American Reloading

Rimfire McNutjob said:
Yeah, but you have to understand ... my program would scan their website every 60 seconds. I would have an order in within 3 minutes of it showing on the website. That type of automation can expose some holes in a dealer's processes.
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High tech redneck. 😁

The gun club east of you, the TRPC, has group buys and in house FFL. You might want to check them out. My pops in law (RIP) got primers and powder at the clubhouse pretty regularly.
 
For a company who's business is only online, I was not able to do business with them. Thier system wouldn't recognize my e-mail address as valid and attempts to have them correct this were futile. Funny thing was I kept receiving notices from them in my e-mail that thier system wouldn't recognize during purchase attempts. 🤪
 
Hugger-4641 said:
For a company who's business is only online, I was not able to do business with them. Thier system wouldn't recognize my e-mail address as valid and attempts to have them correct this were futile. Funny thing was I kept receiving notices from them in my e-mail that thier system wouldn't recognize during purchase attempts. 🤪
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Well. Dang! That’s just strange.
I wonder if it would work if you signed up with Google or Yahoo? I use them for my online stuff.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
Well. Dang! That’s just strange.
I wonder if it would work if you signed up with Google or Yahoo? I use them for my online stuff.
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Well that probably would work and I do have a Google account attached to my phone, but I never use it. I've never had a problem setting up an account or purchasing as a guest anywhere else. 🙂
 
Jim Watson said:
Fiocchi primers have arrived. I am fatigued from cutting into the heavily taped overpack (so labeled) box, and digging out the bubble wrap to see actual Fiocchi boxes of primers. Entirely different from the sloppy packaging I got from Academy.

The long narrow 150 shot trays are... interesting. I will have to see if my flip tray will catch them all at once.

The driver DID wait for a signature. I wonder what he thought about the orange "1.4 EXPLOSIVE" label and red striped "Hazardous materials shipping papers enclosed" pouch.

HEY
I just noticed “Made in Italy.”
I have read that they had a US primer line. If so, must be using them all in house.
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Good primers, but they suck to dump into my Dillon RF100. As I am pulling the sleeve off of the tray while it is inverted over the funnel one or more of the primers inevitably come out of their slot and get between the sleeve and tray, making several others just fall right out on the floor. I really wish they went through my Double Alpha primer pro so I could just dump 4 sleeves in at once, but, no such luck.
 
Mine came in today and they were nicely packaged in a cardboard box with just a layer of packing tape sealing the ends

Walkalong said:
Small package, don’t take up much more room than 1K Federals.
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Wow you're right.
I stacked mine next to a Federal 1k primer box and it is neither as wide or a tall at the Federal packaging...I'm guessing about 60% the volume of the Federal 1k box. It is interesting that they pack the primers in the tray on edge just like the Federal primers, they just don't leave as much room between individual primers.

Primer flipper tray as a go between?
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I tried them in a round Hornady tray and a square FA tray and the tray of primers barely fit. I think the whole outer rows were riding the edge of the flipper tray.

However, the 150 tray fits perfectly in the Lee primer tray...the one that folds into a triangle
 
Walkalong said:
Mine is sig required as well, not unusual, don't know about the Fedex driver. The UPS drive could care less about a signature or where they leave a package.
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I ordered 2 cases of Unis Ginex from Midsouth Shooters Supply and Fed x handled them also. Like Epiphany said, two 5k boxes taped together inside another box.
I was supposed to sign for them and the package was late enough that we had the trackers out on it. When it finally showed up the lady runs up to the porch and throws the box on it, and runs to her truck and takes off. No signature.

We will see what happens when the 8 lb jug of BE-86 shows up today. Wife has to go to office for a Joint Commission inspection this morning but should be home by noon. I have to work all day.

Estimated delivery is between 11:30a and 3:30p so she should be there when it's delivered unless Fed X loses it again. I'll be watching my door bell camera. Supposed to be 2 day delivery for Hazmat items, but doesn't seem to work out that way.
The only thing Fed x was on time with was my Walther I sent back for work. It came two-day delivery and was on time.

I've been watching American and Republic Reloading for Unis Ginex primers, I haven't seen them in stock for a while now.
 
My powder from Midsouth is supposed to come tomorrow via FedEx w/"direct" signature required. It'll be first time I've been home to sign in years--don't like being tethered to house--used to pick it up from the hub. But memory says it was UPS, not FedEx.

I vaguely recall a conversation here a couple years ago about fedex eliminating the "indirect" signature for hazmat. You could sign electronically and they'd drop it on porch. Maybe the drivers doing that today are living in the past.
 
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I got some Fiocchi primers loaded in 9mm with my G34 load of 115 gr Xtreme plated + 4.4 gr HP38. This is lighter than I load for Colt and SA, but I was shooting the STI Eagle today. Fiocchis gave substantially lower velocity than WW in my STI; 1065 fps vs 1110. That load with WW primers runs 1152 fps in long "polygon" barrel of G34.

But they all went off and even at sub-minor, they fed, fired, and functioned. Easy enough to bump the load up when I get around to loading quantity Fiocchi.

Editorial comment:
See the differences, 45 fps difference by primer, 42 fps difference by gun. If you are shooting for power factor or for defense or defense practice, you need to know what your gun and ammo are doing.
The Garmin and forthcoming LX chronographs are handy, the less convenient ones they are displacing are going cheap, no reason not to have something.
 
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I recently had a distasteful experience with Fiocchi primers. I've been using them for a lot of years now and recently I had two sleeves of primers that had 15 "failures to fire" in the 300 that I loaded.
Talk about irritating.
I have about 4000 empty cases already primed with Fiocchi's, between the LNL-AP and the Lee App deluxe. They are working fine so far, same as always.

I didn't do anything differently with the last two sleeves at all.

Same method, same priming machines, same gun, same shooter(me). First time I've had primers that wouldn't go off. I took the duds home and checked primer depth, and they were primed about .003" under flush.

I tried to shoot them in my Shield which shoots everything I put in it. Some went off and some didn't.

So far, the same gun (Walther Pro SD with stock striker spring), and the same shooter (me), have had no problem with any of the other three bricks of Fiocchi's primers I had. I've been shooting Fiocchi's for about 10 years now and have been very happy with them.

I've been on a Unis Ginex kick for a short time now. They are softer than the last batch of Fiocchi primers I got but I haven't shot enough of them yet to get read on their quality. I know I had an upsidedown primer and just pushed it out like I always do and it looked like it had been fired by one of my Walthers when I picked it up. I can't say I've pushed out any other primer and left a dent like that in it.

I was disappointed with the Fiocchi's but at the same time, I expect that to happen from time to time with today's current production always being way behind due to shortages.
Right now, I'm just glad I have primers.
 
When you break them down to inspect, make sure the anvil and primer pillow is there. Over the years I've run across primers that were new missing the anvil. I've only had maybe 1-2 that did not have the primer pillow. When I dump the primers into flip tray is when I check for anvils. Going off on 2nd or 3rd strike normally indicate not fully seated, but you know that.

Frustrating I know.
 
Jim Watson said:
Fiocchis gave substantially lower velocity than WW
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I loaded some 124 gr Bayou coated 9mm, my usual bullet, with those mild Fiocchi primers.
I only had to increase the charge by 0.2 grain of HP38 to get back in line with Federal and WRE.
I will put a note on the box of Fiocchis so i will know to adjust when I start using them regularly.

I read on the Glock board of crooked anvils in Federal primers, so I opened the case, inspected a tray, and loaded them up. Normal.
 
tightgroup tiger said:
I recently had a distasteful experience with Fiocchi primers. I've been using them for a lot of years now and recently I had two sleeves of primers that had 15 "failures to fire" in the 300 that I loaded.
Talk about irritating.
I have about 4000 empty cases already primed with Fiocchi's, between the LNL-AP and the Lee App deluxe. They are working fine so far, same as always.

I didn't do anything differently with the last two sleeves at all.

Same method, same priming machines, same gun, same shooter(me). First time I've had primers that wouldn't go off. I took the duds home and checked primer depth, and they were primed about .003" under flush.

I tried to shoot them in my Shield which shoots everything I put in it. Some went off and some didn't.

So far, the same gun (Walther Pro SD with stock striker spring), and the same shooter (me), have had no problem with any of the other three bricks of Fiocchi's primers I had. I've been shooting Fiocchi's for about 10 years now and have been very happy with them.

I've been on a Unis Ginex kick for a short time now. They are softer than the last batch of Fiocchi primers I got but I haven't shot enough of them yet to get read on their quality. I know I had an upsidedown primer and just pushed it out like I always do and it looked like it had been fired by one of my Walthers when I picked it up. I can't say I've pushed out any other primer and left a dent like that in it.

I was disappointed with the Fiocchi's but at the same time, I expect that to happen from time to time with today's current production always being way behind due to shortages.
Right now, I'm just glad I have primers.
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Very strange. Payday Friday afternoon production? Or Monday morning after a payday Friday?
 
Blue68f100 said:
When you break them down to inspect, make sure the anvil and primer pillow is there. Over the years I've run across primers that were new missing the anvil. I've only had maybe 1-2 that did not have the primer pillow. When I dump the primers into flip tray is when I check for anvils. Going off on 2nd or 3rd strike normally indicate not fully seated, but you know that.

Frustrating I know.
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I broke them down and some of the anvils were missing. I may have knocked them lose pushing them out, I don't know. I look for anvils when I'm filling primer trays for the APP deluxe or if I'm filling primer tubes for my LNL-AP.
I did try these loads in my Smith &Wessons before I broke the loads down, and half of them still didn't go off.

I did read that the Walther PDPs may have firing pin problems, and the problems are in the light strike category. Gunk gets in the striker channel and causes light strikes.

I didn't ask Walther about it, they wouldn't admit it anyways.

The PDP was the first attempt to shoot these rounds, the S&W was the second attempt. I've never made a round that my Shield wouldn't shoot, until now. Big firing pin, big dent (compared to Walther's)
That was what worried me. The Shield wouldn't shoot them off.

I did take the PDP apart and cleaned out the firing pin channel.
I haven't been able to get to the range to try it though.

Fiocchi's have always had a really good record with me, and this won't keep me from buying them again if I get a good deal on them.
 
tightgroup tiger said:
I recently had a distasteful experience with Fiocchi primers. I've been using them for a lot of years now and recently I had two sleeves of primers that had 15 "failures to fire" in the 300 that I loaded.
Talk about irritating.
I have about 4000 empty cases already primed with Fiocchi's, between the LNL-AP and the Lee App deluxe. They are working fine so far, same as always.

I didn't do anything differently with the last two sleeves at all.

Same method, same priming machines, same gun, same shooter(me). First time I've had primers that wouldn't go off. I took the duds home and checked primer depth, and they were primed about .003" under flush.

I tried to shoot them in my Shield which shoots everything I put in it. Some went off and some didn't.

So far, the same gun (Walther Pro SD with stock striker spring), and the same shooter (me), have had no problem with any of the other three bricks of Fiocchi's primers I had. I've been shooting Fiocchi's for about 10 years now and have been very happy with them.

I've been on a Unis Ginex kick for a short time now. They are softer than the last batch of Fiocchi primers I got but I haven't shot enough of them yet to get read on their quality. I know I had an upsidedown primer and just pushed it out like I always do and it looked like it had been fired by one of my Walthers when I picked it up. I can't say I've pushed out any other primer and left a dent like that in it.

I was disappointed with the Fiocchi's but at the same time, I expect that to happen from time to time with today's current production always being way behind due to shortages.
Right now, I'm just glad I have primers.
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I had pretty much same problem you experienced with Fiocchi but at the time I was just glad to have primers. I am currently using Unis Ginex SP& LP primers and have not had one failure to fire , like you I do find they are a little softer. I am going to keep using them until domestic ones become more reasonably priced.
 
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