No .22 in my closest WM or two LGS as of this morning. I will run short of 380 in about a month as I try to fire a couple of mags per week with my primary CCW and have never kept a lot on hand. I have enough 9mm to last quite a while and enough 38 to last a year. I don't shoot a LOT of .223 so I have enough to last several months at normal usage. I am really low on ammo for my AK-74s but ordered some from Graf's early this week and will be good if it shows. The .22 bothers me because we shoot it 10 to 1 over the others what with kids and AR conversion kits. Hopefully that round will resolve itself pretty soon or there will be a lot of happy hay bales for the next few months.
Ammos that are plentiful inspite of Ammo Scare
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Have not posted in a long while anyway the last week I have scoured several walmarts across NC, TN, AR, and OK...basically seeing the same thing....they all have been wiped with no bulk 22 whatsoever. Some 40SW and typical high end stuff but defineatly no 9mm or 45 ACP bulk.
This makes me sick and looks like target shooting is no longer a feasible hobby. Will have to downsize to a select few for hunting and personal protection. What ammo I do have is probably worth more than the guns. Anybody think I should bundle ammo with the gun ? Eg Taurus 1911 with maybe 500 rounds ? Im considering getting into reloading but will limit it to 9mm and 38/357...selling some stuff can fund some of the equipment and supplies. That and keepng my 22lr and 12 gaugee should suite my needs.
This makes me sick and looks like target shooting is no longer a feasible hobby. Will have to downsize to a select few for hunting and personal protection. What ammo I do have is probably worth more than the guns. Anybody think I should bundle ammo with the gun ? Eg Taurus 1911 with maybe 500 rounds ? Im considering getting into reloading but will limit it to 9mm and 38/357...selling some stuff can fund some of the equipment and supplies. That and keepng my 22lr and 12 gaugee should suite my needs.
Shooting can be much cheaper with reloading, particularly if you cast your own "Booolets!"
I figure I've got about 2 cents per lead bullet wrapped up in 9mm, closer to 3 cents in 45.
Add a primer and 1000-rounds-per-pound powder, now you're shooting 9mm or 45 for 6 to 7 cents a shot.
Or, $3.00 / 50 for 9mm, $4.00 / 50 for 45 ACP. That's about 1/5th of the going rate.
I figure I've got about 2 cents per lead bullet wrapped up in 9mm, closer to 3 cents in 45.
Add a primer and 1000-rounds-per-pound powder, now you're shooting 9mm or 45 for 6 to 7 cents a shot.
Or, $3.00 / 50 for 9mm, $4.00 / 50 for 45 ACP. That's about 1/5th of the going rate.
true... but if you do not cast your own bullets - the savings become much, much smaller. I looked the the Midway catalogue and when I take the cheapest 9mm bullets they have and the cheapest casings/primer + gun powder .... the savings get fairly small. not to mention the reloading equipment and learning curve... that being said: if 9mm for cheapo range ammo stays above $28/100rds.... it's something worth considering. but definitely not when prices come back down and I can get Blazer 9mm for $21/100rds...
My second firearms purchase as an adult was a Savage in 300WM. I started reloading pretty much from the beginning. That ammo was expensive then.. it's exhorbitant now.
Texasgun;
If you buy all new brass, to start the process with, you don't save much. But you can reload straight walled pistol cases over and over .. and over.. and over.. and over again (I've got some 45 cases with 15+ loads on them - I don't even bother to sort the stuff by "generation").
One pound of Unique will do a thousand 9mm loads: $16.99
Bullets: $112 / 1000 (source: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/29...iameter-115-grain-full-metal-jacket-flat-base)
Casings (assuming worst case, you have NONE): $35/1000 (Source; http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=684818)
Primers: $29/1000
That gives us a total of $193 for 1000 rounds (19.30 ea)
NEXT time you load though you don't need the brass, so your cost goes down to 158.. you save the $35 on casings. So now you've beat Blazer pricing by $52
Now, you could buy lead bullets (instead of casting).
I just picked the first entry off Google search, I'm sure more thorough shopping would yield better deals: http://www.badmanbullets.com/OnlineStore/9mm-115-rn.html
$75 (shipped) per 1000.
So now you're down to $121 / 1000 - and saving $89/1000 over the cheap, non-reloadable Blazer junk at 21/100 (210/1000)
Hell, if you found a case of 1000 rounds of ammo at $89 under the cheapest price anywhere, you'd think you had the deal of the century.
You do. It's in your basement on a press. Get a Dillon or other progressive press and you can crank out those 1000 rounds after work, and still have time for a shower, supper, and a movie.
Texasgun;
If you buy all new brass, to start the process with, you don't save much. But you can reload straight walled pistol cases over and over .. and over.. and over.. and over again (I've got some 45 cases with 15+ loads on them - I don't even bother to sort the stuff by "generation").
One pound of Unique will do a thousand 9mm loads: $16.99
Bullets: $112 / 1000 (source: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/29...iameter-115-grain-full-metal-jacket-flat-base)
Casings (assuming worst case, you have NONE): $35/1000 (Source; http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=684818)
Primers: $29/1000
That gives us a total of $193 for 1000 rounds (19.30 ea)
NEXT time you load though you don't need the brass, so your cost goes down to 158.. you save the $35 on casings. So now you've beat Blazer pricing by $52
Now, you could buy lead bullets (instead of casting).
I just picked the first entry off Google search, I'm sure more thorough shopping would yield better deals: http://www.badmanbullets.com/OnlineStore/9mm-115-rn.html
$75 (shipped) per 1000.
So now you're down to $121 / 1000 - and saving $89/1000 over the cheap, non-reloadable Blazer junk at 21/100 (210/1000)
Hell, if you found a case of 1000 rounds of ammo at $89 under the cheapest price anywhere, you'd think you had the deal of the century.
You do. It's in your basement on a press. Get a Dillon or other progressive press and you can crank out those 1000 rounds after work, and still have time for a shower, supper, and a movie.
Jenrick
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I recommend Precision Delta for bullets, best jacketed stuff out there and at a dang good price.
Anyway back to the OP: LGS had pretty much everything in stock, they weren't letting anyone purchase more then 100rds of 5.56/.223 per day to prevent a run on it.
-Jenrick
Anyway back to the OP: LGS had pretty much everything in stock, they weren't letting anyone purchase more then 100rds of 5.56/.223 per day to prevent a run on it.
-Jenrick
Onward Allusion
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22LR is not going to be in short supply anytime soon. It just isn't one of those panic calibers to most people. Local Wally World is out of 9mm, 40S&W, & 45ACP, however.
Quit shopping in the Midway catalogue if you want to save any money reloading.
Montana Gold or Precision Delta bullets and large lots of powder and primers from PVI and you can reload 124gr 9mm for ~$125/1K.
Good luck finding any decent new production ammo for 2X that amount at the store.
JFrame
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Interesting that you say that about the .22 WMR. During the last "ammo scare" back in 2009, I noticed that my local Wally World was TOTALLY depleted of ALL ammo except .22 WMR and .22 CB shorts.
I thought, "Hmmm...", and within the next year, acquired a .22 WMR semiauto rifle and a couple of .22 WMR handguns. I'd wanted to get into .22 mags for the past few years anyway, so it's not like I forced myself into the move. But it just seemed like a nice "tweener" caliber to add to my repertoire...
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I walked into Academy Sports on the way home along with $150 worth of gift cards and they had quite a few of those plastic ammo boxes that have Blazer Brass in seven box 350 count rounds for $99 in both 9mm and 40.
Grabbed two.
They also had some 38 Special,22,357,but no 380 or 32 ACP.
did not see any 223 OR 7.62X39.
Grabbed two.
They also had some 38 Special,22,357,but no 380 or 32 ACP.
did not see any 223 OR 7.62X39.
I found some Armscor bulk .22 on CTD and ordered some for $18.69-500. Not my favorite .22 but fine for plinking. Blazer is non-existent anywhere. I bought a couple of pistol mags and a couple boxes of .223 hunting ammo and shipping was around $18.00.
As always when using CTD make sure everything comes from the same warehouse or they will hit you with double shipping charges. Everything I ordered came out of A.
As always when using CTD make sure everything comes from the same warehouse or they will hit you with double shipping charges. Everything I ordered came out of A.
Quick Shot xMLx
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Easier to say what ammo I can't find around here. 9mm, .223, 7.62x39, .45, .357mag, .22lr, and 12ga buckshot/slugs are impossible to find. Everything else is still in stock.
XD Fan
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I just bought 150rounds of 45acp at WM. there were three boxes still on the shelf. No 9mm or bulk .22lr though.
ColtPythonElite
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You obviously haven't been shopping for .22lr lately.
alsaqr
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Indeed, both Wal-Marts in Lawton are out of .22 ammo. Not one round on the shelves.
rodinal220
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577 Snider
577-450 Martini-Henry
All my loose Black powder and ball/shot,flint,slow match
38s&w
44 russian
44 colt
Air rifle pellets
577-450 Martini-Henry
All my loose Black powder and ball/shot,flint,slow match
38s&w
44 russian
44 colt
Air rifle pellets
xjsnake
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And here I thought I overpaid when I spent $24 on that same box at my LGS yesterday to feed my new Mark III.
Silent Bob
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Everybody is saying "reload, save money" but all my shops are cleaned out of reloading supplies as well.
I noticed after the IDPA match yesterday one guy stayed behind to dig lead out of the berm.
I noticed after the IDPA match yesterday one guy stayed behind to dig lead out of the berm.
Interesting that supplies of 22LR are among the scarce considering how many consider it a substandard round. Something interesting to note: when the government contracted for 450 million rounds on 9 mm there were people who were worried about it. 22LR production is about 2.5 BILLION per year and it's almost all sold out along with basically all existing stock of 223, 9mm and around here 308. Kind of makes you wonder....
I was a bit surprised that .22 was selling out at the local stores. Just didn't see it as a panic type of item. I mean you can still find 30-06 everywhere so why would .22 dry up. Now 22LR is almost sold out on all the websites unless you are looking for Match ammo and want to pay $10 per shot. I got a CTD catalog in the mail this week and decided to look on the site. Just go to CTD and look up different types. They show out on more than they have in stock but they were the only place I saw any bulk .22 in any kind of reasonable price range. I used ammoseek.com and the sites they listed as having bulk .22 were all OOS.
Assuming most of the gun control talk dies out over the next month it will still take a month or two to re-fill the pipeline and then it will get interesting. How many manufacturers will raise thei prices to distributors who will raise their prices to dealers? How many dealers will buy extra anticipating that sales will stay sky high? How many people have stocked up on more ammo than they will shoot in 5 years?
IF the assault weapons ban withers then I think there will be an abundace of ammo for a while. I don't think guns will be plentiful for quite a while though.
Assuming most of the gun control talk dies out over the next month it will still take a month or two to re-fill the pipeline and then it will get interesting. How many manufacturers will raise thei prices to distributors who will raise their prices to dealers? How many dealers will buy extra anticipating that sales will stay sky high? How many people have stocked up on more ammo than they will shoot in 5 years?
IF the assault weapons ban withers then I think there will be an abundace of ammo for a while. I don't think guns will be plentiful for quite a while though.
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ColtPythonElite
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If I recall correctly, Brownells shows they don't expect Federal 36 gr Champion .22lr until September 2013.
Batty67
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No matter what happens, plenty of 22LR will be available in the near future.
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