bdickens
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Because some people shoot a lot and it's cheaper to buy in bulk.
Maybe.
But it's not a Bill of Needs, it's a Bill of Rights.
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Because some people shoot a lot and it's cheaper to buy in bulk.
Maybe.
But it's not a Bill of Needs, it's a Bill of Rights.
Howland937
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After some thought, I believe the point the OP was getting at wasn't really intended as a slight toward anyone here. Seems like it's more along the line of ; If everyone here is still leaning toward their normal tendencies as far as ammo purchase and consumption (what you need to do what you do) Nothing on our end is being done any differently, so why are places running out of ammo? Who are the people hoarding ammo and what made them think they need to?
To which there are multiple options for answers, as have been previously touched on. Most likely "all of the above"
To which there are multiple options for answers, as have been previously touched on. Most likely "all of the above"
I used 3000 rounds in my first year of shooting and I got pretty good. I have a long way to go so I’m counting on burning another 3000 to get just good. You can never be too good and that takes lots of shooting.
I just talked myself into ordering bullets and primers.
I just talked myself into ordering bullets and primers.
mrmike7189
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I only buy ammo in 1,000 round cases. It is much cheaper that way. When I go to the range, I'll spend half a day there, shooting approx. 300 rounds a day. If I go 3 times in one month..............900 rounds =almost all my ammo is gone!
Thats why
Thats why
TomJ
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I had a credit with one of my LGS' and stopped in there yesterday to pick up a couple of Glock and Hi Power magazines. They definately see people stocking up and another customer told us that the local Cabela's shelves were pretty empty. I got back into shooting a number of years ago during one of the panics and either could not find what I needed and wanted or paid a premium for it. With the drop in ammo prices we've seen I stocked up over the last year with ammo and reloading supplies and am good for a while.
FFGColorado
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Yup..but like grocery stores, this is mostly a distribution problem, not a true supply problem. Ammo makers and food stuff makers will still make stuff. Trucks will still deliver..just a lot of 'on hand' stock has been depleted, but lots(for now) still in various 'warehouses'...
Panic will break the supply chain. I have been buy guns and ammo to stock up since the last panic. pre hording if you will.
Around here the wal marts in my area have a lot of bare shelves and they are closing early so they can restock.
My bank as of tomorrow will no longer have it lobby open. Drive up window and ATM`s only. have not seen a run on ammo around here
yet but I have not been out in a couple.
Around here the wal marts in my area have a lot of bare shelves and they are closing early so they can restock.
My bank as of tomorrow will no longer have it lobby open. Drive up window and ATM`s only. have not seen a run on ammo around here
yet but I have not been out in a couple.
There are about 3 groups of people, roughly about the same size. One third took this situation seriously but also already had some reserves just in case anyway to protect from uncertainty. If anything is to be learned about ammo and reloading supplies, it is uncertain and often faces supply shocks from external events--Russia invades Ukraine, worry about Russki ammo imports--panic buying, new mass shooting, people buy ammo, shortages appear. A certain segment of the public buys ammo as a response now to any uncertainty due to events because they are pretty well prepped in others.
Another third, are people that ignored the China situation thinking that it would not get here without really contemplating how easy and massive international travel is. Most of them thought it would just be like the flu and remembered the not so bad swine flu epidemic ballyhoed as the pandemic that would get you. New Orleans exhibited that nonchalance on hurricanes because of close misses that brushed to the left or right of New Orleans proper. Then Katrina happened. It is human nature, most anticipated troubles don't happen. The Spanish Flu epidemic was a century ago. SARS and MERS and even Ebola to some extent were viewed as happening to other people. Now, they are tuning in and shocked about how bad it is--these are the people buying whatever they can because they think it will disappear, then they compound the panic via social media. People hate to be left out of the bag. So they buy ammo, why? Because they fear public disorder. They may not know how to operate their Glock in a sock drawer but at least they have something to feed it. These are the folks that probably have house guns or a shotgun that hasn't seen oil nor attention in years. But a crisis like Katrina, 9/11, etc. sends them to buy ammo just in case.
The last third are the folks that believe consequences and events don't apply to them. Bad things from not being prepared happen to other people. These are the people that Aesop wrote about as grasshoppers in the Ant and the Grasshopper story. Nuff said about them.
You are setting yourself up here. To come on a site like this and question the decision making process of those who prefer to keep a substantial ammunition supply on hand , and suggesting that said folks just stop shooting for a while , is bound to elicit a response that you are not going to like. Also - please take into consideration that there are , in my opinion , political forces at work that want our daily lives to be interrupted and curtailed as much as possible - beyond that which is prudent or necessary for dealing with The Virus ; we are in a heated election cycle and the media clearly has an agenda. Suggesting that we declare a moratorium on recreational or proficiency shooting plays right into that.
If you are content with your ammunition supply , and you choose to refrain from shooting for a period of time in response to this public health crisis , fine. No one here will criticize that - or at least shouldn't ; it's your choice. You put yourself in the position of questioning others and suggesting that they stand down ; don't get all hurt by the push-back that is inevitable as a result of that positioning.
Trust thyself : every heart vibrates to that iron string. (Emerson)
bdickens
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It's a PANDEMIC, 
yet more people die in automobiles accidents over a long holiday weekend than have died from coronavirus so far.
yet more people die in automobiles accidents over a long holiday weekend than have died from coronavirus so far.
huntsman
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It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine, cause I gots mine
BSA1
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Interesting thought. However I think there are four groups of people not three.
The fourth group are people who no longer believes the media. Having endured three years of constant media attacks on President Trump and his policies the media has lost it’s credibility. Just like the story about the boy that cried wolf the false reports and outright lies by a media that is committed to removing President Trump anyway they can has resulted in a large group ignoring them.
I responded to a ambulance run last Thursday. The patient was a very
large man having breathing problems. He was way overweight, had large blood clots in his lower legs and was very pale. So it is only a matter of what ends up killing him...blood cot in his lower leg breaking free and causing a heart blockage, the complications of his diabetes, poor circulation from his heart or maybe some other preexisting condition. The Corona 19 may just be the final nudge to push him over the edge. Technically the cause of death maybe listed as the Corona 19 but in reality he was already at deaths door.
However according to the media and politicians if the Corona 19 doesn’t kill you the resulting economic collapse will.
One big thing that is not being widely reported is the fact the medical treatment for Corona 19 is exactly the same as for treatment of the flu. In other words it is as easily treated and cured as the Flu virus.
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The fourth group certainly exists or they are lagging in the middle group because the media has went to eleventy on every bump in the road for the last three years whereas in the previous occupant's era, it was chillax bros, he has it handled.
BSA1, did not know that you were in the medical field, I think you would find this useful.
Internet Book of Critical Care (IBCC)
https://emcrit.org/ibcc/covid19/
This is a concise summary of what we know so far of COV19, diagnosis, prognosis, and treatment, by an Assoc. Professor of Pulmonary Medicine at Univ. of VT medical school. Has citations linked to each section.
Much of it is above my head but some med folks say the guy is a respected known lung doctor. Might do you some good.
Well, noooo...
The president has been exposed as the only person in the U.S. who lies more than my ex-wife, but the media is in fine shape.
BSA1
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I am not a Doctor so I don't get to call treatment options. I completed a required medical course last week about precautions from the Corona 19. Basically it was just a refresher course on proper use of gloves, gowns, face masks and hoods and hand washing.
The best precaution is washing your hands frequently. For those treating patients washing hands before and after treating a patient and between medical procedures.
The best precaution is washing your hands frequently. For those treating patients washing hands before and after treating a patient and between medical procedures.
You would probably get the lingo though, where I had to look up some of the terms via googling. It gets pretty in the weeds but has useful info for loved ones of someone admitted to the hospital with this.
Try this perspective. An example. Don’t take it seriously.
Why do you have so much? Two shotguns, and both 12ga? How many shotguns can you use at one time? Three high caliber rifles? Again, how many can you use at one time? And besides that, those calibers are so close together that one isn’t really doing anything the other ones can’t. There’s no need hoarding that many rifles that all do basically the same thing. And, you want to add another in 308? Why? What does it do the other three don’t? You’re obviously some kind of gun nut to have that much firepower.
And you mention you have a bunch of ammo? All you need is one box of twenty rounds for one rifle. That should last a couple of years hunting deer. And one box of ammo for that automatic pistol, too. It’s not like your house is going to be under siege or anything. Besides, we all know bad guys run off when you rake the slide on your 12ga pump shotgun. Worst case scenario is you step outside and fire off one blast from your shotgun and your family is safe. Just like Vice President Biden said.
End of example.
Personally, the way I see it (my perspective), you’re grossly unprepared to defend your family. Unless you’re attacked by deer.
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