AMTRAK...Any Concealed Carry on trains?

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Their current website says nothing whatsoever about firearms or weapons or guns. A search of the website returns 0 hits. This is almost conspicuous by it's absence considering the earlier website had numerous references.
The exact same thing that struck me. If it's not allowed, why not include it with all the other "forbidden items"?
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Bureaucrats can put all kinds of stuff in the CFR. That doesn't make it the law. You can't make something a felony by regulation. It takes a law. Now I suppose Congress could say "felony to carry dangerous item" and leave the definition up to the CFR, but I think you could fight that for vagueness.
 
My family and I just took Amtrak from Oceanside, Ca to Portland, Ore over Christmas- the train was FULL both ways- we got stuck in steerage with the Irish immigrants dancing on the tables as all the family compartments were full. We didn't hit an iceberg, but lots of snow. They didn't search any luggage and I could have had my 1911 right with me. I was worried about it so I only carried a cheap folding knife in case that was confiscated too. No searches, and the nicest, most professional crew imaginable. There were some rowdy College kids getting drunk with some questionable people in the observation car, and even that wasn't questioned. We all carried our own luggage, so I could have had my M1A and no-one would have been any wiser.
 
I wouldn't want to ride the train without my Glock. I would rather drive.
I hope you've got that gun concealed and keep it concealed- for a long long time. :D :evil: :evil: :neener:
 
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Bureaucrats can put all kinds of stuff in the CFR. That doesn't make it the law.
If I'm not mistaken, the Code of Federal Regulations does have the force of law on Federal property. (I don't agree that AMTRAK is Federal property, though.) The same CFR you'd get busted for if you brought a firearm onto a military base or the Pentagon. CFR violations do get tried in Federal Court, but I don't think every violation equates to an mautomatic felony just because it's a Federal rap.Blackhawk? Anybody?

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The Code of Federal Regulations is the law. When Congress passes a law and it is signed by the President, the Executive Branch publishes proposed rules and asks for public comment. After a period of time, a final rule is published in the Federal Register with an effective date of the rule. Congress has authorized the appropriate Secretary to promulgate regulations codifying the law. The Code of Federal Regulations is nothing more than a special edition of the Federal Register that brings all the parts together. In most cases, if you compare the US Code with the Code of Federal Regulations, they will be identical, word for word.

An enforcement agency may cite you for a violation of the Code of Federal Regulations and the US Attorney will cite the portion of the US Code that authorizes the regulation when he files charges.

Arguing that the CFR is not law might get you a cell mate that says the income tax is unconstitutional.
 
"Well, IMHO, Amtrak is not a transportation entity - it's an amusement park for train buffs..."

And not a very good one, at that.

More like riding a marginally cleaner cattle car with broken seats and cattle wearing bad suits.

I used to take Amcrash to Philly from Harrisburg fairly frequently. Normally had a loaded .38 on my ankle.
 
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