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All these Bali threads!?!?

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Yo Mama, Aug 13, 2010.

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  1. Gunfighter123

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    Some new Balis that DaBird just got --- ONLY because CDR didn't see them first ---- that guy buys everything he sees:cuss:

    Ya know I luvs ya CDR --- just "hacking on ya" :neener:
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    And got some VERY COOL ones on the way this week and next.
     
  2. Silverbullit

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    Strange, Balisong/Butterfly knifes are illegal in Sweden. (I'm Swede, thus the insight)

    I found a couple of posts here a bit out there...

    It is quite obvious that if you encounter anyone with any "know how" whatsoever in a real life situation you will NOT know he has a knife,
    he will unfold it so you do not know it is there. This goes for "him/her" both in self-defense mode or with "him/her" with the intent to shovel dirt in your face.
    If you would encounter the unlike situation to quickest unfold your knife and stab to win - you would both be on a skill-level that would put you both in the same box. (Literally speaking)

    and so forth *lol how incredibly stupid*
    If you encounter an opponent with the means, skills and determination to polka with you - your second conclusion should be that youre within all probability in deep ****!
    (The first conclusion would be to practice the first rule in a sharp edged scenario, turn your shoes 180 degrees and USE THEM!)
    If you needed to read the paranthesis above on the first rule, you should really avoid in getting in to any life-threatening situations like in these discussions.

    Sorry I took for granted that my objection to the latter would be obvious for everyone.
    If you try to smack somebody in the face knife to knife it would involve three basic facts,
    1/ As you both are edge to edge, while you tried some silly bitch-slap to his face, he would plant his pigsticker in your clever chest
    2/ Actually even if you think this guy is unarmed and helpless he hides his knife if he has any knowledge whatsoever, youre unawareness of this would suggest you have no clue to what your in for. Which in this case scenario would be a skilled fighter that would by now likely sliced your fingers, filéd your entire forearm while lifting it towards his face to slap him, you would be wide open and he/her would have taken your knife away and stabbed you in your armpit followed up by slicing your throat, then either backed off to watch you bleed out or finished the job. And worser case scenario he knows basic stuff like working an angle/cutting the angle, than you would be unrecognizable by now.
    3/ I don't even know why I bother... If you need to have this discussion just frikkin run!

    These are horrible facts, and I'm not trying to be a smart-a**, just making it clear in case anyone has any delusions. Cause it could save your life for something more meaningful.
    I beleive somebody here bragged about some real life encounters, I will not, in fact I will say nothing that could be held against me in a court of law or otherwise.
    Not that there is, I apply the first rule, running like a little girl in a friday the 13:th sequel if I have this eminent option.
    Secondly I put little faith in anybody flashing stories in a public forum to prove a point just as I guess you do to.

    If Darwins theory has any application to reality some people here upon attempting to prove their theories will undoubtedly not show up for a second post!
    So a warning in all well meaning,
    there is a wast difference between juggling a knife and doing fancy tricks from the skill and determination to use it in a real life situation. (Self defense or otherwise)
    If youre a softminded knife-juggling teenager struck by the bright idea of scaring some poor soul with that fancy juggling you could hit jackpot and run in to someone who actually knows and trained to use a knife.
    Even if hes without a knife, you would be in deep **** if you brought yours for him to take.
    If youre not catching the drift now, let me put it this way,
    BAD IDEA!!!

    There are more people than you wish to know out there that had, beyond the obvious types, specific martial arts training, army education (Haganah, Spetzna, Hunterbranch, legionarres, even more modern varieties as FIGHT/Haganah) some Prison systems and so forth. The people you romantisize being are out there. If you locked your door to keep mom and pop from seing you juggle for years in your room it helps none, any and each above would unfortunately enough file you.
    I have a past in the army and more experience of the above mentioned systems than I care to admit, I would run. I have met some real bad-asses during these sessions and otherwise, they breathed, guess why? They ran!
    Allt this is rethorical - because it all boils down to being psycho or a last resort as self-defense.
    If you still not planning on getting yourself a good pair of airbubbled Nike's to match your beautiful balisongs theres not much more I can say...

    Stay alive, stay at home in front of a mirror dream youre a superhero and do your juggling alone within locked doors.
    For all our sakes!
    I gather most people here are alright upstairs, but just in case theres some feeble minded person dreaming of enacting his fantasies IRL...

    Take care of yourselves instead. Even if you take offense I hope you can appreciate that I placed this post in all well-meaning.
    You have family, friends, relatives and forum-mates that appreciates you sticking around IRL!



    /Silverbullit *babbling idiot*
     
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  3. CDR_Glock

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    Silverbullit

    I meant Belgium not Sweden.

    My primary defense is avoidance and situational awareness. To use a lethal weapon of any type is a last resort, for me. I have been in one compromising situation but I talked my way out of it, and escaped.

    Even though I carry a firearm/backup gun or magazine, it would not give me the right or need to lower my threshold to use on anyone. My Fight or Flight response is still to run, unless cornered.

    The knife I carry is for day to day use. It is a weapon of last resort. Only if avoidance, voice of reason, firearm failure and means of escape have not succeed, then I would resort to a knife. My backup is a fixed blade before I would use a folder. But as you can see, I will avoid a death match at all costs.

    My hobby of collecting knives and manipulating balisongs is limited to the home. Fancy tricks are great to watch and perform but are a great way to end up bleeding to death. That I understand. These fancy flips, rollovers and aerials are a practice of skill; however, I do make the distinction between performance and survival.

    Your points are well taken. The flash and awe of a knife being shown is nothing less than reckless. In of itself, it intimidates no one. In the presence of a master weapons practitioner it makes for an adjunct to the most important tool in the vast assortment of weapons...the human brain.

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    Now back to the thread....
     
  4. Gunfighter123

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    Silverbullit -----
    I will start my reply by saying I find your reply to be both RUDE and UNINFORMED.

    I guess with all your "real world encounters" --- you know this to be a FACT 100% of the time ??? So there is NO CHANCE of me spotting their hand going into their pocket to pull out a fold/fixed knife ??? And NOT A CHANCE that a simple face to face arguement , turns into a armed conflict ??? And in that last sentance , are you talking about a "quick draw" High Noon type "shoot out" ?? You state " and stab to win "?? I have been taught to SLASH OR STAB ---- if you attempt to "draw and stab" a person and that person has been training { notice I said TRAINING and NOT JUST TRAINED } in a stick/blade MA , that person SHOULD , at the very FIRST THING , be blocking/checking the most threat --- in this case -- the knife hand. IF you "block" a thrust with YOUR KNIFE , chances are you have cut tendions , muscles , etc. in the hand / wrist / arm. MAYBE you have never heard the term "defanging the snake" ?? Take out the "fangs" {knife hand} and the snake is no longer as big a threat.

    NOW --- before you "pick and choose" a minor point. Should a person ALWAYS try to cut the BGs knife hand ??? OF COURSE NOT !!! But CONTINUAL TRAINING , will allow you to go on "auto-pilot" and you will go for any target you can get , be it with a Slash or a Thrust.

    Three FACTS as YOU see it !!!

    Your Fact # 1 ------ "edge to edge , he plants his pig sticker in your chest" ----- and you mean as I " try to bitch-slap him in the face with my nunchuk -Balisong-Ninja Move" , I take it ???? REREAD the WHOLE part of being able to use a bali as a flail/nunchuk ---- it IS NOT a move to cripple or kill -- it is a POSSIBLE TACTIC . Should you use this "trick" as someone tries to "plant a pig-sticker" in you ???? NO and NOWHERE in my post can you show WHERE I SAID to do so. It should go without saying -- But -- I guess it needs to be said. IF YOU ARE ATTACKED WITH A DEADLY WEAPON , GO FOR THE "STOP" OR KILL TARGET. The "flail/nunchuck" is a option , used to either surprise someone with a MINOR hit or distract them so you can " place your pig sticker in THEIR chest" .

    Your FACT # 2 ------ I have NO IDEA what your point is !!!

    Your Fact # 3 ---- I don't know why I bother either !!! But MAYBE it is to have a DISCUSSION ---- MAYBE to LEARN something from another poster , and MAYBE to TEACH a single point to others on the forum.


    IF YOU are talking about ME -- PLEASE show the "brag" part. And YOU will not say "anything that could be used in a court of law " ???? PLEASE GET REAL and SHOW WHAT your talking about ---- what did I post that could be used against me in a court ???? LOL If YOU don't want to go public with YOUR real life encounters , have the manners to not try to ridicul those that do, please. You state you "have little faith in a person flashing flashing stories in a public forum etc " ----- Well Sir , I have VERY LITTLE faith in someone who says " I know this because I've done it BUT I just can't talk about it " !!!

     
  5. jahwarrior

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    you gotta love all the Internet Commandos, who deign to share their intimate and irrefutable knowledge of what self defense techniques will and won't work.:rolleyes:
     
  6. CDR_Glock

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    Let's calm down and just get back to showing our knives. Can't we all just get along?

    Gunfighter123: you're holding back on your Bali sources! Pray tell!

    My Les Voorhies arrived! Pix to follow!
     
  7. CDR_Glock

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    Les Voorhies No. 7 Titanium Liner,Red Carbon Spacer and Black Carbon overlay with a 5" Damascus Blade and Damascus Roller T latch. This is a pleasure to flip!!! It is smooth, quiet, large, beautiful and light.

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    What a piece of Heaven!
     
  8. Silverbullit

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    CDR_Glock
    Your choices certainly seems initiated. Besides the Glock, the bowie (Positive in both defense and attack) and the tanto from cold steel would have me worried in the before mentioned order. =) To quote a friend "Cold steel makes nice quality knifes and hilarious videos." What lies beneath the balisong? Can't quite make it out on my small screen..

    Seriously speaking Gunfighter123, this is not the only, first nor last post about carrying knifes in self defense purpose and I think you got my point. My comment that if your scenario of slapping involved people in return armed with edged weapons like for instance Vladimir Vasilij or Mike Kanarek it would probably be a bad idea to attempt any slapping. However if you interpreted that my post was aimed towards you in person it was not the case, my apologies. CDR_Glock caught my point stating the difference between play and cold reality, I thought you would read between the lines also G123. My apologies yet again, Are we okey Gunfighter123?

    My aim was to sound harsh to catch attention upon fancy balisong moves could in fact do more damage than help and snap youngsters out of any grandoise delusions.
    I posted in hope that nobody at all would get hurt, period.


    /Silverbullit *couch potato alter ego internet superhero*
     
  9. CDR_Glock

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    That is a Benchmade Infidel 3300 Out the Front Knife. It was hot that day and carrying a 11" fixed blade was going to be too obvious.

    When it gets colder I can carry my more formidable Bowie or Cold Steel Tanto.

    BTW. check out Knife Forums. A guy has a GORGEOUS 1950s SWEDISH Balisong. Wow!

    Here is my other knife that came today.

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    Filipino FHM Old School 24 cm. Thin handles and very quiet.

    There is a distinction between Balis sold by Pinoy Steel and others that seem to trickle in from other distribution sites. Jay at Pinoy Steel sells great FHMs. Solid, great value and quality workmanship.
     
  10. Gunfighter123

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    Silverbullit ---- Sorry for being harsh --- got the flu and a fever -- drinking that damn Nyquil makes me cranky ---- or it could be because that darn CDR keeps snipeing all the balis as I doze off !!! I may have to email HIS WIFE to check the balance of his credit cards !!! LOL

    Silverbullit --- i take back anything that may have been insulting to you and I AM SORRY for making it sound personal -- forgive me.

    I am not as big a jerk as I seemed in my reply -- and I do hope that we are cool.

    CDR --- got new goodies , will post tomorrow !!!!! Don't it just suck , me knowing your CC numbers !!!!! Thanks for the early Christmas !!! lol
     
  11. CDR_Glock

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    Dang!

    Are you starting a balisong museum in Chi-Town?

    You have more Balis in those two pix than I have in my collecione' (French Accent).
     
  12. CDR_Glock

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    You have more? Man! You are the Bali-King.

    Whaddya think about my Carbon fiber Bali? She is a Beauty! It's like Bali Porn.
     
  13. Silverbullit

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    Howdy mates,

    Yes were okey Gunfighter123, I do hope youre feeling better from the flu?
    (I'm down with pneumonia myself for the third time this year and you have my sympathies. Starting to figure it might be related to my bullet-casting, need to check my vent system takes care of all fumes...)
    I re-read my post and you were right, I sounded cranky and I am glad that you accepted my apologies and that were o.k.!
    DON'T have his wife check the balance - we would miss his beautiful posts mate! ;)

    CDR_Glock, I posted at the same time as you and missed that no.7, it looks marvelous and you got me curious if it feels qualitive to?
    In fact theres a lot of beautiful balis in your posts, like the bradley =)
    I will see if I can find that Swedish bali you spoke of.
    Before the ban they were quite common here in Sweden, they were sold as "Fishing knives/Fishermens knives". Some models where common, that after the arrival of internet became apparant to me, were quite odd internationally compared.
    After the ban I had to get rid of my personal collection, I wish they could have gone to sincere collectors as yourselfes...

    /Silverbullit
     
  14. Gunfighter123

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    Well , I think it is like the Mona Lisa of Balisongs !!!!!!!!!!

    ANd I THINK it deserves a much better home then YOU can give --- better send it TO ME and I'll start a collage fund , dental plan , and make damn sure it will never get abused by its mate when it grows up and leaves DaBird Nest.

    My lawyer will grant you weekend visits and two weeks unsupervised vacations a year ----- I'd NEVER stand in the way of its REAL Parent :neener:
     
  15. Gunfighter123

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    This Weeks Score !!!

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    A BM43MC
    A Dalton Special Forces "custom"

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    Dalton "MONSTER" SF Bali

    I been waitting for this like a kid at Christmas !!!!

    "Custom" Rob Dalton Special Forces Bali --- and it IS "Special" !!!!!

    Features ---- 5 1/8" blade , Carbon Fiber Grip Panels , Roller Bearings , Top Swedge SHARP , and "Special" Ser. Number

    A full review in a few days --- when I get the balls to flip it !!! This Bali is a MONSTER --- BIG , HEAVY , SCARY SHARP :what:

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  17. CDR_Glock

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    That is mighty fine.

    Too rich for my blood.

    Do they make $2 Bali's???
     
  18. CDR_Glock

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    Nope, The Girl is mine! Mine! Mine! Oh the girl is mine!
     
  19. CDR_Glock

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    The feel is like nothing I have experienced in a Bali. Smooth, light and fast.
     
  20. CDR_Glock

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    I have one last knife incoming...from Belgium: Mikkel Willumsen (any day now).

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    Here are the pics of what I have now. I have a case to store all of them now. I am done. I am not buying any more....she put my credit cards into our shredder. Arrggh!

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    yeah, riiiiiiiiight......:rolleyes:
     
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    666 is your serial number?

    It is a beast. Is it something that you think I would enjoy!
     
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    wow, that's a kind of disturbing seeing as how i sold my PCC11 AFTER "Kick Ass", for 85bux. then again, mine wasn't in great shape.
     
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    Hi Zig ---- do not be to down on yourself --- I've had that PCC11 for sale for $140 from when I bought it and still have not sold it !!!! If you want to buy it back PM me and I will cut a good deal.
     
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    CDR ---- Yes , I requested 666 --- and my 2nd SF I ordered is # 999 --- unless you hold it UPSIDE DOWN !!!!

    Now I got a email from Rob stateing he is offering a " members club " bali in December.
    That is just about the time I got to pay for the 2nd SF bali ---- I am going to love Christmas ----- BUT ---- will my wife still love ME ???
     
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