Mopar, In areas where sport hunting of big cats (lions) has recently been outlawed. The lions killed for depredation purposes quickly out numbers the trophy hunting kills. Botswana being a prime example. Now when you make a statement like the "The African guides" who exactly are you talking about? If you are referring to PH's they are strictly limited in the number of cats they can kill by the various game departments of the various countries they are hunting in. They don't just go out and shoot lions willy nilly and haven't for at least 50 years. Furthermore the only big cats with population concern that is hunted is the lion and is under strict control at the moment a wild lion hunt today is becoming very expensive and very hard to find due to conservation efforts. Leopard populations are extremely healthy in all areas that allow hunting of them. There is only one country that allows the hunting of cheetahs on an extremely limited basis and that is Namibia. So exactly which big cats are you referring to? I am curious where you are getting your myopic and politically charged "information" from when you make a statement like "The African Guides will hunt out the big cats". The very gall of that statement is emotionally charged incorrect and very suspiciously animal rights org driven. Is that where you read it in animal rights literature ? Because in reality it's the PH's and their various organizations that are now and have been in the past the folks who have recommended and implemented most of the truly effect conservation and game management policies that are so effective in Africa today. There has not been one single incidence of an animal rights org implementing one single effective policy that has contributed to the salvation and population growth of any animals world wide and in Africa in particular. Please lets not let the facts get in the way of our opinions however.