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Always happy to point out a Hypocrite..

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by DeepSouth, Jan 8, 2012.

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  1. DeepSouth

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    I read a entire book once on Hypocrite gun control advocates, my dad had it years ago, I think was Politically Correct Guns by Alan Gottlieb but I can't remember for sure.

    Here is an article I found interesting, short version is the Mayor of Mobile came home and found a stranger in his garage, pulled a gun on him and held him at gun point until the police got there. The Mayor is a member of Mayor's Against Illegal Guns and will not comment on weather or not he has a permit. :uhoh::uhoh:

    It always amazes me how the antis in power seem to be "anti 2A for every one else, but pro 2A for myself." May be that's what they mean when they talk about supporting the 2A. They support themselves having the right to bear arms but not everyone else.

    Feel free to share some Hypocrite anti stories, somehow I bet there's a lot of them.
     
  2. TwoWheelFiend

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    Ever watched the Penn & Teller episode of Bullshi* about gun control? Its from season 3 i believe. If you ever get a chance watch it, its good stuff. And of course HE needs a gun. Hes the mayor. Why should everyone else be able to have one?
     
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    He's against illegal guns. I am too*. Does that make me a hypocrite?





    *by "illegal guns" I assume it means prohibited persons fwho have guns. I sure would prefer "rehabilited" violent felons to not have guns.
     
  4. Hossfly68

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    I wondered if anybody else saw that story. If you're familiar with Mobile though, you'd understand. That man has flushed this town down the drain.
    Gun sales and carry permits are through the roof here these days.
    I'm originally from Memphis. I left there the day Willie Herrington took the mayor's office. He had been accused of rape. He was rotten to the core. And Memphis paid for it. I don't go into town when I visit home anymore. Give it a few years. Mobile will be the same.
     
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    If you read anything about "mayors against illegal guns" you would not support them. Do some research
     
  6. Ignition Override

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    Thanks. I just watched that Penn & Teller episode and it is interesting.
    Better gun control was achieved a week ago with my SKS.:)

    Gun control means much more success hitting a small Coke bottle from 30-50 yards with this new aperture sight!
     
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    Reminds me of Sarah Brady, who tries to disarm every law abiding citizen, and gives speeches about how no one should be allowed to carry a gun except the police, all the while surrounded by private armed security personnel.
     
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    Thumbs up & " Whatever "
    If he does not have a permit where required it would make him as criminal as I if I did not.
     
  9. LibShooter

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    Mayor Jones used a gun to thwart a robbery in his home. That's not illegal in Mobile, Alabama. There's nothing hypocritical about opposing illegal guns and using a gun legally.

    Yes, The Honorable Mr. Jones belongs to "Mayors Against Illegal Guns." Here's what they say on their website:

    "We support the Second Amendment and the rights of citizens to own guns. We recognize that the vast majority of gun dealers and gun owners carefully follow the law. And we know that a policy that is appropriate for a small town in one region of the country is not necessarily appropriate for a big city in another region of the country."


    Other members of that organization have been very unfriendly to gun owners. If the group's founder, Mayor Bloomberg had done what Mr. Jones did that would have been hypocritical because having a .38 in NYC is almost alway illegal.
     
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    except they want to make the law and make you obey it. I mean they wouldnt lie on their website...right?
     
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    He came home and pulled a gun on the robber so he was carrying the gun on him. So yeah no permit=illegal.
     
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    On the elitism and blatant hypocrisy of Chuckie Schumer...

    From "The Mumbai Massacres and Gun Control", KCNewswatch.com, Nov. 30, 2008
     
  14. Justin

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    Allow us to take a look at exactly what MAIG stands for.

    Opposes national concealed carry reciprocity?
    Yep.

    Wants to keep permanent records of NICS checks, despite the fact that federal law prohibits it?
    Yep.

    Wants to require background checks for private sales at gun shows?
    Yep.

    Wants to change the law such that anyone who's put on the notoriously inaccurate and secretly held terrorist watch list can't buy a gun, despite the fact that people on that list haven't been so much as charged with a crime?
    Yep.

    For supporting documentation of the above, please see This section of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns website.

    Supports the use of shoddy and discredited ballistic fingerprinting technology?
    Yep.

    Want to institute creepy, Orwellian anonymous tip lines?
    Yep.

    Support gun buyback schemes, despite their dubious history of doing antstatistical good?
    Fo shizzle.

    Support for a law that disallows what would be otherwise legal possession of a firearm for someone under the age of 21?
    Yep.

    Supporting a requirement to license ammunition sellers, as well as banning the sale of .50 BMG ammunition?
    Yep.



    I'm sorry, but the name "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" is a misnomer. It seems quite clear to me that their views on firearms go much further beyond possession of firearms by people who legitimately should be disbarred their use, and straight into the realm of quite literally infringing a constitutional civil right with absolutely no due process, compensation of nosey neighbors and snitches who drop a dime on a neighbor simply for walking to his/her car with a gun case, and generally instituting onerous restrictions that don't result in any functional decrease in crime, while making it harder to engage in shooting as a past time.

    Frankly, I'm somewhat disturbed that I had to do the research, especially when MAIG touts their obviously anti-rights initiatives right their on their own website.
     
  15. LibShooter

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    Sounds like Senator Schumer might be a hypocrite. That says nothing about Mayor Jones' status.

    Yep, MAIG holds some position none of us here would agree with. However, since Mayor Jones is over 21, none of the actions he took that night would have been prohibited by any of the things you listed that MAIG stands for.
     
  16. Justin

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    My post had nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with pointing out the stances taken by MAIG on a number of issues.
     
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    Granted. But, considering the post that started this thread I wanted to point out that those facts don't apply to Mayor Jones' situation.
     
  18. Justin

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    I don't know. I can't speak to Jones' record on guns, so I cannot directly say he's a hypocrite.

    That said, it does seem fairly clear to me that if he uses a gun to defend himself, while supporting attempts to curtail the same for others, that would seem fairly hypocritical to me,regardless of whether or not he's actually on the record as wanting to prohibit people's ability to use a gun for self defense in their own home.

    Furthermore, from the press portrayal of the situation, it would not be unreasonable to assume he was carrying the pistol on his person, while not on his property prior to encountering the perpetrator.
     
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    Thank you, Mr. "LibShooter" ["Might" Contain Sarcasm]

    Responding to a quote I posted about Sen. "Chuckie" Schumer, "LibShooter" wrote:
    Thank you so very much, Mr. "LibShooter", for trying to keep this thread on what you feel the topic should be limited to.

    May I remind you, however, that the OP said,
    Nevertheless, I find it most interesting that you think Sen. Schumer only "might" be a hypocrite. That certainly shows the kind of sensitivity, enlightenment and tolerance that makes Liberals so very superior to us Neanderthals.
     
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    "Mayors Against Illegal Guns," taken at face value, sounds perfectly reasonable. I mean, who isn't against illegal guns? Of course, that's just like saying that criminals shouldn't be allowed to commit crimes, or that illegal activity should be against the law. Of course it should. It's another carefully crafted beaurocratic non-statement, like "unauthorized use prohibited." Well of course it is!

    Where you run into trouble with MAIG is when you actually start looking into their agenda, and you discover all of the perfectly legal things that they want to make illegal. Then they start to sound a lot less reasonable; but hey, they've got a nice, inoffensive sounding name, so most folks will never notice.

    R
     
  22. LibShooter

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    Far be it from me to try to police the direction of any thread on a gun forum. If I wanted to do something like that I would spend the afternoon herding my cats.

    However, offering and defending an opinion that differs with the OP or anybody else is sorta what we do on internet fora.

    Sorry.

    The Neanderthals lived in harmony with their environment in a sustainable manner. It was the Cro-Magnon who started defacing pristine natural caves with their graffiti. :)
     
  23. Ringolevio

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    LibShooter:
    Touché. So, the Neanderthals must have been the noble savages that Liberals so admire, and it was those darn Cro-Magnons who "defaced" their "pristine" caves with their proto-writing that evolved into mankind's ability to express thought and language graphically. And then folks like Gutenberg came along and really messed things up, Right?
     
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    Ahh... the Good Ol' Days before the invention of proto-writing, flake tools, New Coke and polymer guns.
     
  25. GoWolfpack

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    Lots of people are pro-their-guns. Nothing is wrong with their guns, or the kinds of guns they like. FUDs and hunting rifles or bird guns.

    Lots of those same people are anti-your-guns. "You can't hunt with that, what do you need that for?" The people who don't see any problem with banning guns that look different from their guns.

    I believe a significant number of those who attempt to ban the ownership or purchase of guns by the proletariat are fully in favor of anyone's right to have armed guards protecting their families 24/7. Their view, skewed by a life separate from most other people, is that if you can't afford 24/7 armed guard service, what do you have that would make someone want to kill you?
     
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