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Discussion in 'Activism' started by glockman19, Sep 6, 2007.

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  1. glockman19

    glockman19 Member

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    If AB 1471 gets signed into law your state will be next. Please call Gov. Arnold and ask him NOT to sign the bill into law if you're a resident or not. Urge your Gov. to call him too.

    Call Glock, S&W, Beretta and every other manufacturer and as them to call too before microstamping sweeps through the entire Country & Industry.

    Let's STOP this before it gains the traction to spread around the country.

    Whether you like it or not you will be next.

     
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  2. Omaney

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    I read the brief synopsis. Does this technology exist?
     
  3. Omaney

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    Googled the bill. This is lunacy.
     
  4. kermit315

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    yes, it is lunacy. Please, if you guys have a few minutes, drop a line and help us out. If you need backup from us let us know and we will drop lines to whomever you need contacted when it is your turn in the chamber so to speak.

    thanks in advance guys,

    Jamie
     
  5. gunsmith

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    will it really cause pistol makers

    to cease selling to the CA? & if so does that include the CA LEO market?
    It would be sweet if the manufactuerers(SIC) stood up for the consumers like Barret did, and refuse to sell to LE angencies of offensive states.
     
  6. Librarian

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    Debatable. A group maintains it can do this laser etching, and apparently that works, but the transfer to cartridges is less certain.

    And it's irrelevant - revolvers don't eject cartridges, shotguns and rifles are not covered, and criminals are not so stupid that they won't figure that out by 2010.
     
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    THere's a section there on micro-stamping and how useless it is. Not only can the stamper be filed away, the test models had an unreadable stamp after only a few firings. I agree we should cut this one of before it spreads. Most states would see it as useless and a waste of money, but NJ, NY, and Mass, would sign on in a heartbeat. A CA passage would only give it an amount of credibility, however wrong it is.
     
  8. glockman19

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    microstamping on a Federal level

    While California may be the first state to pass the microstamping legislation, Massachusetts and Rhode Island introduced similar legislation this year and the Maryland Police Department is promoting consideration there. Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA and Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Los Angeles) intend to introduce legislation to require microstamping on a Federal level.

    Everyone MUST contact the Gov. of California if you live here or not. IT WILL AFFECT YOU TOO.
     
  9. glockman19

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    Thank you...

    Just wanted to say...

    Thank you...:)

    to everyone who contacted a CA legislator, the Gov. or a Manufacturer today. Let's keep it up Arnold has until October 14th to sign the bill into law.

    If this passes it will soon be comming to your state too

    G19

    "Don't go down without a fight"
     
  10. Gord

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    Hasn't this already come up two or three times?

    Guess they're just going to keep trying until it gets passed...
     
  11. gunsmith

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    I am bumping this to the top

    because Gov Arnold may well wish to continue being a politician somewhere.
    (veep?) so others around the country should keep up the heat.
    be polite!
     
  12. glockman19

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    Does anyone have email addresses for the big companies? S&Ws kept bouncing, Beretta and Ruger didn't seem to have anything but a form available, etc.
     
  14. glockman19

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    Beretta
    http://berettausa.com/contact_us.htm
    In the United States:

    Beretta U.S.A. Corp
    17601 Beretta Drive
    Accokeek, MD 20607,
    USA

    In Europe:

    Fabbrica D' Armi Pietro Beretta S.p.A.
    Via Pietro Beretta, 18
    25063 Gardone Val Trompia
    Brescia, Italy
    Tel 030.8341.1
    Fax 030.8341421


    Glock
    http://www.glock.com/english/index_contact.htm
    GLOCK, Inc.
    6000 Highlands Parkway
    Smyrna, GA 30082
    U.S.A.
    Tel.: +1 770 - 432 1202
    Fax: +1 770 - 433 8719


    Smith & Wesson
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...catalogId=11101&content=12010&sectionId=10504
    By Email: qa@smith-wesson.com

    By Telephone:
    1-800-331-0852 (USA)
    Mon-Fri 8:00AM-8:00PM Eastern Time

    1-413-781-8300 (International)
    Mon-Fri 8:00AM-5:00PM Eastern Time

    By Fax:
    1-413-747-3317 (USA)
    1-413-731-8980 (International)

    By Mail:
    Smith & Wesson
    2100 Roosevelt Avenue
    Springfield, MA 01104


    Springfield Armory
    http://www.springfield-armory.com/contactus.php
    Mailing Address:
    420 West Main Street
    Geneseo, IL 61254

    Phone:
    800-680-6866
    309-944-5631
    Fax:
    309-944-3676
    E-mail:
    sales@springfield-armory.com

    Ruger

    Corporate
    Headquarters
    Lacey Place
    Southport, CT 06890
    Telephone: 203-259-7843
    Fax: 203-256-3367
     
  15. fletcher

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    Thanks.

    Submitted my thoughts on this issue to all of the above.

    For anyone interested in shooting off a fax to the companies not accessible by email, this company claims to offer free online faxing (used them for Glock and Ruger):
    https://faxzero.com/
     
  16. Guitargod1985

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    If I've done the automated call-in thing 200 times in a day will that count as 200 "againsts" or just one?
     
  17. learn2shoot

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    It depends on how they are counting calls - total vs. unique If they are looking at unique Caller IDs (CID) then you would have been counted once for all your hard work. If I was running the phone system there I would look at both but give more far weight to unique CIDs. The work around for this is to use *67 before dialing and this will block the CID from being captured on their end.
     
  18. enkindler

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    learn2shoot: *67 does not block the ANI only consumer CID, I'm betting they would use the ANI.
     
  19. glockman19

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    To important to get burried.

    BTT
     
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    emailed Ahhhnold as an ex-(and never again, although I did not tell him that part :) ) California citizen about four weeks ago.

    No reply whatsoever, and no surprise.
     
  21. Snowdiver

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    Plus, the way I read the bill it will make it illegal to sell guns that do not have the microstamp technology. This is serious and it will be the proverbial line drawn in the sand. Many people will ignore this type of law and exert their Second Amendment right.
     
  22. TexasRifleman

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    I been hearing the "so goes California so goes the rest of the country" line for years. Somehow I'm just not that afraid that Texas will line up behind California.

    Doesn't mean I won't do what I can to help defeat this, but I'm not living in fear that we'll emulate everything the good Gov Schwarz signs.....
     
  23. TnShooter83

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    done it 3 times now......
    So far NO reply.

    Hummm???????
    I hope they at least read them
     
  24. Spot77

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    If you are awaiting a response, you might have to wait until after he signs or vetoes the bill.

    My two Senators dont respond to me for months after I contact them.
     
  25. fletcher

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    Here's the response I got from Beretta concerning this bill:

     
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