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An internal frame is a wonderful thing

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by NMshooter, Feb 25, 2006.

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  1. NMshooter

    NMshooter Member

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    I have had an Eagle AIII pack for many years, it was what replaced my ALICE medium (without frame) as a daypack. The difference in comfort was night and day. The AIII was so much better, especially with the sternum strap and waist belt.

    Eagle also sells an internal frame sheet for $20.

    I just picked one up, and it was the best $20 I ever spent.

    Hardly felt the load I was packing, and I was moving fast today.:D

    So if you are having trouble with your load, you might consider getting some sort of frame (internal or external), or switching to a pack with a frame.
     
  2. Infidel

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    Anyone using an Alice pack is a certified masochist.
     
  3. MSGT9410

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    *slowly raises hand*

    I've got a medium ALICE, with a frame. It's my 72 hour pack for GSAR-ex/missions. Maybe I'm just used to it, but it doesn't really bother me that much.
     
  4. Telperion

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    Sounds good, now if I can just get the folks at Lightfighter to deliver my RAID pack... :D
     
  5. NMshooter

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    Big difference between ALICE with and without the frame.

    Off the frame, well, I was not certified, or certifiable :)uhoh: ;) ), but it was not the most comfortable pack I ever wore.

    The ALICE on the frame, especially with some of the new shoulder straps available, and a waist belt, is not bad.

    No more truly heavy loads for me if I can avoid them, regardless of the pack.

    ETA: Yep, that should be a good one! Just make sure you get the waist belt, do not remember if that one comes with one or not...
     
  6. Infidel

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    The only pack I've ever tried that was more uncomfortable than an Alice pack, with or without the "frame", was an Army packboard with a PRC-25 attached.

    Modern internal frame packs are a whole nother world. I have and use and like Mountainsmith, Osprey, and Kelty.
     
  7. NMshooter

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    PRC-25? Better you than me...;)

    Things have improved drastically, even since I was in.:)

    I like not having to carry anything heavy anymore.
     
  8. rero360

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    I hear you there, no that I'm a MP, no more 100 plus pound rucks through the woods, after 5 and a half years of humping the grunt's load I think I've earned my Humvee, nothing worse than a large size alice with winter gear and a singars (sp) with two of everything. that was rough.
     
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