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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by DustyGmt, Oct 4, 2019.

  1. GBExpat

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    Actually, in the '60s that was for the name-brand "high velocity" stuff. It wasn't until we were well into the '70s that I really became familiar with both the 500rd bricks and the off-brand stuff like Imperial and Herters ( I spent most of the '70s with centerfire).

    Also, in the '60s, the name-brand high-velocity .22LR hollow-points didn't open up worth a poot. Something that I just now remembered. :)
     
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  2. George P

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    I used to regularly buy bricks for $7-$8 bucks; it let me let me kids shoot a lot without major costs troubles.
     
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  4. JTHunter

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    OMG !! :what:

    As for .22 bricks, part of the .22LR ammo I have are 4 bricks of Winchester Wildcat (40 gr. LRN) purchased in the late 90s for $10/brick.
     
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  5. 22-rimfire

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    In the 60's and 70's, I didn't consider Remington Golden Bullets promotional grade or their predecessor, Kleanbore. I was always satisfied with it's performance and actually preferred it over others in those days. This business of all the duds really started when the box size went to 100 rounds for Remington (those yellow plastic boxes) and more so when bulk packs became common. This was stuff produced by Remington in the late 90's and early to mid 2000's as best I can figure time-wise for the commonality of duds..

    Winchester Wildcats were promotional grade ammo, but it was pretty good overall. Winchester went down hill in their 22 rimfire (especially 22LR) quality just like Remington.

    The shortages were somewhat self inflicted as far as I'm concerned except for the post-Sandy Hook shortage. My theory is that the major 22 rimfire manufacturers really didn't increase production so much as to make production cheaper with the bulk packs and the QA/QC slipped. Back in the day, most people didn't shoot 500 rounds of 22 ammo in an outing like is common now. I thought a brick (500 rounds) as a lot of ammo then. In addition, semi-auto 22 rifles were becoming the preferred action type by the late 60's. and took off in the 70's (baby boomer demand). So, when you would go to the store to buy a few boxes of 22LR ammo to shoot for the day or the week, now those few boxes were bulk packs and you were picking up more than 1,000 rounds at a time. So, when the supply-demand thing hit a bump, people had already been conditioned to buy a 1000+ rounds as being "normal" when in fact it was not normal at all historically. Production capacity had probably not changed much >>> hence shortage! Toss in some politics and panic.... shortage.

    Significant ammo caches started for regular shooters with the shortage prior to Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook and Obama were icing on the cake.
     
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  6. DustyGmt

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    True, but I've started to stock JHP's based on the fact that I know I will not shoot them, I've had a bad habit of shooting through what I want to save. So I buy generic winchester JHP when I find it or other brands if I find a good deal. I just need to be more disciplined about saving what I want to save but in the meantime I dont think having a boatload of JHP is necessarily a bad thing...
     
  7. 22-rimfire

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    As far as JHP ammo caches, I see no problem and I don't think it's a bad thing if you shoot. I seldom shoot centerfire "target ammo" because it doesn't hit the target the same as the higher priced ammo that you might "sight your gun in with". I am way past shooting just to hear the boom or feel the recoil.
     
  8. CoalTrain49

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    I'm there. I don't want piles of ammo everywhere. If I sell a firearm and no longer have a need for a particular cartridge what will I do with the ammo. Bullets are easy to sell, second hand ammo, not so much.
     
  9. CoalTrain49

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    For people who don't reload, it's calibers. For reloaders it's cartridges. Common misuse of the terms but mostly because of a lack of familiarity with components, like different cases and bullets.

    It's all just hamburger to me. ;)
     
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  10. CoalTrain49

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    Don't go there!

    Closure ahead.
     
  11. bannockburn

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    I can remember when we use to go out on a friend's property out in the country and spend the day just plinking and target shooting with our .22s. When we ran out of ammo we would just drive into town and pick up a couple of boxes of Remington Kleanbore for 50 cents a box at the local general store. Their quality was very good in those days and we rarely had a problem with any of them; accuracy was pretty decent too.

    Last "good buy" that I had on .22LR ammo was when I found Wolf Match Target at $3.49 a box at a gun show. Had my credit card with me and bought all that the vendor had (10 bricks total)!
     
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  12. GBExpat

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    I am pretty sure that is what we bought/used when we were kids. During a summer vacation visit to the farm, here, when my cousin & I ran out of .22 ammo we would have to scrape together at least 50¢ (and that changed during my childhood with the advent of the new Excise Tax :mad:) hop on the bikes and ride the ~2 hill-laden miles to the little rural store for more. If we had enough money we could treat ourselves to a couple of ice-cold Cokes in bottles that we would pull out of the ice+water top-door cooler in front of the store. Remember those? :)

    Good to hear, thanks. Dad had 500rd bricks of Imperial, Herters and Winchester Wildcat in his kit when left us. I have shot some of the first two types long ago but have never shot any of the Wildcat.

    O'course, the youngest that any of these bricks can be is probably over 30 years. 22-rimfire, any idea when the Winchester Wildcat bricks were first offered for sale? The reason that I ask is that I do not think that Dad bought any ammunition after about 1988.
     
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    Do I ever! My uncle use to work at a gas station where the owner had the world's (at least in our small world!), best selection of candy and the iciest cold water in a top door pop cooler! I could never figure out how the water would stay so cold but never freeze up!
     
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  14. 22-rimfire

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    As kids in the country, we used to pick up pop bottles to turn in for the deposit. That money was mostly used for Cokes. Back in those days, I remember RC Cola as being really good, but as I got older Coke took over that spot. We used to go through "private dumps" (usually in the woods) looking for pop bottles, wash them, and then turn them in. Those were also great places for some serious plinking with 22's back then. That is where you learn such things as 22LR just barely penetrating refrigerators and so forth and sometimes bouncing off. Just about anything in the dumps were fair game for kids shooting 22's.
     
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  15. Benp

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    Buy it cheap and stack it deep.

    Learn it and live by it. It all adds up.
     
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  16. DustyGmt

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    I like the backdrop of Jerry Miculeks youtube vids he does in his workshop. It's about a gazillion boxes of different ammo that he doesnt even consider. Lol. I want to own it all, he probably wishes someone would just throw it away.....
     
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  17. 22-rimfire

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    Just noticed a whole stack of 50cal metal ammunition boxes in my garage. The garage is pretty cluttered and stuff goes missing for years. Need to check those boxes out. The garage is sort of my "warehouse' that I work out of and only one car gets parked in the garage (wife's).
     
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  18. 460Shooter

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    Gunny, you're going to throw off the Earth's rotation and tilt pretty soon if you keep this up.
     
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  19. Basura Blanca

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    I used to justify stockpiling ammo the way I justified stockpiling other consumer goods, for instance toothpaste; you'll always need it, it doesn't spoil, so why not just have a ton on hand? The problem is ammo isn't really in the same league (heresy to utter on a gun forum, I know).

    Last summer I moved some boxes of gear from the dark depths of our garage to a nicer, finished outbuilding. In one of them, mostly camping gear, there was several boxes of 9mm Norinco along with quite a bit of of those old all plastic hull Activ 12 ga rounds. None of that stuff had seen the light of day for decades. To me, it was a testament to going crazy at every ammo sale I ever crossed. There is a point where it's not practical to keep buying it. YMMV.
     
  20. huntsman

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    I have a 520 sqft gun room so that’s my limiting factor, but at my age filling it isn’t even a dream anymore.

    If you’re building sheds for “stuff” you might just have a problem ;)
     
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  21. Texas10mm

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    When we moved to Texas we went from a 1400 sq/ft house to a 2500 sq/ft house with a 3 car garage. I built a 30x60 shed for my "stuff". Boat, truck, fishing gear, workshop, and such. Now that it's cooled off I'm going to round up some help and frame in a 8x20 portion for my bullet casting, lure making, and reloading. The best part is it will be climate controlled!
     
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  22. 22-rimfire

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    I agree and you have to make that decision yourself. Depends on your ammo consumption more than anything. If they put $15-$20 bulk packs of 22LR on sale tomorrow for $8-$10 each, I wouldn't buy any. I still have 22 ammo from the 80's that is waiting to be shot.

    Added: That said, the old 22 ammo is primarily used for testing new firearms, but I do use it for plinking fodder too. A few duds don't bother me. Lots of duds and I only shoot that ammo from revolvers or bolt action rifles. I just don't plink like I used to. Probably need more friends.
     
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  23. DustyGmt

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    4 out of 5 dentist recommend Crest. 10 out of 10 liberal dems want to (insert infringement here).

    As the adage goes.... Better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
     
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  24. CoalTrain49

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    Judging from the posts so far we will have another ammo shortage next year :(

    It's the I don't need it until I do syndrome. Happens before every hurricane.
     
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  25. GunnyUSMC

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    That’s the plan. Updated pic of most of my ammo stash.
    Pistol and 22 ammo in the closet and rifle and shotgun ammo in the regular storage area. And there’s more in a few other places.
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