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Americas Deadliest City

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by rodinal220, Apr 21, 2013.

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  1. rodinal220

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    Those videos are well done.
     
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    Yes, they are very good videos. Unfortunately they drive home a truth that many of our liberal friends oppose despite the truth right in front of them. Rather than accept responsibility for the mess they created it is much easier to blame the gun. The liberal mind has always found it more convenient to blame something else for their failure to control a coarsening of the US culture they contributed to.

    Just My Take
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  4. Derek Zeanah

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    The NRA is really stepping up and getting their message out.

    We should support this. I've seen a New NRA these last couple of years. I hope we see more of it.
     
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    Great video. I think it really has a shot at reaching people who are ambivalent about gun control. I wonder how proud our president is of the city he helped build?
     
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    Compare Chicago and other similar high crime areas to places like Vermont, Montana, North Dakota. Guess what Chicago has that those low crime areas don't?

    A bumper crop of criminals!

    Gun laws or the lack thereof, have no impact on crime statistics, but the number of criminals do.
     
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    Very, very well done! THIS is what we need more of, showing the shambles our metro cities are in because of gang violence, and the administration's unwillingness to address it.
     
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    And they are attracted to cities with gun control, since they are not worried about the homeowner popping them. Criminals are much more afraid of home owners with guns than police with guns.
     
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    When I lived in California I saw the fallacy of the gun laws there when some 14 year old gang banger can walk down the street with a cheap 380 and act like he has autonomy to do what he wants, take what he wants, and kill whoever opposes him or his will. He knows no one is armed so he has power over everyone he sees. The situation is different in a state like WV where someone who acts like that would likely have a very short lived career as a criminal in a state where people can defend themselves, those they love, and their property. I believe in my heart good people should have a right to stand up for themselves against evil and when we do so as an armed society, evil will not prosper. That is why I love and support the NRA and I'll fight the other side with my every breath for as long as I can.
     
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    There was a ridiculous article in the Huff Post a while back about the most dangerous states for gun violence that didn't list a single anti state.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/states-gun-violence_n_3091993.html
    I think they used skewed statistics and omissions to get their data. At any rate I would sooner live in any of their top ten as I would one of the anti states.
     
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    Wow, X, the doublethink in that article is actually impressive. Wonder if the writer had to down a shot or two before submitting that to the editor? :scrutiny:

    Paraphrasing:
    "Gun violence is highest in areas that also have high property crime rates, but they should pass laws to reduce the amount of gun violence." That's right, they correlated gun violence with property crimes, and recommended gun laws as a solution to both :rolleyes:

    Best comment on the piece:
    "It's interesting how the political spectrum changes when you look at the CITIES that have the worst gun violence."
    A good question, indeed, especially as it applies to states with only a few large (crime-ridden) population centers--those areas don't typically have high legal gun-ownership or utilization anyway. I'd love to see a map or stats comparing rates of legal gun ownership to crime rates by community. I imagine it would reveal some interesting motives behind the "buyback" concept...;)

    TCB
     
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    That is how I like seeing my donations to the NRA used. That was a very well made clip of what's wrong with gun control in the big cities.

    As someone who lived near Chicago for 55 years and who worked in gang infested areas, what was written and said wasn't sensationalized. It was true. They have no fear of the law there. Good job, NRA. Keep it up.

    I'd have paid a small fortune to see Emmanuel's face when he first saw it. Better yet would have been the blowhard ex-mayor. His face would have turned beet red. Priceless!
     
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    Excellent job on getting the word out in a high-quality production video. Our message has always had weight, but the presentation matters too. Also, getting Colin Noir on board was a smart move. We need more pro-Constitution minorities to be in these ads.

    I've lived in the Chicago metro area for about five years. I can tell you first-hand that there are certain blocks in the South and West sides that it is a SHOCK if you DO NOT hear gunfire daily, and we're not talking from the indoor ranges. Some of the people most in need of guns are the ones that the liberals try to always pretend they speak for; women and minorities.

    Lets get more women and minorities as well us 'evil white man with gun' people in these ads. Being pro-Constitution on gun rights means that we need to build a broader tent to bring in the masses. I'm a 30 year old white male. Oh, and I own guns. According to some liberal outlets, that makes me one step away from being a KKK member. If the NRA keeps building a broader brush of all types of people from all walks of life, it will be MUCH harder for the anti-gunners to say that we need to ban guns for the safety of the minorities/women/children in the inner cities. Heck no! We need to be arming all law-abiding citizens, especially those in rough neighborhoods!
     
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    In recent years Chicago and the Illinois welfare system have been farming out their dysfunctional citizens to nearby states due to exploding costs.....essentially the Chicago criminal sewer is overflowing.

    Our County Attorney has been putting the Chicago criminal transplants away at an alarming rate.....seems the judicial system in Illinois is merely a "catch & release" program. The transplants are bewildered when they find out they're about to do hard time.
     
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    Every State steps on law abiding people rights to own a firearm IE Chicago NYC CA
     
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    Very interesting about the trains. In Chicago and in Cleveland they break into a lot of trains. It has gotten so bad in the South Side that they tell us in our time table not to walk our train if it goes into emergency. The police also spend a lot of time just watching trains. They have cameras, but no one really cares. I asked a van driver about the cameras and he laughed. The thieves just cover their faces...imagine that. :rolleyes:
     
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    Very nice and in a style that anyone can understand, time to go on the offense.
     
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    Dang those liberals are a happy lot!
     
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    Sorry, but Detroit has some pretty ridiculous gun control laws too. I would argue "demographics" aren't as big an issue as gangs. Most of the cities with the highest murder rates can attribute gang violence to a large portion of those deaths.
     
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    ^^ I would have thought gang participants count as a very relevant demographic group in themselves.
     
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    All that just proves what we are saying. Gangs are in the larger cities. They run the cities without fear. They aren't afraid of dying or being locked up for life... it's almost like a badge of honor to them. However, the crats disarm the citizens and the bangers all carry and are not afraid to use weapons. How is this gun control and how is this "common sense" laws? The only ones unarmed are the law abiding people. That is why the gangs run the cities... no fear.
     
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    Agreed on the video being top notch. Also, the NRA added three new commentators. Including Mr. Colion Noir (YouTube Personality), Dom Raso (former Navy SEAL) and Natalie Foster (Girls Guide to Guns) http://www.nranews.com/commentators

    Also, this editorial from CNN contributor LZ Granderson goes hand in hand with the NRA video. Mr. Granderson equates the gangs in Chicago to terrorists. And I have to agree with him on that.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/opinion/granderson-chicago-terror/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
     
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    Now what would make you think the Center for American Progress would do such a thing. Here is some of their focus points, who's founder was a former Clinton COS and is also affiliated with Obama;

    "Civil Rights, Social Action, Advocacy Research Institutes and/or Public Policy Analysis"

    Why would anyone think a report by them might contain inaccuracies or bias?

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    The problem is that they, along with others like the Southern Poverty Law Center get coverage in media outlets and before long it's on the Today Show and reported as fact.
     
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