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American religious extremists dishonor soldiers funeral

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  1. CentralTexas

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    Phelps' Group Protests At Soldier's Funeral Fri Aug 5, 7:58 PM ET

    Members of the Rev. Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., are picketing military funerals, KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reported Friday.

    The group has made national headlines for traveling throughout the country to picket gay churches, gay weddings, and the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a gay college student who was murdered in Wyoming in 1998.

    Friday, about 15 members of the group -- some of them children -- picketed the funeral of a St. Joseph soldier who was killed in Iraq. Mahoney reported that the group stood across the road from the Grace Evangelical Church during the funeral of 21-year-old Spc. Edward Myers.

    "The first sin was being a part of this military. If this young man had a clue and any fear of God, he would have run, and not walked, from this military," said protester Shirley Phelps-Roper. "Who would serve a nation that is godless and has flipped off, defiantly defied, defiantly flipped off, the Lord their God?"


    One protester had an American flag tied to his belt that draped to the ground. He was holding a sign that read, "Thank God For IEDs," which are explosive devices used by insurgents to blow up military convoys.

    Protesters said America has ignored the word of God, and those who defend the nation must pay a price.

    "That's the first piece of solid evidence that you have that the young man is currently in hell," Phelps-Roper said.

    "The soldier is in hell now, you believe?" Mahoney asked.

    "Absolutely," Phelps-Roper said.

    'Protesters Were Rude'

    About a dozen veterans stood across the road from the protesters, and Mahoney reported that there were some harsh words and insults traded between the two groups. However, sheriff deputies were stationed about 100 yards away and there was no violence.

    "The protesters were so rude -- were disrespectful," said veteran Jim Fields.

    "Do I like it? No, I don't. But what can you say, it's a free country," said veteran Dave Campbell.

    Veterans told KMBC that a member of the soldier's family shouted at the protesters to leave, and they left about 20 minutes after the funeral started. Mahoney reported that there was applause from veterans and other crowd members when the protesters left.

    After the funeral was over, one of the mourners commented on the irony of the protesters showing up at a soldier's funeral.

    "They shouldn't protest the funeral for a man who was out there dying to protect the rights that they're demanding they receive," said Marvin Russell.

    Russell said he thinks the soldier's family saw the protesters.

    "I think it saddened them. They didn't say anything outright, but you could tell by the way they looked down that this was a sad thing to do. They're already in mourning, they don't need people like this to make it worse," Russell said.

    Myers was buried with full military honors in Leavenworth National Cemetery. He leaves behind a wife and two children.

    One of the protesters said the group is planning to picket other military funerals.

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  2. Zundfolge

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    Dear God, not that Phelps creature again ... ya know, that schmuck was here in Colorado Springs protesting at Focus on the Family headquarters one day because Focus is supposadly "too soft" on gays ... on the same day there was some gay group protesting Focus for being anti gay.



    I read a newspaper editorial back in Wichita Kansas several years ago when he protested some aids victims funeral there (or maybe it was the aids quilt) ... the editorial was from the head of some sort of local gay rights group and it basically said he felt bad for Evangelical Christians because of Phelps ... he said something to the effect of "Fred Phelps is to the Evangelical Christian community what NAMBLA is to the Gay Rights Movement."
     
  3. Phyphor

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    A pity...

    they couldn't have done the 21 gun salute...with live ammo...and not quite pointed into the air, if ya know what I mean..... :evil:


    Serriously, it truly is a pity that these creeps can't appreciate that folks like this have and WILL die to protect their right to do such garbage, no matter how tasteless it is.
     
  4. VARifleman

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    Good ole Phelps...a good picture to go along with this :cuss:

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  5. Jim March

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    Oh man, not these clowns again.

    If it's not clear yet, this is basically a cult. Most of the members of this "church" are one giant family. The term "inbred" has been kicked around a bit.

    Fun fact: when Al Gore ran for president in 1988, Fred Phelps was his Kansas state campaign manager. In 2000 during the Bush/Gore race, I kept posting photos of Phelps arm in arm with his good buddy Gore and some very determined people launched "denial of service" (DOS) attacks on every site I posted 'em to.

    Yup. The DNC had a black-hat hack team in play.
     
  6. Al Norris

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    I sure wish Phelps and his groupies would come to Idaho, for a serviceman's funeral (please note: we've had our share of these and I reaaly don't want more!). Disrespect of the Dead is a misdemeanor... But I bet I could talk the police into charging them with a felony. Just so's it could be plea-bargained down. :cuss:
     
  7. Dan from MI

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    Those pricks threatened to go protest a soldier's funeral out there. I'm glad they didn't, but if they did, It really would not surprise me if some of the cops "didn't see a thing"........
     
  8. DeseoUnTaco

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    He's a nobody who has made himself famous by being repulsive. The best thing to do about him would be for everyone to ignore him. I wish the news media would stop covering him. Then he would crawl back into his hole.
     
  9. Delmar

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    "Then he would crawl back into his hole."
    If he needs any help getting back into that hole, I will help!

    My God-I cannot believe what is happening to some people. My son Paul called me about this person. Paul is a medical corpsman with B 3/69th in Samarra. Edward Myers was killed when either an RPG or an IED exploded next to the humvee in which Myers was riding in. Lucky for the protesters that the men from 3/69 were not in attendance at the funeral-the protesters might well have been attending their own next :cuss:
    Good thing we have icons, because I would be permanently banned for typing what I think right now. My son had a perfect record of no deaths in his company since his arrival last January. They are due to rotate in December.

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  10. dasmi

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    The guy is a complete lunatic. He's a total prick. Luckily, he's old, so he'll be dead soon. Man, I would not want to be him when he meets the God I believe in, cause He is not going to be pleased with our boy Fred.
     
  11. Kurush

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    What the...? Crazy cultists, go drink some damn punch or something. :cuss:
     
  12. Jim March

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    Nope. She's gonna be very pissed off indeed.

    :evil:
     
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    Another one of the few good things about my neck of the PRC, (San Diego,) is that a good chunk of the LEOs are prior service. If disrespect of the dead was an enforceable misdemeanor here, (As opposed to a "blue law") I don't imagine the cops would turn a blind eye. Most of the boys in blue I have run into around here are pretty pro-military.
     
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    Perhaps his address and the address of his "church" should be published where Team Jihad can find it. :fire:
     
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    The phrase "shocked and appalled" doesn't even begin to describe my feelings on this matter.

    Eddie was a good friend of mine back in highschool. It was bad enough to learn that he'd died, but then to find out that some half-assed religious group actually picketed the funeral, paraded a sign saying "Thank God for IED's" in front of his wife and children, not to mention the rest of his family. . .suffice it to say that I'm closer to pure, black hatred than I've been in years.

    According to local news, there was another group there (Veteran Bikers, I think?) who kept the protesters on the far side of the road from the funeral. I couldn't help but think that if a drunk driver had come along, he could have rid us of the whole lot of them. A particularly poetic stroke would have been them tripping over a roadside IED of their own. I'm still having trouble getting my head around what their gripe was. They protested (in a rude and tasteless fashion,) because he had joined the army of a country that doesn't burn gay people at the stake. ***?

    I think that's about as much as I can rant without giving the forum a burnt language filter circuit. Can anybody tell me what'll happen with Eddie's wife and kids? I mean, will they get Social Security or a pension or something? I hate to think of them facing financial hardship on top of everything else.
     
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    Sometimes pure, black hatred is entirely appropriate.
     
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    Religious wackos come in all shapes and sizes.

    Sigh

    I'd like to think I'd have the self-restraint not to uh, deal with them. Not sure if I could or not. Best not to find out, and Phelps would be unwise to test it at any funerals I attend.
     
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    This guy is the Christian equivalent of the Imams that preach nothing but hatred for the west. I wouldnt shed a tear if they found space in Gitmo for this loser.
     
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    You know, there's a lesson from these turkeys that they definately didn't intend.

    Their first foray into religious hatred was aimed at gays, and while most people thought they were pretty ugly for picketing the funerals of dead gays, they didn't get all that much notice.

    What's interesting is that now their need to hate has spilled over onto somebody else, some other group, and now they're detested even more.

    Not to be too blunt here, but what we have is a textbook example of the argument in favor of "hate crimes" - the idea that violence motivated by pure bigotry is so dangerous that it needs extra punishment.

    Because if you don't stop it where it starts, it spreads like cancer.

    Now I'm well aware of the arguments against "hate crimes" and I find myself torn on the matter. Phelps however has managed to show that a life fed by and in support of hatred and bigotry seldom stops at the first target.

    For that matter, by the end of their sick reign, the Nazis had managed to hate an astonishing number of different people: Jews, anyone Slavic, anyone Gypsy, anyone African or of that origin, the disabled, the mentally ill, all political dissenters even when completely non-violent, the...dang, do I need to go on?

    Hate is a horrible thing...and addictive as hell once it eats you up.
     
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    I think that Phelps' father was probably some crazy fire and brimstone preacher, and this is how Phelps deals with his own homosexual cravings generated by his overbearing father. Someone should lock him up the next time he spews 'fighting words' so that he can get some of the rough gay sex he wants :)

    I agree with the earlier poster that said all Americans should receive the same rights. Honestly I think douchebags like this guy advance gay rights by accident.
     
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    Complete and total lack of respect

    This sickens me. As a vet of the first Gulf War who was lucky enough to come home unharmed, I feel for these brothers who are in a protracted bad situation where politics is the major player rather than military thinking. That's bad enough, but to have some jerk-off picketing funerals is over the top. Maybe they wouldn't be so thankful of improvised explosives if a few went their way? The fact that they are using an American freedom to protest the folks who protect it just adds to my disgust.
     
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    Shows an astonishing lack of intelligence to picket a military funeral, being as any other military folks attending would likely pound this twerp's brains into a finely ground mush. I guess his saving grace is that most of this soldier's comrades are still deployed.

    This is nothing more than political masturbation.....total self-gratification :fire:
     
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    He practices a religion that is alien to me.

    He came to Michigan to protest a cities policy on gay's and no one showed up. He got :fire: and went home, but left his daughter/wife in charge. She's going to take over when he's dead and gone.
     
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    Thank G-d for Small Favors

    This Phelps creature claims to be:
    1. Christian
    2. Baptist
    Which is enough to make me feel an especial desire to give him some wall-to-wall counseling while using a hard bound printing of the Good Book to drive home some telling points to Brother Phelps (seeing as I identify my self as both 1 & 2).

    But, Phelps also claims to be a Democrat*.
    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1999/03/lauerman.html

    Like I said, thank G-d for small favors.

    * I do not hold Democrats responsisble for Phelps.
     
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    I'm disgusted.

    He's sick. :barf:
     
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