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an end run around existing law?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by alan, Oct 28, 2009.

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  1. alan

    alan Member

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    If the following has been previously posted, pardon me. I've been "off line" for a while. By the way, as I understand things, exisiting federal law precludes the creation of any nationwide system of gun registration as the BATFE might try to foist off. The "etrace" routine discussed in the following JPFO alert, and the accompanying links appears to be the above mentioned "end run" around existing restrictions over BATFE actions. Judge for yourselves, and act as you think appropriate, perhaps contacting your elected things. JPFO alert follows below.

    ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
    America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

    October 27th 2009

    JPFO ALERT: ETRACE FRAUD EXPOSED



    Our Monday alert -- http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20091026.htm
    -- about the Hillary Clinton State Department being deliriously
    happy about your gun ownership records being provided to thousands
    of police agencies and foreign governments, solicited this response
    from a retired police detective about the eTrace registration
    scheme. Please read about his hands on experiences and pass them on
    to every gun owner in America. Simply put, eTrace is being used to
    create a national firearms registry. It must be stopped.--
    http://www.jpfo.org/articles-assd/etrace-fraud.htm

    Remember, an opportunity is available to save 50% on frames that
    you can machine to make a receiver to create your own gun without
    the usual requirements when buying a firearm. We encourage you to
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    This alert, on JPFO -
    http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20091027.htm



    The Liberty Crew
    Protecting you by creating solutions to destroy "gun control"
     
  2. wilkersk

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    Check this out from the web at Hillary's house:

     
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    Here's a list of foriegn countries that currently participate in e-Trace:

     
  4. Art Eatman

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    Looks to me like eTrace stops at the dealer in those states which do not have the registration/FOID systems or similar. Records are readily available for the sequence of factory to distributor to dealer.

    For instance, in Texas, an agent would have to go to a dealer to check for a specific purchaser since no state registration is required. NICS checks only for a would-be buyer's criminal record but does not have any record of specific firearm info.
     
  5. alan

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    Art:

    Re your comment, correct so far, on what data/factors NICS checks contain or involve, one wonders as to how long before the push for expansion of NICS, to include other "essential" data, such as firearm make, model and serial number. Also, might such a push already be underway?

    The foregoing are NOT intended as criticism of your comment, they are merely things that come to my suspicious mind.
     
  6. Art Eatman

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    A change in NICS would require a change in the law by Congress, so as usual we have to watch Congress. I guess an Executive Order is possible, but that's probably not highly likely.
     
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    Art:

    By all means, congressional antics bear close watching, as do those Executive Orders, about which the following.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't a whole lot that we mere citizens can do about EO's. I believe, in theory, The Congress has the power to over rule, over ride or set them aside, however I personally cannot recall this happening. My memory might be faulty though.
     
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    SFAIK, Congress has the constitutional authority to overrule an Executive Order. That's a memory thing, though, and I'd need to hunt for a definitive answer.
     
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