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And so it starts ... HR 1022 ... to Reauthorize Fed AW Ban

Discussion in 'Legal' started by 30 cal slob, Feb 14, 2007.

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  1. Autolycus

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    He hit the nail right on the head. Instead of voting for the Constitution party you might consider the Libertarian party. The Constitution party is very much a corp of rightwingers trying to enforce their religious beliefs under the guise of freedom.
     
  2. Lobotomy Boy

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    I've said this maybe 100 times or more, but we are not in a battle between right and left, Democrat and Republican, socialist and capitalist; we are in a battle between liberty and tyranny, and all of the above groups are lousy with tyrants.
     
  3. JWarren

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    I just got off the phone with Gene Taylor's (MS-D) office.

    This is not a direct quote, but I think you'll get the gist of what was said:



    I think his office gets it. And it also seems that he paints an ugly picture of the climate in D.C. right now.


    John
     
  4. MatthewVanitas

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    Would it be possible to move this thread to General?

    The Zumbo thread has 24,000 hits today, this one has 8,000...

    -MV
     
  5. Kevlarman

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    Congressman Buck McKeon will be visiting the campus where I work today.
    Perhaps if I see him I can squeeze in a word or two about HR 1022. :)
     
  6. Bartholomew Roberts

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    HEADS UP!

    A constituent of Rep. John Boehner (GOA-rated A- OH-8 Republican) reported on AR15.com that Boehner's office told him that H.R. 1022 does have the necessary sponsorship to get out of Committee and that Boehner expects the bill to pass the House.

    Time to pour it on if your Representative is on the House Judiciary Committee and if not, time to start prepping your Representatives to oppose this bill at every turn if it makes it out of Committee.
     
  7. wolfman01

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    So much for "nothing" happening over the next two years like some thought. :mad: :cuss: :banghead: :fire:
     
  8. 280PLUS

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    Middle of the road politics, I expect he'll sign it should it reach his desk. It'll be interesting to watch. Meanwhile, I've already got the guns I need.
     
  9. coyote_jr

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    Hey, at least we're armed.:D
     
  10. Ridgeway

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    Indeed not only far earlier than expected, but I'm still slightly stunned that they are going straight for an all out 'assault weapon' type ban.
    I anticipated a .50 bmg ban first- which would likely have been far easier & met with less opposition. Perhaps as a prelude to a new AWB...
     
  11. High Planes Drifter

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    When is the judiciary commitee supposed to vote on hr 1022?

    edited : nevermind I found it, next week.
     
  12. metallic

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    I'm cutting up my membership card if the NRA doesn't get on this soon. Any word yet on whether GOA has mobilized yet?
     
  13. PatriotAr15

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    Will it ban Parts?

    Will this HR 1022 ban spare parts for my guns? (Ar15, XD45, and FNFAL):confused:
     
  14. .cheese.

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    Need more stuff..... NOW!

    time to buy.....

    *gone gun shopping before it's too late*
     
  15. High Planes Drifter

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    I dont know if this has been posted yet, but here is a link to e-mail all of the judiciary committee:

    http://akeyboardanda45.blogspot.com/2007/02/easy-way-to-contact-house-judiciary.html

    Here's my letter:
     
  16. steveracer

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    This was my email to the committee.

    The Committee,
    I'm writing to express my opposition to HR 1022, as well as any and all weapons bans in the US, current, future, or past. I have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies. Any supporter of this bill is supporting a blatant civil rights violation, and supporting further degredation of the Constitution and the People of these United States.
    I will continue to serve as sworn, and I call upon The Committee to do the same.
    Very Respectfully,
    XXXXXX H XXXX
    Virginia Beach, VA


    Please write them.
     
  17. BrennanKG

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    Emails sent both to the committee, and my US Rep.


    B.
     
  18. Malone LaVeigh

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    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1022

    Still says "no cosponsors." Boehner wouldn't play politics with this, would he?
     
  19. scurtis_34471

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    I knew plenty of you would take the Constitutional approach, so I went with a different argument. I figure it can't hurt to hit this from multple angles.

    Dear Members of the House Judiciary Committee,

    I am very disturbed by the contents of H.R. 1022, which severely curtails the Constitutional rights of millions while doing virtually nothing to stop crime. The Clinton “Assault Weapon” Ban did nothing to reduce the crime rate. Furthermore, less than 2% of gun crimes are carried out with rifles. This bill is a solution in search of a problem. Before you vote to send this bill to the House, consider what it will realistically accomplish. I will not “keep guns off our streets.” It will not disarm criminals. It will not make it more difficult for criminals to obtain guns by illegal means. The only thing it will do is deprive citizens of the hunting and home defense rifles that have been legal and available for over 100 years.

    Those of you who are not familiar with firearms may not realize exactly what this bill bans. Most of the weapons covered by this bill are commonly used for hunting and target shooting. Some of them use designs that are well over 50 years old. The M1 Carbine has been a popular hunting rifle for decades. My stepfather uses one for deer hunting. The fact that it was once used by the military is neither here nor there. Many of the guns on your list are both too large for concealment and too expensive for most criminals to afford. Most crimes are committed with cheap throw-away guns, not $1500 AR-15 rifles. I should also point out that anyone with a criminal record cannot legally guy one anyway. In short, this bill targets weapons that are not commonly used in crimes at the expense of millions of honest sportsmen.
     
  20. Bartholomew Roberts

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    I don't doubt Boehner would play politics with this; so I look at the facts:

    14 Committee members co-sponsored this same legislation in last Congressional session (including the Committee Chairman). 4 more Committee members are on record supporting the concept of an AWB (they said they supported it in a news article or pushed a state AWB bill as a local rep). That means 2 votes (out of 4 Dems and 14 Reps) to come out of Committee.

    As to co-sponsors, when McCarthy introduced this same legislation as H.R. 1312 in the 109th Congress, she introduced it on March 15, 2005 and did not have a single co-sponsor join her until April 14, 2005. She eventually ended up with 94 co-sponsors. Her previous effort in 2003 netted 111 co-sponsors.

    H.R. 4296 - Chuck Schumer's AWB that passed the House in 1994 had only 61 co-sponsors at the time of its floor vote. It passed the House 216-214.

    Boehner might well be playing politics; but there are ample facts to suggest we should be concerned regardless of whether he is playing politics or not. I'd much rather write a letter I didn't need to write than take a "wait & see" attitude that allows this thing to gain any traction because it is a bad, bad, bad bill.
     
  21. Lobotomy Boy

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    My letter to the judiciary committee:
     
  22. metallic

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    FYI, the NRA is finally starting to mobilize:

     
  23. Thin Black Line

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    I received the NRA email on this bill today.....
     
  24. thumper723

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    In cases like this, I view the NRA as a Freight Train..

    Slow to get moving, but has a lot of energy behind it as it does..

    Us "Keyboard Commandos" who email, call and write letters are essentially a small, quick reaction force. Look how fast we swarmed Zumbo. However, for a long, drawn out fight, our letter writing peters out.

    While in my personal ideology, the NRA is not perfect, they are a big force to be reckoned with.

    I'll take the group that has a 70% ideological match that gets results 70% of the time. While GOA is more in line with my personal views, some middle of the road pols dismiss them as exrememist.

    The NRA does have the clout to get things done with the fence sitters. Also, it does probably scare some closet gun banners into inaction.
     
  25. bigtuna

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    I'm moving later this year to a state (Hawaii) which requires gun registrations, from a state (Virginia) which does not.

    Part of my collection includes a Bushmaster AR-15 A3 M4 rifle. I know these are targetted by the AWB2 bill, and I'm unclear about the grandfathering.

    I have over 1,000 rounds of ammo, which would require registration, fees, and unannounced ATF home-inspections if the federal gov't tries again to get the Gun Violence Protection Act of 1994 (S.1878) (H.R.3932) to go through (this is ultimately what they want, the AWB and AWB2 are watered down versions of it). I'm also planning to get a Benelli semi-auto shotgun, which would be banned under the AWB2 bill.

    I'm very concerned about registering my guns after I move to Hawaii, as I wouldn't want them to be taken away either New Orleans Nagin-style, or because of AWB2. I'm required to take them to the police and have them registered within 72 hours after they arrive in the state (they arrive as luggage at the airport and go straight home, uninspected).

    I'm dreading this decision to register to them. I'm just unclear how this grandfathering thing is going to work, plus I don't have any receipts showing when I purchased them.
     
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