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Ammoman x39 prices. They only sell if people buy accept scalping.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ignition Override, Nov 7, 2008.

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  1. Ignition Override

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    Pardon the typo up there.
    Why would people pay much more than about $210 per thousand for 7.62x39?
    Their prices have jumped $50 in one week....because people can't control their fear?

    Did they assume last spring that Obama would never get elected? Apparently, many wanted to wait until after the election and then be sure that they are pushed into a dark corner.

    For many, it was their choice not to buy some in advance, all else (having a job with no major personal problems etc) being equal.
    A succesful seller always needs a buyer to say "That is acceptable".
    Ammoman lost me as a customer. For a while they were my favorite.
     
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  2. HorseSoldier

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    He doesn't ship to Alaska, so lost me as a customer a while back. Midway USA did the same thing, come to think of it . . .
     
  3. rangerruck

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    Academy is selling for 2.99 a box, and ammunitiontogo.com sells it by the case, for between 110. and about 130., depending on mfgr., for new.
     
  4. lowtech1

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    By case you mean 1k rounds? b/c theyre up there with ammoman.



    AM had it at $229 yesterday

    $249 now? Eeesh.
     
  5. Hoplophile

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    He's called Scammoman for a reason.
     
  6. rob_s

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    Funny how quickly so-called "conservatives" turn into socialists when capitalism hurts their own wallets.
     
  7. BADUNAME37

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    No more buying!

    If everyone would just stop buying all gun-related goods for some time, the prices would drop like a lead balloon - within a week, GUARANTEED!

    I purchased a couple bricks of primers I needed and 500 pills (bullets alone) that I needed, and I made a decision that I'm going to live with what I have.

    NO MORE GUN-RELATED PURCHASES FOR ME!

    And, I don't really have what one would consider a stockpile of ammunition, guns, etc. Heck, you could easily fit most, if not all of what I have into an upright gun safe (including my reloading stuff - that is if I wanted to unbolt the press from my workbench).
     
  8. hags

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    What does socialism have to do with anything in this thread? People are bitching about prices going up. The reason prices are shooting up is demand is high right now and dealers see they can raise prices and make more. The answer to that is...............

    Don't buy! When disreputable dealers have this stuff sitting on their shelves for a year or so the prices will drop quickly.
    I know most can't afford inventory to sit so it won't take that long.
     
  9. rob_s

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    Everything?

    Expecting a business to NOT get every cent of profit they can from every single transaction they can is a socialist (or communist, you pick) core idea.

    I believe there was also previously mention of "price gouging" (before people started editing posts) which is a non-existent concept in a capitalist market.

    Ammoman has the right to charge whatever he wants, and he will charge whatever the market will bear. People simultaneously make fun of those that didn't stock up early, and then bitch about the high prices it causes. If you stocked up early, what do you care what the price is today? You shouldn't be paying it, since you're all stocked up.
     
  10. CajunBass

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    Well, no. Not exactly. It's only socialistic or communistic if you expect the GOVERNMENT to step in and regulate prices for you. Until then it's just weaping, moaning, and gnashing of teeth.
     
  11. pbearperry

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    Nobody ships ammo or components to Massacrapsetts.Shooters are forced to buy locally.
     
  12. 1 old 0311

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    It ain't gonna get better kids. Should have bought months ago...........LOTS of us did.:neener::neener::neener::neener:
     
  13. benzy2

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    Honestly I think it is the best thing to happen in a while. Yeah prices right now suck but everyone is stocking up. Everyone is buying everything. The local stores are all basically empty. I can understand them raising prices. I won't buy from them because of it but I understand it. I will support the guy who keeps his prices where they are. Same thing when 9-11 happened. Only one gas station didn't raise prices. I have gone to them since. They were the only ones to not prey on the public's fear and I respect that.

    As for why I think this is good. One it brought us out of a really slow time in the firearm industry. I am fairly close with a few of the local stores and they were all complaining about slow sales. Many were sitting on a lot of inventory that they couldn't move. Some were selling below cost to pay bills that had come due. This past week has brought these same store back to life and that is a good thing. The second reason I think it is good is that I am stacked up on everything I need to shoot for a while. I figure by the time I am out of what I have everyone else will still be working on what they stored up on. Since relatively few will be buying prices will drop to at least what they were a week ago if not lower. I have heard that the next few shipments into the US are going to be cheaper than the last ones as well but I will have to see that when it happens. I just see us at a point where once this panic settles the stores are going to be again sitting on inventory they bought for the panic which is going to drop prices. If they don't drop, well thats how it goes and Im still going to shoot.
     
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    With more pressing matters on the table I don't think the new administration will focus on gun conrol or an AWB immediately.
    I think more than a few people will get burned by "fear" marketing. When no AWB has been announced a year down the road those same dealers will be sitting on some of these items for along time (in retail time).
    My sales have gone up, way up, but I don't rape people and I want them to come back.
    I think it's safe to assume the AWB will come up at some point. Most knowledgable people, my customers included know this. It doesn't make sense to run around announcing the sky is falling though.
     
  15. nathan

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    The reason prices go up bec of scams like this . Dont buy from this dealer. He is making a bad name for ammo dealers.
     
  16. drgrenthum

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    I am excited by all this. While i dont have a huge stock pile (600rds of 223, 300rds of .40 and 4 bricks of 22lr) I know that prices are going to drop like a rock in a few months.

    Right now every gun store is ordering in massive quanitities, trying to get as much inventory as they can possibly get to take advantage of the run. When the bubble burst alot of them are going to be left with alot of inventory sitting on their shelves. Some of the smaller outfits will panic and drop their prices to lower then ever so that they dont get caught with stuff they cant move. That is when i will step in and help them out. :)
     
  17. scarysuperd

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    I emailed wolf...this is what they wrote me back;


    I wrote

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    I would kindly request to know if there is a real shortage of 7.62 x 39, and
    what are the future shipments of this ammo into the USA before January.

    Thanks So Much Guys!

    -***


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    Dear ***,

    There is no shortage of this ammunition. Shipments have and will remain
    consistent.

    Sincerely,

    WOLF Ammunition


    _____________________________________________________

    That's honestly what was responded to my question.
     
  18. jackdanson

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    Just because you believe something should be legal, doesn't mean you condone it. Price gouging, though I don't have a legal problem with, is unethical. That means I can take my money elsewhere if I so choose.

    On the other hand, demand has skyrocketed, meaning people can legitimately raise prices. Ammoman may have had to hire in some temp help to get stuff out the door fast enough, meaning higher prices.

    Not a prob for me, I bought 2 weeks ago, when people were still claiming everything was going to be the same post-election.
     
  19. ilbob

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    The way things work in a free market is that when demand is up, prices go up. Perhaps they no longer teach real economics in high school these days.

    If a seller is pricing himself out of the market, people will stop buying from him.

    It will adjust itself in a few weeks.

    Keep in mind that the price of copper and lead is going down and that will push ammo prices down too.

    Give it a few months.
     
  20. james rogers

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    high prices

    Well...I do without when prices are too high or I groan and go ahead and pay the price. Theres no reason to blame anyone but myself if I am dumb enough to pay an inflated price like I sometimes I do. The deal is.. I always remember who I got a good deal from and who I didn't.

    If consumers stop giving these guys money starting immediately, some of them will feel the pinch quick and lower their prices,

    After the price comes down, what if we remembered and continued not to give them our money ?...now thats when they will really get the message.

    By the way I support anyones right to run prices up when they feel like they can get away with it.

    My right is to choose not buy from them and help them get away with it.

    SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
     
  21. Gun Slinger

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    Funny...nobody likes the idea of price escalation (call it "scalping" or "gouging" if you want) when the cost affects their pocket book.

    However, I suspect that if those doing all the whining and complaining were in the same business they would be doing the very same thing. The point of running a business is to make as much in the way of profit as is possible and there is nothing "un-American" about it. Being mad :cuss: at businesses for being successful, even in these difficult economic times, is not only absurd but it is also what being a Socialist is all about.

    james rogers makes an excellent point above-

    This is how the "free market" operates and the chief underpinning of the "free market" priniciple is that merchandisers charge for their goods what the market will bear for that particular commodity. Apparently, the market supported by the current conditions will support the pricing structure of more than $219/1000 rounds of 7.62x39. In two months, it may be better......or it may not.

    Don't like it ?

    Don't buy it !
     
  22. FourTeeFive

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    Ammunitiontogo seems to be a little higher than Ammoman, and I'm not sure if they have free shipping like Ammoman.

    Ammoman isn't even accepting any new orders for a couple of days. There's a notice on their website. Good problem to have for them!
     
  23. Gun Slinger

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    4T5,

    "A.T.G." charges separately for shipping.
     
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    Yep, you got it. I wouldn't say "drop like a rock" but they'll come back down. Funny thing is ammo prices were dropping and availability was going up. :(
     
  25. hags

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    I'm in the business and I haven't raised prices. The increase in volume is good enough for me. Most of these places raising prices were overpriced to begin with.
    You know what, people aren't so stupid, at least not gun buyers so I would expect them to shop elsewhere.
    I don't think people think that way and that's certainly NOT what socialism is all about.
     
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