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American Rifleman black list.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Wonder9, Jan 4, 2006.

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  1. Wonder9

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    I seem to remember years ago American Rifleman posted a list of companies that were gun un-friendly. Does anyone have this list or is there an updated list?
     
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    Dang that's funny

    - they list the BATFE!!!
    CT
     
  4. phantomak47

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    Wait......Aerosmith is on the list.....Yet they are very very good friends of Ted Nugent and they are big time gun owners..anyone know anythign about this???
     
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    Paul Newman!
    Robert Redford!
    Richard Dean Anderson!
    Sean Connery!
    Matt Damon!
    Danny De Vito!
    Eli Wallach!

    THESE WERE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ACTORS!!!!!!!!:banghead: :cuss: :fire: HOW COULD THEY BETRAY ME!?!!?!?!??!?!?! I'm gonna go to my room now & cry.:(
     
  6. CentralTexas

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    Probably has to do with them accepting permits to carry in NEW YORK CITY that mortals can't get? Just a thought, or maybe that every album since Permanant Vacation sucks? Ballads like they churn out now? Who knows?;)
    CT
     
  7. Mizzle187

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    I was watching the TV show Smith & Wesson a week or so ago and they where at the S&W Performance Center Plant. The head of the PC even stated that they had made many many PC guns for all of the members from Aerosmith upon their request. So thats not right!
     
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    Who cares anymore?

    If you want to personally "boycott" or maintain a black-list of every single person, organization, company or business that at one time or another has in any way, shape or form indicated even a mildly anti-gun political stance -- I submit that you'd better be prepared to: spend all your free time reseaching companies' and entertainers' politics, quit wearing Levi's, stop shopping at Safeway, quit drinking any beer except that swill Budweiser, restrict your TV viewing to re-runs of Magnum, P.I., stop going to any movies at the cinema whatsoever, cancel your Blockbuster membership and develop a fondness for country music ...

    If we really cared about any of this, we'd all have stopped buying Smith & Wesson and Ruger products long ago.
     
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    I wish that list would contain explaination along with it because there are a few on there that make me just go HUH?:confused:
     
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    "If we really cared about any of this, we'd all have stopped buying Smith & Wesson and Ruger products long ago."

    I've never bought either of their products. If I wanted a revolver I'd go to Colt or Taurus. If I wanted a shotgun, I'd go Mossberg. If I wanted a rifle, I'd save up for a Shiloh Sharps aka "the Quigley". If I wanted a semi-auto pistol, I'd get a Glock or Colt.
     
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    Interesting site. I just love the list of celebrities...Of course they won't object to "the message that they are sending" by using guns in movies that they are paid millions of dollars to star in. Their anti-gun stance only goes so far I guess...
     
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    American Bar Association
    American Civil Liberties Union

    Uhhh... that seems like a misnomer to me. Why would the ABA be anti-gun? Isn't that like 90% of their business :p And the ACLU, let's look at that name "Civil Liberties". That's a contradiction.


    Upon further inspection, there are A LOT of contradictions. Actors that are anti-gun, yet continuosly play in roles where guns are a major factor. Some I can understand from past media coverage, others I can't wrap my mind around. Take David Duchovny as an example. He spent 9 years toting around a gun as an FBI agent in X-Files and he's anti-gun. Benjamin Bratt, did how many years as a NY cop in "Law & Order" and now plays a Lt. on "E-Ring". Spike Lee?! Weren't most of his movies about gangs and guns in the early 90's, and I don't think any of them were about a positive spin on guns. Willie Nelson?!?!?!
     
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    The ACLU isn't really pro- or anti- gun. They focus on especially the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 14th and 15th amendments. 2nd amendment issues are dealt with by other organizations. Why this is, I don't know, but we need both perspectives, and I don't require them to be in the same organization. As long as all the bases get covered, I don't care how it's done.

    The ABA's position doesn't really matter to me. As long as there are lawyers who will take both sides of a gun case and advocate thier client's position to the best of their ability, I don't care what their professional organization does. I wonder if they got that rating by contributing to anti-gun Democrats, or for giving more money to the DNC than to the RNC. That's not evidence of anti-gun bias. It's just smart business for an organization of lawyers. The Republican party likes certain kinds of lawyers, sure, like prosecutors, and tax attorneys ;-> but the GOP platform includes things like tort reform that would make a whole bunch of lawyers miss their BMW payments if they became law, so the ABA goes with the Dems. Simple math.

    As to anti-gun actors taking gun-heavy roles in movies, well, money talks. Apparently they feel that their principles aren't violated by the contradiction. I'm not sure I agree, but it's not my call. I don't even get a vote. And that's as it should be.

    --Shannon
     
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    And you have to consider that a lot of these prominent people in government, entertainment, and sports see no contradiction in THEM having guns while limiting your rights. They are, after all, special.
     
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    Personally, it makes me wonder how many of them really give a darn about the issue, and how many were looking for a politically correct tax write-off. Yes, you can blame them for supporting the cause, but think about it. in Hollywod, liberals are the rule, not the exception. You are an actor in Hollywood. You need to fit in to stay employed, you need to make charitable contributions for tax purposes. You need liberal causes to support. So, you break out the check book and write a $500 check for the cause when Rosie or whoever asks for your support. Not too many have the power of a Tom Selleck or John Millius to say what they want to say and stay gainfully employed in the industry. Not that this is an excuse, but it is understandable.
     
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    When it comes to black lists I only care about charities. I don't want to be giving money to a charity earmarked for social help of some kind and have it end up as funds for anti-gun crap.I don't give a damn about what most celebs think, but I do respect Charlton Heston for his NRA work. When it comes to most Hollywood types my motto is: If they condone it, I condemn it.
     
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    Okay, let's see... I don't wear Ralph Lauren or Tommy Hilfiger products because they were blacklisted in Blue Press. I quite wearing Levi's a LONG time ago. I don't drink beer- I'm allergic too it and it about turned my mouth inside out when I was 10 years old. I don't drink Wild Turkey because they're owned by a French holding corporation and Bill O'Reilly has that boycott of anything French. I switched to Jim Beam as I haven't heard anything bad about them yet, other than some people's complaints because they can't stand the thought of drinking likker that cost less than $40 a shot. I mostly watch the Outdoor Channel, FOXNews, and CMT. Grew up listening to Country music and Western music- those are two different things. And if you buy used Ruger's and used S&W's it didn't do those companies any good unless you had to buy parts from them, but you can get parts from Numrich.
     
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    "Janie's got a gun" sounds very much to me like an anti-gun song. Maybe that's why.

    The elite rich folks though think nothing of being able to hang out with guys like Nugent and fire weapons. They just don't want common folks having weapons. Like the class system in England. The lower classes are kept from owning firearms, the upper classes had them for hunting, etc. This was before the bans in Britain.

    That's the same reason they were banned in Japan centuries ago. The ruling Samurais did not want their subjects armed.

    I think this is the mentality movie stars and rock stars, some athletes have. It's ok for them to have them, not for you and me.
     
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    After reading that list I cant watch cable, use a credit card, eat, wear cloths, get drunk, have insurance on a car, or whipe my a** ! Damn! There are alot of companies on that list that I give my money to for services and I wouldnt have anytime to shoot my guns if I tried to keep up with who is against what. Like someone said earlier I will personally boycott anti-gun charities but the rest Im gonna have to deal with for now for the most part!
     
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    Okay...Sounds good to me. Voting with your wallet is really the only effective tool that consumers have.
    I hate it when 'entertainers' think that by virtue of their audience appeal they suddenly have the expertise or knowledge that everyone wants to hear their opinion and hangs on their every word.
    Like Laura Ingram said I wish they would just "Shut up and sing"!

    </rant off>
     
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    The song is about a young woman shooting her molesting father.

    I haven't examined the lyrics but I think its more about that than anything else.
     
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    Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
     
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    That is exactly what the song is about. The onyl reason I know they(A-Smith) are or were as of a month ago, pro-gun, is becuase of that S&W show. Custom made PC's! Not bad!c:)
     
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