weight of a big Ruger will get annoying or painful.
     
  24. Mainsail

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    To the question about getting looks on the trail, the only time I passed another hiker while armed (last summer) I was surprised to see that he was even better armed. It was a man, a woman, and three kids. I suspect the .44 will get a few looks, but eh, so what.

    I got a reply to my email from Rob and he doesn’t think the straps on a chest harness would be troublesome, so I may go with that. Comoline is correct about the weight, and pretty much mirrors what Rob was saying. It’s a serious chunk of stainless, it’s not going to float on my belt.

    I really don’t like the safepacker at all.
     
  25. Porter_Rockwell

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    Ruger Sells em!

    Check out Ruger's site:

    1) I own the Uncle Mikes Vesrion. It works just fine, but rides a little high.

    2) The Galco version is actually pretty nice. It is a bit pricey, but very well made and reliable.

    God Bless---

    Porter.
     
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