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An Official CZ Club

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Zan, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. Zan

    Zan Member

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    The cz forum seems to be a bit quiet, THR is the only place active for CZ enthusiasts. I'm a graphics and web designer and was thinking about making a professionally designed CZ club website for users interested in just CZ pistols. The content would be totally up the users of this website and I would place a few key CZ web community leaders and professionals in charge of this site if they requested to do so. The content would be, CZ news, reviews of pistols and accessories, interviews with people involved with CZ and it's community, event listing for CZ interests nationally, HOW-TOS on CZ modding and maintenance, media (pictures, graphics, wallpapers, video), price listings and of coarse a forum for the CZ community. I have afew questions of you guys:

    - Is this a good idea? If so, why? If not, why not?
    - What else would you like to see on the website not mentioned?
    - Who do you think should be involved with running the site?
    - Anything else I should know about before taking on this project?

    I'm hoping this site will give the company and it's community an unofficial place to post news and information. I do web design, and will design the site free of charge, but this will need heavier coding than my skills to accomplish. Is anyone willing to put forward donations to get this project going? ( a trusted account holder will be used if you aren't a trusting type of person.

    Let me know what you guys think.

    Zan
     
  2. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Senior Member

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    i welcome your idea... but CZforums covers the discussion part pretty good. perhaps as a CZ idea repository it'd be excellent.
     
  3. Canuc Shooter

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    Fantastic Idea, especially the interviews, and maintenance tips etc.
     
  4. NG VI

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    CZforum is great except for the total lack of traffic. The only forum I have posted in where my post is still the last one a week or more later. I know everyone has a real life too, but still it's disappointing to log on and have nothing change after days of absence.
     
  5. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Senior Member

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    sure you're not confusing it with czshooters.com? lol... czf seems active to me. i get my replies somewhat often, but it's not as huge as THR.
     
  6. eerw

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    CZF seems pretty active..CZshooters is on the quieter side.
     
  7. NG VI

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    Maybe I was posting in the wrong areas... The PCR subforum is mostly where I spent time, and that was slow.
     
  8. 240SX

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    I'd be down for that! I love CZ and I am slowly building a collection. I have 5 and will soon have 6! CZ ROCKS!
     
  9. Cliff47

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    Consider that it is summer, vacations are the standard operating mode, how many people want to sit down in front of the home computer and type away? I feel that the activity on the CZForum will pick up, and the owner, Armoredman, is looking at a different forum support package, got to get away from that intermediate log-in screen, and the pop-up.
    A great depth of knowledge over there, duplicated in part at CZShooters.
     
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  10. burningsquirrels

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    i didn't know armoredman was the head honcho. vbulletin is pretty much what every forum i know of uses, both small and huge. czshooters would be better if it didn't take 30 seconds between clicks... although sometime last week it sped up considerably...
     
  11. SN13

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    Can we just get it as a subforum of THR? That would rock!

    :)
     
  12. FEG

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    I think there are a few reasons for this.

    1) Since there are frankly too many subforums, some of the specific model boards aren't heavily trafficked at all.

    2) Thank God, but the ethos at CZF is different. If you ask a question about a PCR, you don't get a million answers like "Well, I own a totally different model that is irrelevant to the discussion, but here's my advice..."

    You may have noticed that I only post in the PCR area after no PCR owners answer for roughly a day.

    3) A lot of our traffic used to be people asking the same 10-20 questions OVER and OVER and OVER again. Walt Sherrill and I worked pretty hard to develop the two FAQ areas to address this. I won't speak for armoredman, but I know Walt and I just got plain tired of answering the same 10-20 questions countless times. Unfortunately, we may have been too successful, since it has cut down on some of the "walk-ins."
     
  13. burningsquirrels

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    i agree, CZF is broken down way too far. i've seen it happen in all the car forums i used to and some that i still haunt. every forum basically just needs a general, an off-topic, and technical areas, that may be subdivided into major categories like rifles and pistols, then antiques for example. too manyn subcategories just divides up people's attention and it becomes a pain to really see what's going on and keep track of things. just imo.
     
  14. FEG

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    Armoredman want to move us (CZF) from yuku, and I heartily agree. This may be perfect timing. I will email some of the old-timers to get a sense of this.
     
  15. FEG

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    It evolved that way over time. When I first joined (right after 9/11), CZ-USA didn't import that many models, so every model had its own area.

    Over time, CZ-USA began importing many, many more models. However, they were always added "one at a time." One day, we woke up and realized that we had too many subforums.

    It's something we all talk about fixing, but we never really get around to it. The problem is each of the small subforums have their regulars, and I hate to mess with them.
     
  16. burningsquirrels

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    ah, yeah. change is so hard, but it is also inevitable.
     
  17. GZOh

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    IMHO... another, 'newer' CZ forum would be one too many! Between the original CZ Forum and the CZers 'exchanging' on THR, I think that's enough... Truly, you can beat a good thing to death!!
    As FEG mentioned, I think the CZ FORUM desperately needs some minor 'tweeking' (too many sub-forums, tech-breakdowns, etc.) but that's it! They do a great job and totally meet the needs of most CZers... great information and great exchange!
    Be careful Zan not to direct your enthusiasm and commercial talents to an area where presently, THERE IS NO NEED!... you'd be spinning your wheels to meet YOUR needs and not those of the 'marketplace!'
     
  18. NG VI

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    OK, that makes more sense to me now. I was looking through the 97B forum last night and it looked like it had many more current posts,
     
  19. Mad Magyar

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    Oh, please!:rolleyes: Damn, I cannot escape the Sig, CZ, & Glock fanatics...:)
     
  20. Cliff47

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    Remember some of the lesser-known of Murphy's Laws: If you mess with something long enough, it will break; and if it's not broken, don't mess with it.

    I personally subscribe to the SMILE principle (Simplicity Makes It Less Effort), along with Roberts' Axiom (Only errors exist) and Berman's Corollary to Roberts' Axiom (One man's error is another man's data).
     
  21. burningsquirrels

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    it'd be nice if they just fixed the CZF... i mean, right now if i had a question about the competition hammer, i can count 7 or 8 different subforums to put it. if i had a question about competition, i can put it in 5.
     
  22. GZOh

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    Changes...

    burningsquirrels... you're dead on! Too, too many sub-forums and alot of 'exteraneous minutia!' But somehow, I feel the guys managing CZF are sharp enough to see these 'problems', understand 'em and will be fixing 'em! A Forum like that, takes alot of work, effort and thought... and didn't just happen 'by accident!'... And most important, they're CZers and WANT IT RIGHT!

    cliff47 is also dead-on... Simplicity... The Key to Life!
     
  23. phrozenlikwid

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    Add me to the "too many subforums" group.

    There is a ton of information there, and if you look at total post count it moves along fairly well (especially given that a specialized board, as opposed to a general board like THR). It's just they are spread across many different forums, and go un-noticed in the dark crevices of the 'site.

    I personally can't stand Yuku, and would be more than happy to see it move to a VB backend (I'd even help do it!). Yuku makes things far to cluttered, and strikes me as being overly complex to administrate.

    As it stands, between CZF, here, and BrianEnos.... I've little in the way of questions that haven't been (or couldn't be) answered.
     
  24. tekarra

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    I vote for cleaning up the intro to czforum and leaving the sub-forums as they are. If I want to look at a specific model, it is quick to find posts. IMO reducing the number of sub-forums would take longer to find info. Armoredman, Walt and FEG are doing a fine job.
     
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