An extremely reckeless situational awareness exercise

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jiggle, i wouldn't say that moren is harmless.
he sounds like a coward to me and cowards can be very dangourous. he's the type to knife you in the back, literially or figurtively.
don't trust him and don't let up your guard around him.
on the plus side, he sounds kinda dumb, so you have brains to your advantage.
 
I really feel that he is harmless
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A loaded gun in the hand, a trigger on the finger and a slip/scare/sudden noise might very easily turn harmless into "sorry"... and that might be one surprised 5 lb. twitch of a finger too late... ya know?
 
he's not harmless he is a dangerous idiot.
and a poster boy for the Brady campaign:uhoh:
cops probably met a few of his friends in "professional situations " Idiots should be allowed all the guns they want as long as a care worker holds the rounds:mad:
 
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after you've known somebody for as long as they've known each other it would be hard to do that to them
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Jeeze, it's not like you're asking BestFriend to put a gun to somebody's head or anything, right?

BestFriend sounds like a moron. :banghead:
 
How is someone who holds a loaded gun to a person's head...and then points same loaded gun at you with his finger on the trigger...HARMLESS?
 
When I said he is harmless, I meant that he is not the kind of person who will come and track me down to get back at me. He is not a violent person, and his temper is almost nonexistant. He is just stupid. And remember, he is a police dispatcher. It doesn't matter if he knows where I live or not, he could find all that out in a matter of minutes.

But if he's gonna come and get me, he's gonna come and get me. There's nothing I can do other than stay aware, which I do anyway.

Thanks for your help guys.
 
Stay away from Moron, or might end up with the same alias yourself by association if he does another stupid thing... Which he undoubtedly will.
 
Assuming this happened exactly as you described, this child in an adult body needs a time-out.

Turn him in and excommunicate yourself from him.

You will undoubtably save someone else down the road by taking this action.

This type of behavior is a cry for help and will not improve over time w/o intervention. Even with intervention it may not improve, but at least he'll be stripped of his CCW which he richly deserves.
 
Assuming this happened exactly as you described, this child in an adult body needs a time-out.

Turn him in and excommunicate yourself from him.

You will undoubtably save someone else down the road by taking this action.

This type of behavior is a cry for help and will not improve over time w/o intervention. Even with intervention it may not improve, but at least he'll be stripped of his CCW which he richly deserves.
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I am working with my friend to find the best way to deal with this. He completely understands that somethings needs to be done, he's still just a little reluctant to do it. We're thinking about telling Moron that he has to go to some kind of counseling or therapy, or BestFriend will go to the police and file a report of his own, which will end with Moron being brought up on charges. The problem is that Moron doesn't really have the money to pay for a therapist. Do you guys have any ideas for an alternative?

And I can't stress it enough. I will never hang out with Moron again. His girlfriend's birthday is in a couple weeks. I really want to go, as she is my friend, but I have already told them I am not attending.
 
tell moren to look into social services offered in his area. thats what there there for, after all. a local free clinic may have answers as well.
 
We're thinking about telling Moron that he has to go to some kind of counseling or therapy, or BestFriend will go to the police and file a report of his own, which will end with Moron being brought up on charges. The problem is that Moron doesn't really have the money to pay for a therapist. Do you guys have any ideas for an alternative?
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I can't freakin' believe you just asked us that!!! This guy needs to be locked up for a little while so he can think about what he's doing. That's the best therapy for him. It doesn't matter that he's a big baby or whatever else you've stated in this thread. He broke the law BIG TIME by what he did. And beyond that, he's going to kill someone if he keeps going. Or he's going to get himself killed.

I my not so humble opinion, you just walking away from this is the wrong thing to do. If you walk away and he kills someone or gets himself killed, you're never going to forgive yourself. It'll aways be on your mind. Man uup and do what's right.
 
Man uup and do what's right.
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I've done what's right. Now it's up to my friend to do what's right. You act as if I'm just sitting around laughing about the situation. I went to the police station last night after a difficult day at work (I found out that a friend of mine killed himself the day before) and effectively tried to put somebody I have known for a few years in jail. Please don't act like I've done nothing.

My friend doesn't want to turn his friend in if it can be avoided, and he wants to come up with some kind of compromise. I figure something (counseling of some sort) is better than nothing, no?
 
this thread makes my head hurt.

your "friend" should be furious that some moron almost punched his ticket for him. He needs to grow a pair and get on board with solving this problem or he makes himself part of it.

walk away from these people and find new people to spend time with. No one you have described in this thread is your friend.


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My friend doesn't want to turn his friend in if it can be avoided, and he wants to come up with some kind of compromise. I figure something (counseling of some sort) is better than nothing, no?
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Why do you even care? You cant fix stupid.
 
Who goes to visit friends and lays down on the kitchen floor to take a cat nap?
 
I think you guys should lighten up on Jiggle a bit. First off, a bunch of you have posted without reading the entire thread. If you had, you'd have seen his periodic updates and responses interspersed throughout it.

He's done the right thing. He's doing the right thing. And he's doing the smart thing by remaining diplomatic with his friend. We all agree that BestFriend needs to get away from Moron, too. We all understand that. Jiggle understands that. The problem is that BestFriend needs to SEE this. And, without having a clue about the social dynamics going on there, it looks to ME like Jiggle's doing what he can to make BestFriend see things our way. He can lead the horse to water....

As far as Jiggle's responsibilities go, he's already sacrificed to do the Right Thing. You can't do what he did (file a report) without making waves amongst friends. Especially when they may or may not be friends who have a clue about guns, and more importantly gun safety. I think Jiggle's done what's right here. And I think he's continuing to do it. And I think it's probably WISE of Jiggle to have some tact in dealing with BestFriend. A screeching madman roaring about the insanity and stupidity of it all (regardless of the fact that Moron actually WAS insane and stupid) just comes across as a screeching madman.

Jiggle, I'd expect more "DUDE, DO THE RIGHT THING FILE A POLICE REPORT" posts. Not everyone reads the entire thread before responding.
 
Once again, thanks Siglite. I was starting to feel a little overwhelmed by the fact that I did what everybody said I should do, and then people make it seem like I'm the bad guy. I am pressuring my friend into filing a report, but if doesn't want to then I can't make him.
 
You're in a tough situation. Sig gave you excellent advice and you followed it. I bet Moron's Dad was given an update too. Don't beat yourself up. With the exception of Moron, you want to spend time with friends and I can understand your frustration. Do what you can to keep yourself safe. Hopefully Bestfriend will get a clue and move on to someone who actually cares about him. Good luck.
 
I agree with Siglite's assessment. Being ready to hear the full range of comments doesn't mean you have to agree with all of them. I hope you will stick around and participate in some of the other discussions here on the High Road.

My condolences on the loss of your friend.
 
To paraphrase John Farnam, "Don't go to stupid places and don't hang out with stupid people." I've found that I've gotten very selective as to who and where I am going to spend my time. I like friends and parties as much as the next person, but I choose my friends based on their respectfulness and behavior towards me and others.

It narrows my circle of true friends, but one of life's lessons is learning that everyone who claims you as a friend doesn't deserve reciprocation. If BestFriend has so little self esteem and respect for himself and you that someone committed such an outrage on his person and he responds by blowing it off, perhaps you need to move on, knowing that you've done your best.

Ask yourself these questions:

1. If you hadn't been there and the same thing happened, would Moron be in trouble?

2. If you were a stranger happening upon the situation (one person with a gun to another's head) would you have prepared yourself to use deadly force to stop it?

3. Is Moron's circle of "friends" enabling his behavior?

Good on you for refusing to be an enabler.
 
When I said he is harmless, I meant that he is not the kind of person who will come and track me down to get back at me. He is not a violent person, and his temper is almost nonexistant. He is just stupid.
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Stupid is just as, if not more, dangerous than a violent person. And he is both.

Make that report....for the good of the public, for Pete's sake.
 
To paraphrase John Farnam, "Don't go to stupid places and don't hang out with stupid people." I've found that I've gotten very selective as to who and where I am going to spend my time. I like friends and parties as much as the next person, but I choose my friends based on their respectfulness and behavior towards me and others.
It narrows my circle of true friends, but one of life's lessons is learning that everyone who claims you as a friend doesn't deserve reciprocation. If BestFriend has so little self esteem and respect for himself and you that someone committed such an outrage on his person and he responds by blowing it off, perhaps you need to move on, knowing that you've done your best.

Ask yourself these questions:

1. If you hadn't been there and the same thing happened, would Moron be in trouble?

2. If you were a stranger happening upon the situation (one person with a gun to another's head) would you have prepared yourself to use deadly force to stop it?

3. Is Moron's circle of "friends" enabling his behavior?

Good on you for refusing to be an enabler.
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Thats how I see the world as well. I have 5 friends, but I can and had have trusted them with my life. I have a thousand associates, coworkers, and acquaintances. But don't make the mistake of calling them friends.
 
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