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An armed and armored front-end loader?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Preacherman, Oct 15, 2005.

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  1. Preacherman

    Preacherman Member

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    From the Telegraph, London (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...16.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/10/16/ixworld.html):

    It's a JCB... but not as we know it

    By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent

    (Filed: 16/10/2005)

    The United States Army, the world's most powerful military organisation, has unveiled its latest secret weapon in the war against terror - a JCB digger that can travel at 60 miles an hour.

    Camouflaged to protect it from enemy fire and equipped with machine-guns, armour, bullet-proof glass and smoke dispensers, this latest vehicle is the biggest, fastest and most expensive digger ever to go into production.


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    It is a far cry from the design of the first digger - the creation of Joseph Cyril Bamford - which made its debut in the towns and villages of Staffordshire during the reconstruction of post-war Britain.

    The 12-ton vehicle has a 5.9-litre diesel engine, four-wheel-drive and four-wheel-steer design. It can lift more than two tons and can dig to a depth of 13 feet.

    But its most impressive attribute is that it has a top speed of 60mph, twice that of the civilian version, which will enable it to travel at the same speed over rough terrain and on roads as an armoured military convoy.

    It is also equipped with "run-flat" tyres, which will allow it to escape from ambushes even if the wheels are damaged by small arms fire, and is fitted with a second seat that will enable another soldier to ride "shotgun".

    Chris Sleight, the editor of International Construction magazine, described the machine as "an impressive feat of engineering".

    He said: "It is the speed of this machine that sets it apart from others - it can travel at almost 60mph. That's twice the speed of a normal JCB and that is very, very impressive. It will look different to the JCBs seen on building sites. It will have a lot of its vital parts covered with armour plating so it will look quite different. Style will not be an issue."

    An industry source added that the Americans decided to make the vehicle armoured after its construction teams in Iraq were constantly attacked by insurgents because they were unable to protect themselves properly.

    He added: "The beauty of this machine is that it can get to the front line very quickly and can get out of trouble very quickly. It does 0 to 60mph in a minute, which is not bad for something that will be armour-plated. It also has air conditioning and cup holders for the driver and co-driver."

    Although the armoured digger may lack the military allure of a battle tank, it is a vital component of virtually all large-scale operations. The digger, based on the famous JCB backhoe loader, will be used to dig trenches, fill in shell craters, build defensive positions and airstrips.

    It is understood that the United States Army version of the machine will begin to roll off the production line in 2007 and will be dispatched to Iraq to take part in the rebuilding programme. The digger's self-defence weapons and additional armour will be fitted after the Americans has taken delivery.

    The £100 million contract to provide up to 500 diggers - each costs in excess of £200,000 - was awarded to JCB, the British construction company, this month following a nine-month assessment at the army's proving grounds in Maryland. The award of the contract followed a three-year development programme.

    JCB, which was founded in the 1950s, is one of Britain's most successful privately owned construction companies. The small but versatile JCB backhoe loader is the workhorse of the range and has achieved sales of more than 325,000 across five continents.
     
  2. dasmi

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    So...where can I get one?
     
  3. chris in va

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    They're seriously gonna make those things??
     
  4. Lupinus

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    **drools and goes into homer mode** mmmmmmm loader
     
  5. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

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    27 miles to the gallon around town, 38 miles to the gallon on the highway, no doubt.
     
  6. shermacman

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    "Armour plating"
    "Smoke grenades"
    "Machine guns"

    "Twin cup holders"


    BWAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

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    And to think I used to get chastised for drawing pictures of stuff like that in grade school.:uhoh:
     
  8. Zundfolge

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    Wow!

    Think what that guy in Granby coulda done with THAT! :eek:

    :evil:
     
  9. rudolf

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    The Israelis started this concept of armed and armoured bulldozers.
    You shoot at the Israelis from your house. They don't send special forces. They don't remove you from the house. They remove the house :evil:
     
  10. Insectguy

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    5.9L diesel?

    My truck has a 5.9L gas engine, and nowhere near the payload of this thing.

    Must be a better design. :scrutiny:

    And I get 12.5 mpg.:confused:
     
  11. Alex45ACP

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    That's pretty cool. I wonder if it's even bigger than a D9.
     
  12. shermacman

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    "Camouflage paint"


    AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA`!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I'M GUNNA PEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "Camouflage paint"

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YUP! Ain't no one gunna see you in that thing!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. PeteRR

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    Undoubtedly a 5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel. A potent motor.
     
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    I believe that the Israeli bulldozers are built by Caterpillar. The reason I know this is that a year or two ago, a young US citizen was killed by such a bulldozer while trying to stop it from crushing a Palestinian house. She was originally from Olympia, and her parents, who still reside in Washington, subsequently filed a lawsuit against Caterpillar for providing these bulldozers to the Israelis. There was some media attention at the time in the Seattle area about this.

    MEMO TO SELF: Do not stand in front of very large and heavy armored vehicles with lousy vision for the driver. :uhoh:
     
  15. Lupinus

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    We could all chip in and buy a few front end loaders and make our own rednecktified versions :evil:
     
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    :evil:
     
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    well first off, my dump truck has a bigger motor so im not that impressed.
    next, id rather on of these slightly larger models myself, although they are slower=

    darn it i cant find a decent image anywhere, ill have ot take a photo myself.
    anyway, the huge ladfill dozers, with steel wheels, similar to this anyway
    but bigger

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    major damage, plus the huge blade and super tall cabin provide lots of protection

    that became significant and also they did NOT build all of the cats there, some were shipped.
    reasoning for suit= totally illegal for regular companies to contract out equiptment being used as warmachines.
    of course all cat does is say "we didnt know what they were gonna do with them"
    and its over.

    but in theory it is illegal to sell construction equipt to other nations for war uses, something to that effect.

    equate it to selling stun guns to foreign govts that use them for torture.
     
  18. Farnham

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    60 MPH in a front end loader...hmm...anyone ever run a Cat 920 or 966 at less than half that speed down a washboard road or had to hit the brakes? :rolleyes:

    Better you than me.

    S/F

    Farnham
     
  19. SASS#23149

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    with that wheelbase

    you'd not want to make any kind of tight turn at SIXTY MPH.Over you'd go!!!
    That motor is waaay too small for the rig,seems like.
    hmmmmm.
     
  20. Kobun

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    Nope, not a CAT, but a Volvo similar in size to a 920. 37 MPH down a narrow gravel road in the forest, with trees on one side and a cliff on the other.
    Never again! :uhoh: Problem wasn't breaking, but having to constantly jiggle the steeringwheel in order to take up the slack in the steering joint.

    Australians have had this one out for some years. Also does 60 MPH

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    More info in this PDF.
     
  21. Sam

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    I'm with Farnham,
    Most construction equipment is lousey for driving at any speed at all.
    Observe a grader loader anything else trying to get down the road where he isn't supposed to be. Can barely keep the things in the lane when it's smooth.
    No way I'm taking that thing to the strip.

    I really hate armored equipment anyway. heavy eqpt is maintainance intensive stuff and when you start slapping plate all over it, any convenience goes out the window. It better have single point greasing and lots of hinged panels.

    Sam
     
  22. Dannyboy

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    Pancake breakfast? Ouch! Talk about bad. Kinda funny, though, in a sick and twisted sorta way.:evil:
     
  23. Bigjake

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    Guys its all about gear ratios, not cubic inches or horsepower. My John Deere 7710 is only putting out about 160 horsepower, and it'll pull a 7 bottom plow all day. I'm sure this thing definatly has a pair of big brass ones.

    Not sure though, on how it will fare against RPGs :uhoh:


    heres a pic for reference- http://www.netikka.net/mikko.pikkutupa/7710.jpg
     
  24. Majic

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    Have you ever drove a front end loader? At just 20 mph the weight of the boom and bucket and the type of tires will set it to rocking when hitting any kind of bump or like mentioned above when hitting the brakes hard. I just can't see one being stable at 60 mph on anything but a perfectly smooth surface.
     
  25. Azrael256

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    Ok, hang on just a second there. It is capable of 60mph. An Abrams is capable of 85mph, but they don't run that fast because the vehicle can't handle being driven that fast over anything short of a quality runway. You get up in that range, and tracks come off. It's a Bad Thing(tm).

    So, they're governed down to 45mph (even slower on the newer versions, IIRC), which doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to run 45mph sustained for any length of time. If you read up on convoys, you'll find that they tend to move pretty slowly, even in vehicles that are highway-safe at 65mph. The problem with the older earth-movers was that they were slow, and not designed to drive by themselves in a convoy. They had to be loaded on flatbeds and moved to where they were needed (they move tanks that way, too). Think of the logistical savings of not needing flatbeds for earth moving equipment. Think of the tactical advantage of having a ready-to-go backhoe arrive with the tanks in a position.
     
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