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An anti-gun 20/20 this friday

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by skwab, Apr 6, 2009.

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  1. yokel

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    Sure, go right ahead and squander your time watching a dog and pony show that will in all likelihood prove to be rife with the same old tired chicanery, mendacity, deceit, and pretense.
     
  2. ~Eug~2nd1st

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    Hey after readin most of this thread I jumped over to abc's webpage and looked around. There are a couple of videos and snipits of the basic junk that we'd expect, but then there was this one:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7260969

    Although I don't agree with the "way" he stated his opinion, it was pretty much on the mark as I saw it.
    Also at nearly 500 comments and replys to some of the "anti-" videos, it seems we here at THR are not alone.
    ok maybe Im just looking for a silver lining but you gotta have hope.
     
  3. wyk

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    Just my 2 cents worth. I think the media is hypocritical in putting all blame on spree shootings at gun laws saying we need tougher gun laws. They too need to evaluate the way the report on each shooting. IMHO, I think they should NOT give much attention and focus on the perp as that would only serve to encourage and give other copycats the false notion that they too could attain the same fame/noteriety and public attention if they engage in the same stupid and selfish actions. Therefore the media is part of the problem too!
     
  4. rbernie
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    The media does have, as a whole, a left-of-center bias. But that isn't the issue here any more than anyones opinion of a specific reporter.

    The issue under discussion is how fair the reporting is on this issue and what to do about the perceived lack of balance.
     
  5. Ned Kelly

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    I just saw a commercial on it. It's absolutely rediculous. It's trying to make people think they would do more harm than good if they were attacked by a gunman.

    Plus they show kids pointing guns at each other.
     
  6. mike101

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    There is no way this report is going to be anywhere near 'balanced'. ABC News has a well known anti-gun bias.

    I'm sure it's going to be infuriating, and I know it won't be good for my blood-pressure, but I think it's important for us to watch. I know this will be good for at least one blog out of Paul Helmke, and I'm sure several emails from the Brady Campaign soliciciting contributions, and imploring us all to call our representatives, and the White House, as they did over the 'guns in national parks' thing.

    I'm also sure that there will be a whole new crop of antis to deal with on Helmke's blog on Huffpo, and a whole new crop of anti-gun blogs from other authors over there.

    Oh, the hysteria.
     
  7. SJ78

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    These anti gun people like Diane S . are idiots ! They all claim guns should be be banned . I remember during the LA riots alot of anti gun people were
    the first in line ! to buy a gun . It's always no to guns unless it involves "their" safety .
     
  8. rbernie
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    It must be time to refill the coffers of The Brady Bunch with cash plucked from the pockets of a new crop of True Believers.

    Think of this kind of reporting as a Sally Struthers commercial for the Brady Bunch set.
     
  9. MD_Willington

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    Following the money sounds like a great approach.

    More and more I feel like the anti’s are getting their message across in a glossy HD DVD format with all the glitz and glam of Hollywood.

    While we are only able to have a teenager on a skate board putting flyers on car windshields to get our message across.
     
  11. harrygunner

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    I've seen the ad for the show. No need to wonder if it will be fair and balanced.

    It showed small children playing with handguns, pointing the guns at themselves and others.

    Looks like they will show everything we DON'T do to create a problem that must be solved "for the children".

    I'm surprised there's no conservative billionaires supporting realistic depictions of gun owners on television.
     
  12. Animal Mother

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    20/20 Hit Piece on Guns Out Early

    I guess ABC news is making a full court press for more gun control, especially with their piece out on Friday. :barf:

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=7297745&page=1

    :barf:
     
  13. Rob P.

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    So, through the article with ABC news, Mr. Samaha has admitted that HE BROKE THE LAW and that somehow a new law will prevent him from doing that again?

    These people are SO STUPID it is amazing to me that they have actually been able to achieve their financial/social status. :fire:
     
  14. uh-oh

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    This stuff makes me sick.
     
  15. highorder

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    Many smart, rational people believe that guns are a different class of private property, subject to special rules.

    They see nothing wrong with ALL transfers of firearms going through an FFL dealer for a NICS check.

    The also dont consider or care that dealers are then free to refuse to process transfers, or charge whatever they like for the privilage.

    They don't understand the limitations or care about them because unlike other civil rights, they have no desire to exercise this one.
     
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    Where the hell is John Stossel? I'm sure they won't bother having him on for this crap because he knows better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoLuTjguJA

    The idiots at ABC should know better, the produce the stuff Stossel has done. I don't get it.

    All the more reason to talk with or introduce new people to the 2nd amendment.
     
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  18. eye5600

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    I saw a trailer for this. They take the guy to a gun show. He buys a Glock FTF in the parking lot, and say "There's the gun show loophole."

    Umm, no. That's the "gun show parking lot loophole".

    I didn't see anything later where he might have actually gotten into the gun show.
     
  19. Animal Mother

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    I find it interesting that the former ATF agent believes that because Samaha has bought guns he could suddenly become unstoppable against three or four squad cars of police officers.

    ABC News wasn't even trying to give a fair representation of the facts, they dedicate two sentences to the pro-rights side.

    Interesting story, a man buys guns at a gun show, and -drumroll- nothing happens. How can this be? It must be stopped! You can't just have citizens exchanging private property amongst themselves. We must pass a law, that will keep all the criminals from buying guns from each other.
     
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  20. Eric F

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    There is no rule on the amount of rifles you can buy at any time in VA infact all purchases were legal execpt they were straw purchases for 20/20
     
  21. Yellowfin

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    I wonder if anything will cross the line sufficiently to be classified as libel.
     
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    Funny how the tv crew waited for him to come back out in the parking lot. How do we know he didn't go inside and have to do background checks and there was no camera around to conveniently film it?
     
  23. Kentucky Kernel

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    It makes me sick as well. One of many emotional lines of nonsense was the one "...even families with children..." were attending the show, as if it were a sinful event. I take my kids to shows, and even took my sons to the NRA annual convention in Louisville. Pretty insulting to insinuate that it is awful to go to a firearm show as a family. Heck, the dissolution of the family unit is what's hurting the US.

    KK
     
  24. Madcap_Magician

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    The thing that all the news media overlook is really simple: All the transactions made were private sales between individuals. Even if you DID ban private sales without a background check, that law would be unenforceable.
     
  25. Palo

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    Quote: "Where the hell is John Stossel? I'm sure they won't bother having him on for this crap because he knows better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoLuTjguJA

    The idiots at ABC should know better, the produce the stuff Stossel has done. I don't get it. All the more reason to talk with or introduce new people to the 2nd amendment".

    CAMSLAM,

    Of course ABC knows better, but it doesn't fit their template (all guns are bad) so they fit the facts to support their "story" (more like propaganda). I have a family member who works in production at ABC for news & related like 20/20 for quite some time. John Stossel is hated by most of the on-air talent & cohorts, as well as a lot of upper management (per family member John is a great guy to work with). ABC only keeps him to pretend they are balanced (he almost bailed the other year when his contract was up to Fox, but ABC in the very last minute outbid them). That's it in a nutshell.
     
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