Impureclient
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Not in person of course but to see what goes wrong. Here it is to learn from. 2:49 BOOM! Just a blank shell though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JCf3VuAh1E
Always wanted to see a negligent discharge
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No, you really don't want to see one in person. I've been lucky enough to only be around one, and it was a government issued weapon that was pointed downrange when it happend. I really, really don't want to be around one outside of a range envirnment.
On the other hand, IMHO anyway, these youtube videos do tend to be good for a laugh. The guy is demonstrating that you can fire a trench gun by simply holding the trigger and working the pump ... by loading a round, holding the trigger, and working the pump in his living room
On the other hand, IMHO anyway, these youtube videos do tend to be good for a laugh. The guy is demonstrating that you can fire a trench gun by simply holding the trigger and working the pump ... by loading a round, holding the trigger, and working the pump in his living room
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rcmodel
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No, You don't want to see one, or be around one to mop up the blood.
I got shot in the leg with an ND by a U.S. Army PFC on a range in 1965.
I helped clean up another range once after a recruit was killed by an ND in 1968.
I can assure you, you don't want to see one, or even be involved in any way with one!
rc
I got shot in the leg with an ND by a U.S. Army PFC on a range in 1965.
I helped clean up another range once after a recruit was killed by an ND in 1968.
I can assure you, you don't want to see one, or even be involved in any way with one!
rc
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That guy doesn't appear very sharp.
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About twenty seconds in he says "I am being stupid today." That was his cue to put down the gun. I am embarrassed to admit I belly laughed at his ND. But, other than his hurt pride, and strangely self deprecating decision to share the video, he appears as ok.
xxjumbojimboxx
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You dont want to see it.
They. Are. Awful.
I don't really want to get into the details, Because its embarrassing. my friend had one. Indoors, in a 10x13 foot room. It was a .45 acp...
It went through the side and back of a bookshelf(cheap partical stuff). through a wall (drywall). through a stud, and into the brick... where it stopped... It was shot at an angle... Thankfully rule #1 never escapes my friend, Always point it in a safe direction. The others my friend neglected from time to time because he's an ignorant jerk.
Ill tell you this... When you're 2 feet away from something you've shot with a .45... Stuff goes everywhere! like little bits of slower moving shrapnel... Second, when that gun goes bang... You likely wont realize what it was right away, it will take a second or two. Third. You will be overwhelmed with SHAME, as it is probably the second worst mistake, aside from killing someone, you can make as a gun owner. Fourth, you will have a new found sense of appreciation for earplugs. my friend's rang for about 4 hours. And finally, you will never do it again. I'm serious... my friend's whole outlook has changed on the situation. COMPLETELY... There is no cockiness anymore when it comes to firearms and safety... Nothing but following the rules from now on. My friend posted the four rules on the wall in his office and at his work bench where he work on his guns. And my friend stuck the .45 case that was fired into the bookshelf as a constant reminder... I still get freaked out about the incident... I mean, my friend could've done something horrible.
The benefit in all that is that it has completely removed my friend's ego on the safe handling of firearms... My friend always thought he's not that stupid, well apparently he is , and he will consider to treat himself as stupid and always triple check... quadruple check even.
You don't wanna be that guy... its truly shameful.
They. Are. Awful.
I don't really want to get into the details, Because its embarrassing. my friend had one. Indoors, in a 10x13 foot room. It was a .45 acp...
It went through the side and back of a bookshelf(cheap partical stuff). through a wall (drywall). through a stud, and into the brick... where it stopped... It was shot at an angle... Thankfully rule #1 never escapes my friend, Always point it in a safe direction. The others my friend neglected from time to time because he's an ignorant jerk.
Ill tell you this... When you're 2 feet away from something you've shot with a .45... Stuff goes everywhere! like little bits of slower moving shrapnel... Second, when that gun goes bang... You likely wont realize what it was right away, it will take a second or two. Third. You will be overwhelmed with SHAME, as it is probably the second worst mistake, aside from killing someone, you can make as a gun owner. Fourth, you will have a new found sense of appreciation for earplugs. my friend's rang for about 4 hours. And finally, you will never do it again. I'm serious... my friend's whole outlook has changed on the situation. COMPLETELY... There is no cockiness anymore when it comes to firearms and safety... Nothing but following the rules from now on. My friend posted the four rules on the wall in his office and at his work bench where he work on his guns. And my friend stuck the .45 case that was fired into the bookshelf as a constant reminder... I still get freaked out about the incident... I mean, my friend could've done something horrible.
The benefit in all that is that it has completely removed my friend's ego on the safe handling of firearms... My friend always thought he's not that stupid, well apparently he is , and he will consider to treat himself as stupid and always triple check... quadruple check even.
You don't wanna be that guy... its truly shameful.
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Impureclient
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"Wanting to see one" was poor choice of words on my part. It was more just morbid curiosity to see why they happen. This guy in the video gives us a good example.
xxjumbojimboxx
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Yeah man he was scared to death. When I wrote my post I didn't see the video first... but what I said is definitely visible. He said... well cursed... because of the initial shock... Then finally realized what happened after a couple seconds. and then turned the camera off in a final act of intense shame. Its no bueno.
allaroundhunter
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The scariest ND that I have been around occurred about a month ago. At a USPSA match, a shooter went to draw his handgun and it was stuck in his holster. He tried to push it back down to get a better purchase and two shots discharged straight through the bottom of his holster. Our best guess is that his shirt had found its way into his holster and into the trigger guard.
Thankfully, the man did not get shot, just had powder burns on his pant leg.
Thankfully, the man did not get shot, just had powder burns on his pant leg.
Seen too many of them after 7 years in the Army and a lot of time around foreign military retards. Almost took one in the leg, a buddy's knee is permanently ruined from one(a senior NCO discharging inside a vehicle). Not something I would say I have even a morbid curiosity about.
I was blasting up a few hundred rounds of .45 ACP while my brother was firing .44 magnum rounds one day. I had gone through way over 500 rounds though my Sig P220. Then when I racked the slide to load one in the tube frmo a fresh mag "pow" a round cooked off. Dad taught us well that you never point a gun at anything you don't want toward anything you aren't willing to shoot and it was a good thing he did because I could have shot my brother that day but I didn't. I let the Sig cool down some after that and went back to shooting without any further problems but I sure could have had one big one that day.
xxjumbojimboxx
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I bet it feels just as real and intense as the day it happened when you think back on it huh? I dunno maybe it's different when you're in a house.
gamestalker
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I agree, you definitely don't want to see an AD. I have had numerous AD's happen in my presence, with only the hand of God having prevented me from sure death in my opinion. As a result, a good number of avid shooters who know me, and that don't react and address careless handling as bluntly as I do, will often give me crap because of my blunt approach. I understand that getting barrel swept by someone happens from time to time, but if it continues, and that particular individual is actively displaying an absence or lack of awareness for gun handling safety, I respectfully, yet bluntly remind them of such, and I definitely pack up and leave.
I won't elaborate on the close calls I've had in this respect, as it is rather extensive. But I will say that I can recall without trying, that I have had at least 6 serious incidents. All involved me nearly being shot in the head at close range, with everything from shotguns to high powered rifles. And as a result, I rarely shoot at ranges any more, and I never go shooting or hunting with individuals I know nothing about in this respect.
As for AD's I've personally been responsible for, each and every time I was practicing good barrel policy, resulting in only the round impacting the ground and away from occupied positions, or in the direction of the target while the range was hot.
GS
I won't elaborate on the close calls I've had in this respect, as it is rather extensive. But I will say that I can recall without trying, that I have had at least 6 serious incidents. All involved me nearly being shot in the head at close range, with everything from shotguns to high powered rifles. And as a result, I rarely shoot at ranges any more, and I never go shooting or hunting with individuals I know nothing about in this respect.
As for AD's I've personally been responsible for, each and every time I was practicing good barrel policy, resulting in only the round impacting the ground and away from occupied positions, or in the direction of the target while the range was hot.
GS
oldbear
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Ya can't fix stupid
Well it looks as if our Internet expert proved two things, you can fire an M-37, :and ya can't fix stupid.................
Well it looks as if our Internet expert proved two things, you can fire an M-37
, :and ya can't fix stupid.................Shadow 7D
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Worst one I was near was a training where my unit was sharing an area with another unit, in a country shortly after terrorist had attacked this place.
There was a 24 hour mounted perimeter guard, while inside, the units conducted MOUT
It was chow time and change of perimeter guards, and a PFC from the other unit, a SAW gunner, ran into a few of his buddies PLAYING cowboys and indians on the beach...
Moral of the story, as they dusted two of these guys off, the man with the real bullets wins every time. The PFC was armed with a SAW, and in one burst took out two of his friends.
Complacency kills.
There was a 24 hour mounted perimeter guard, while inside, the units conducted MOUT
It was chow time and change of perimeter guards, and a PFC from the other unit, a SAW gunner, ran into a few of his buddies PLAYING cowboys and indians on the beach...
Moral of the story, as they dusted two of these guys off, the man with the real bullets wins every time. The PFC was armed with a SAW, and in one burst took out two of his friends.
Complacency kills.
beatledog7
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I've seen a few NDs on a hot range; all were unintentional doubletaps, the result of a too-light SA trigger pull on a semi-auto pistol.
All went downrange but not when they were meant to go. Nobody hurt, but still not a good thing to have happen.
All went downrange but not when they were meant to go. Nobody hurt, but still not a good thing to have happen.
berettaprofessor
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XXJUMBOJIMBOX; are you just waiting to see who would be the first to realize that is a CASING buried in the book case and call BS, or are you just out playing around?
I was wondering if they just stuck the casing in the hole the round made for show.
stonecutter2
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Saw an ND at an Appleseed event. The rifle was pointed downrange and it happened as someone got down in prone position. The rifle was fired after the safety off call was made, but before the fire command. The instructors kept things under control, though.
Showed up at a gun show shortly after an ND injured a few people. Someone put a live round in a Mini 14 (I heard it was someone function testing the rifle) and then didn't take it out. Another person picked up the rifle and thank God pointed it at a huge wooden support pillar. I mean this thing was easily 1 foot thick. The .223 round went through the pillar, then out and into a guy and his son got splinter wounds, then into a 3rd person.
The people who saw it looked shell shocked. Ashen and shaken.
You don't need to witness an ND on Youtube or in person to learn from them. The rules are very important, follow them and make safety your top priority at all times.
I actually learned a ton about firearm safety myself when I was in high school. Had a pellet gun that was like a 6 inch .357, and I'd put pellets in the chamber (why, I don't remember) when I put it away last. I was going to go out with friends and plink, and knew the co2 was empty, so I swapped in a new one.
Went to test fire it, and thankfully pointed it at a door (safe direction). Bang....CRACK! I was shocked. Realized the pellet slid along the door and made a gash, then fell on the carpet. I emptied the chamber and was filled with overwhelming shame, that another poster mentioned. I kept that little pellet. Just a scrape on the door, but man...not acceptable to make that mistake, but I'm very strict about safety now. Mistakes can be way too costly and tragic with firearms.
Showed up at a gun show shortly after an ND injured a few people. Someone put a live round in a Mini 14 (I heard it was someone function testing the rifle) and then didn't take it out. Another person picked up the rifle and thank God pointed it at a huge wooden support pillar. I mean this thing was easily 1 foot thick. The .223 round went through the pillar, then out and into a guy and his son got splinter wounds, then into a 3rd person.
The people who saw it looked shell shocked. Ashen and shaken.
You don't need to witness an ND on Youtube or in person to learn from them. The rules are very important, follow them and make safety your top priority at all times.
I actually learned a ton about firearm safety myself when I was in high school. Had a pellet gun that was like a 6 inch .357, and I'd put pellets in the chamber (why, I don't remember) when I put it away last. I was going to go out with friends and plink, and knew the co2 was empty, so I swapped in a new one.
Went to test fire it, and thankfully pointed it at a door (safe direction). Bang....CRACK! I was shocked. Realized the pellet slid along the door and made a gash, then fell on the carpet. I emptied the chamber and was filled with overwhelming shame, that another poster mentioned. I kept that little pellet. Just a scrape on the door, but man...not acceptable to make that mistake, but I'm very strict about safety now. Mistakes can be way too costly and tragic with firearms.
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Claude Clay
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----------^ wondered the same
could be paper thin veneer covering cheap particle board
but i doubt it also
i think Rynxia got it right
could be paper thin veneer covering cheap particle board
but i doubt it also
i think Rynxia got it right
allaroundhunter
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Go back and carefully read his entire post...
stonecutter2
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FYI, if you look at about any Youtube video, someone claims it's fake. There are way too many people online who think everything is fake, no matter how real it is.
Edit: If you watch, you can see the blast from the receiver area. Looks real enough to me.
Schwing
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My Dad used to work as an O.R. nurse back in the 70's. Back then there was a club that had quick draw competitions about 3 miles away from the hospital and they saw more than one holster discharge victim. He said the wounds were usually nearly identical. It goes in right above the right side of the knee cap and comes out somewhere between the left side of the ankle or bottom of the foot leaving the person with a permanent limp, if they are lucky. I go to that club now and... there are no quick draw competitions these days.
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