Ammo shortage easing or not?

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I found this site a couple days ago during my regular perusing of reddit's gun related subs.

www.gunbot.net

Its an online ammo aggregator, shows PPR, total cost and Stock status from a bunch of online ammo dealers. Still under development but a valuable resource during times like these.
 
Had this on e-mail notification with Midway. E-mail came through at 7:03, but I was out until 12:00 and missed my chance. Next order due in a month. No, I don't see this ammo situation getting any better.:mad:

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Walmart, I found out from a friend of mine who just made assistant manager, is not upping their orders to meet demand. They are keeping their order amounts the same they were before the panic. So it's not that it's not coming in. It's that everyone is snatching it up as it comes in.
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I would agree with that.

I stop by Walmart a couple of times a week in the morning as I get off the night shift. Talked to the clerk on the sporting goods and he said there are like 9 people waiting in the morning to see what ammo they have coming in, and that is before I get there at 730am.

Its not easing up anytime soon, and not until people calm down with panic buying. We have to let the supply catch up with demand, and be patient for the meantime.
 
Dick's Sporting Goods is now rationing ammo - 3 boxes per customer per day. I actually scored 3 boxes of 9mm there last week, after having visiting 4 or 5 times in the past month and come away empty handed.

So....no, the shortage isn't easing. I'm hearing unconfirmed rumors about manufacturers having already maxed out their 2013 capacity.
 
Dropped by Sportsman's Warehouse earlier this morning for things non shooting related, but thought I would check ammo section while I was there. It was even worse than I had expected. There were 4 boxes of 10mm available and that was it.

It's not getting any better that I can see.
 
ammo will be on the shelf for one day before its sold out. people are buying as fast as it can be stocked it seems
 
I can drop $1000 on ammo in a month easily. We shoot $250-$300 worth of .22 every month but can't o that right now because I would be out in two months or so. Throw in the AR, the AKs, the SKS, the hunting rifles and umpteen pistols and we blow through some ammo.

I can afford it with no problems and could afford to double what I spend. I am fortunate that money is not really an obstacle for me. Driving to every LGS twice a week as well as WM probably costs me that much in gas anyway.
 
jrdolall said:
I can drop $1000 on ammo in a month easily. We shoot $250-$300 worth of .22 every month but can't o that right now because I would be out in two months or so. Throw in the AR, the AKs, the SKS, the hunting rifles and umpteen pistols and we blow through some ammo.

I can afford it with no problems and could afford to double what I spend. I am fortunate that money is not really an obstacle for me. Driving to every LGS twice a week as well as WM probably costs me that much in gas anyway.
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So what's your point as it relates to this thread?
 
Demand's certainly still there locally. Shelves are bare and first 20min worth of people through the door at today's gunshow, those that waited an hour before opening to get in, all went straight to Georgia arms ammo/reloading. The line for one vendor clogged half a room. Prices still through the roof, one table wanted $1.40/round for M855 and folks where buying.
 
Zardaia said:
Demand's certainly still there locally. Shelves are bare and first 20min worth of people through the door at today's gunshow, those that waited an hour before opening to get in, all went straight to Georgia arms ammo/reloading. The line for one vendor clogged half a room. Prices still through the roof, one table wanted $1.40/round for M855 and folks where buying.
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THAT is ridiculous.

And stupid, really. Have these people not even heard of Gunbroker? It could be had for noticeably less on there, even.
 
As I noted in another thread yesterday, I haven't seen any ammo beyond shotgun in Walmart for weeks now. Went to Cabelas in KC yesterday; NO 22LR of any kind shape or color except Federal Birdshot....that's right, no bulk, no ELEY match, no Stingers, no Remington Subsonic, no Wolf, not even any 22shorts. No 22WMR either. They did have 9 mm and 223 mm in quantity; if you count MFS zinc-plated steel case....nothing else in both of those calibers. No 32ACP, No 380 ACP...none. They did have a few boxes of 45ACP, Remington, at 24.99. Couldn't bring myself to pay it but will probably regret that decision.
 
The LGS is only 2 miles away and there's always a hot pot of Coffee going, so I spend a LOT of time there (and buy a lot of guns).

Yesterday, for the hundredth time the manager said his distributors told him again "few guns and NO ammo is available".

Mostly the manager just tells the distributors, "Send me what you got".


I feel for the MANY people that come in asking for ammo, after trying to find it at MANY other places.


I hope people learn by this and in the future keep on hand a year or two stock of ammo.
 
I"m beginning to think there is more going on than meets the eye. I mean, if all this ammo is being made then it has to be somewhere to be bought, right?
But nobody is seeing any anywhere! How can that be?

Espcially 22LR. I see in a thread where CCI is making 4.4 MILLION rounds a day. If Remington, Federal, and a few others a doing that same number of just 22LR, where the heck is it being sold at?
 
Gun Geezer said:
I"m beginning to think there is more going on than meets the eye. I mean, if all this ammo is being made then it has to be somewhere to be bought, right?
But nobody is seeing any anywhere! How can that be?

Espcially 22LR. I see in a thread where CCI is making 4.4 MILLION rounds a day. If Remington, Federal, and a few others a doing that same number of just 22LR, where the heck is it being sold at?
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I don't know if we have actual numbers from any of the ammo manufactures that anyone can go on as fact. However, just taking the numbers Geezer gave on the 22lr CCI is producing, and taking a wild guess at the number of big chain, medium size and small mom and pop gun stores that exist in America (I used 50 stores on average in any state) you get to 2500 of them. Divide that by 4.4mil and that's only 1760 rounds, just over two and a half bricks per store.

That's not a lot when someone walks in and buys all the rounds a store has. Then the next person comes in and sees the shelf empty and the person behind the counter tells you that they are stripped off the shelf as soon as they get them out of the shipping box.

It's like a snake eating its own tail. If not for the panic buying I bet there would be a fairly decent supply in every store.
 
Ammo is definitely available at my LGS's. No 22LR of course and less 9MM than others.

Right now it is just a matter of "How much do you think you need it" and "How much are you willing to pay". Fortunately it's still very much winter here, so I'm not using much ammo and I don't really want to be shooting 50¢/round FMJ range ammo this summer if I can help it.

I did pick up a few boxes of Hornady CD 9MM yesterday for $20/box so I could cycle my SD ammo.
 
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I can drop $1000 on ammo in a month easily. We shoot $250-$300 worth of .22 every month but can't o that right now because I would be out in two months or so. Throw in the AR, the AKs, the SKS, the hunting rifles and umpteen pistols and we blow through some ammo.

I can afford it with no problems and could afford to double what I spend. I am fortunate that money is not really an obstacle for me. Driving to every LGS twice a week as well as WM probably costs me that much in gas anyway.

So what's your point as it relates to this thread?
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The "point" is that I , and many other people, can afford to buy ammo in large quantities at semi-ridiculous prices. I can "hoard" ammo if I want and pay twice what a working Joe can pay because I do not live paycheck to paycheck. Been there, done that and have the kids out of college to prove it.

For me the shortage is more of an inconvenience than a monetary issue. I like to pop in the LGS or WM and pick up a few bricks of .22 or 10 boxes of 9mm on Friday and we will shoot it up that weekend. I like to go online and order a case of .223 or 5.45 and shoot it over a month or so of weekend shooting. I can't do that right now because it is not available online OR at the LGS. I will run out of .22 for weekend shooting sprees before I pay these high prices I see on GB. Not because I can't afford it but because I am not crazy. These bricks of .22 are simply for shooting fun. I keep some other types for squirrels and small game but I have enough of that to last me 20 years.

And since when does a post need to stay on topic?
 
Warp said:
THAT is ridiculous.

And stupid, really. Have these people not even heard of Gunbroker? It could be had for noticeably less on there, even.
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I overheard a conversation, unscrupulous vendor selling to a newbie playing it up as high speed super fantastic AP ammo. Never trust a salesman, especially if you don't know much about the product.
 
As I noted in another thread yesterday, I haven't seen any ammo beyond shotgun in Walmart for weeks now. Went to Cabelas in KC yesterday; NO 22LR of any kind shape or color except Federal Birdshot....that's right, no bulk, no ELEY match, no Stingers, no Remington Subsonic, no Wolf, not even any 22shorts. No 22WMR either. They did have 9 mm and 223 mm in quantity; if you count MFS zinc-plated steel case....nothing else in both of those calibers. No 32ACP, No 380 ACP...none. They did have a few boxes of 45ACP, Remington, at 24.99. Couldn't bring myself to pay it but will probably regret that decision.
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I was at the same store at closing time last night. They also had Tula/Herter's 7.62x39 @ $7.49 per 20.
 
You don't need that ammo. Hell, you might put an eye out! Just be quiet and get in the cattle car. Work will make you free!
 
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