Ammo vending machine.
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Waitone
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Can you imagine the reaction among professional blissninnies?
Oh, the humanity of it all! Baby killing bullets available to one and all!
We'd have mass faintings throughout the US. Feinstein would swoon. Schumer would grin and grab a TEC. Rosie O would demand a concession to keep her body guard properly armed. MMM would have a march.
The social chaos would simply be too high. We must stiffle your idea. It is entirely too dangerous for our society to tolerate it.
You, you with the idea. Report to your closest reducation camp. These thoughts of capitalism must be corrected.
Oh, the humanity of it all! Baby killing bullets available to one and all!
We'd have mass faintings throughout the US. Feinstein would swoon. Schumer would grin and grab a TEC. Rosie O would demand a concession to keep her body guard properly armed. MMM would have a march.
The social chaos would simply be too high. We must stiffle your idea. It is entirely too dangerous for our society to tolerate it.
You, you with the idea. Report to your closest reducation camp. These thoughts of capitalism must be corrected.
Teufelhunden
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This type of machine could sell ammo with no modifications whatsoever. Perhaps the key to making sure ammo is not illegally obtained would simply be placement of the machine. For example, I know there have been times I've left the range simply because I ran out of ammo before I ran out of desire to shoot. An ammo dispenser placed behind the firing line in easy access to the shooters would have kept me there and generated a fair amount of revenue for the range owner. Access to the ammo would be restricted simply because it's on the range, which is populated by people who obviously can legally obtain ammunition.
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another okie
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I belong to Red Castle Gun Club in Tulsa. The vending machine that sells pop and candy bars there also sells .22 lr boxes. It works fine. The club does have a gate, and the machine is in the locked clubhouse, so I guess the security concerns are not a big problem.
Crewchief: I understand your concerns, but as you can see you are a little late in claiming to own the idea. Besides, you can't really "own" or "steal" an idea. To the extent ideas can be protected at all they must be patented, not copyrighted. You cannot protect a patent by just saying "it's mine" as you can with copyright. If you truly want to pursue this as a business opportunity you need to see a lawyer that specializes in intellectual property and be prepared to lay out some cash. I hope it works out. It would be great to see more vending machines like that.
There are different types of intellectual property. You could copyright an ad for the machines. You could patent a new type of machine that sells ammo. You could trademark a cute name for the business. But ideas themselves are very hard to protect in our legal system. That's why to be successful you have to do the work yourself. Bill Gates didn't get rich from writing the code for Windows, but by making and selling the product.
Crewchief: I understand your concerns, but as you can see you are a little late in claiming to own the idea. Besides, you can't really "own" or "steal" an idea. To the extent ideas can be protected at all they must be patented, not copyrighted. You cannot protect a patent by just saying "it's mine" as you can with copyright. If you truly want to pursue this as a business opportunity you need to see a lawyer that specializes in intellectual property and be prepared to lay out some cash. I hope it works out. It would be great to see more vending machines like that.
There are different types of intellectual property. You could copyright an ad for the machines. You could patent a new type of machine that sells ammo. You could trademark a cute name for the business. But ideas themselves are very hard to protect in our legal system. That's why to be successful you have to do the work yourself. Bill Gates didn't get rich from writing the code for Windows, but by making and selling the product.
mvpel
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Snapple machines drop glass bottles from 3-4 feet - it's just a design issue.
sturmruger
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My favorite idea is the one with the ammo contained in a bulk container.
It would be hard to put these machines in ranges that are regularly staffed. They want to sell you there ammo and won't be too interested in you buying differant ammo. There are allot of ranges that are not staffed, these machines might be a good idea for them.
It would be hard to put these machines in ranges that are regularly staffed. They want to sell you there ammo and won't be too interested in you buying differant ammo. There are allot of ranges that are not staffed, these machines might be a good idea for them.
For some more feedback, I'm going to drop this idea at The Half-Bakery. Let's see what those crazies have to say about it.
Edit: Okay, here it is: Link
I refrained from mentioning this thread or The High Road, since I wasn't sure it would be okay to run the risk of attracting madmen to this forum. This idea is a little out of the mainstream for THR. Just don't think I'm trying to hijack the idea.
One more thing, are there laws regarding flammable/explosive objects in vending machines? I've seen matches and lighters in machines, but I'm not sure if ammo or primers would be problematic.
Edit: Okay, here it is: Link
I refrained from mentioning this thread or The High Road, since I wasn't sure it would be okay to run the risk of attracting madmen to this forum. This idea is a little out of the mainstream for THR. Just don't think I'm trying to hijack the idea.
One more thing, are there laws regarding flammable/explosive objects in vending machines? I've seen matches and lighters in machines, but I'm not sure if ammo or primers would be problematic.
The Undertoad
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Good idea, I would love to see this implemented. Hate it when you run out of .45 at the range and the nearest place you know of to buy is a 45 minute drive. 
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LiquidTension
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They have beer vending machines on the side of the road in Japan. Totally off topic, but interesting anyway.
Missouri Mule
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"Thanks for the hardball..Mckey!".
Sorry folks, but it was looking like nobody was gonna do it.
And, it just had to be done.....
If it has to be explained your better off not knowing!
Sorry folks, but it was looking like nobody was gonna do it.
And, it just had to be done.....
If it has to be explained your better off not knowing!
sm
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Well we have vending machines that sell fish bait here in AR.
Cricketts, redworms, nightcrawlers, wax worms, and whatever that worm is simialr to the wax worm is.
These are like the ones in a snack bar, with the refrigde , shelf dealie. ( Sandwiches , milk and such). Fisherman shows up in wee hours before bait shop opens, next to the soda maching, gets a soda , bait and ready to go. Even hooks, bobbers and such.
I understand the legal deaile ( don't like or agree) , but hey, seems like a great way to manage time and employee/customer service. If I want a box of ammo, and I know what I want, let me get it.
Allow the gun behind the counter to make a sale on a gun, keep an eye on range, whatever. Time mgmt, for both of us. Especially for once a fella is signed in. Needs a box of 22lr, 9mm, 38 spl, 45ACP. MOre popular ammo, ear plugs, small bottle of lube...sounds like a great idea to me.
Works for bait, sandwiches, sodas, popcorn, aspirin...
Cricketts, redworms, nightcrawlers, wax worms, and whatever that worm is simialr to the wax worm is.
These are like the ones in a snack bar, with the refrigde , shelf dealie. ( Sandwiches , milk and such). Fisherman shows up in wee hours before bait shop opens, next to the soda maching, gets a soda , bait and ready to go. Even hooks, bobbers and such.
I understand the legal deaile ( don't like or agree) , but hey, seems like a great way to manage time and employee/customer service. If I want a box of ammo, and I know what I want, let me get it.
Allow the gun behind the counter to make a sale on a gun, keep an eye on range, whatever. Time mgmt, for both of us. Especially for once a fella is signed in. Needs a box of 22lr, 9mm, 38 spl, 45ACP. MOre popular ammo, ear plugs, small bottle of lube...sounds like a great idea to me.
Works for bait, sandwiches, sodas, popcorn, aspirin...
SodaPop
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Technical error:
Excuse me... the primers could go off if something jammed or hit them. Not to mention if you didn't take the first box of ammo out before you made another selection.
MeekandMild
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Problems exist with temperature and humidity control.
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C'mon Bacchus tell us what you really think
I've thought about the idea myself for the indoor range at my gun club.
something like one of these soap vending machines.
http://www.econovend.com/cat/Imgs/cat2802.gif
smallish, doesn't drop anything, etc....
Something generally reliable and cheap like S&B would fit in them.
The main problems are weight of items, and accepting the cash for the relatively high priced ammo.
something like one of these soap vending machines.
http://www.econovend.com/cat/Imgs/cat2802.gif
smallish, doesn't drop anything, etc....
Something generally reliable and cheap like S&B would fit in them.
The main problems are weight of items, and accepting the cash for the relatively high priced ammo.
J.J.
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Regarding the credit cards and 18 bit. Well I have heard stories about someones 6 year old getting a credit application so...
sorry couldn't resist
sorry couldn't resist
BluesBear
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Do you think one box would set off another box?
Have you never seen somebody drop a box or ammo onto a concrete floor at a gunshow or gunshop?
What about all of that Georgia Ammo that's shipped all over the country in plastic bags?
It takes a well defined primer strike to fire a cartridge.
crewchief
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Trebor,
I was not actually talking about copyrighting the idea of a ammo vending machine but rather the designs of the machines I have described. I have drafted many designs in the past and have actually had some designs protected for my beniefit. I have spoken to many patent lawers before about other designs that I have, like I am currently in the process of patenting an aftermarket part I have designed for the 10/22. I am sorry if I sounded harsh to the members here, but I have had a-holes before steal a design of mine (blueprints and all) and try to claim it as thiers and market it because of my ignorance at the time and freely shareing information in a marketing sense. It is a harsh world out there if you ever happen to have a cleaver idea for a product and you want to bring it to market.
I was not actually talking about copyrighting the idea of a ammo vending machine but rather the designs of the machines I have described. I have drafted many designs in the past and have actually had some designs protected for my beniefit. I have spoken to many patent lawers before about other designs that I have, like I am currently in the process of patenting an aftermarket part I have designed for the 10/22. I am sorry if I sounded harsh to the members here, but I have had a-holes before steal a design of mine (blueprints and all) and try to claim it as thiers and market it because of my ignorance at the time and freely shareing information in a marketing sense. It is a harsh world out there if you ever happen to have a cleaver idea for a product and you want to bring it to market.
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