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Annihilating Boy Toys

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  1. Drizzt

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    Annihilating Boy Toys
    Peace On Earth = No Fun for Sons.

    By Carrie Lukas

    For kids, Christmas means toys. For boys in particular, the hottest toys often have a martial theme — BB guns, army men, light sabers and the like.

    But this Christmas season, some parents trudging to the malls for G.I. Joes have had to meet the politically correct platoons now infiltrating the local Toys R' Us.

    Code Pink, a leftist women's outfit that's a fixture at antiwar rallies, is taking a break from protesting real conflict in Iraq to campaign against so-called "war toys." As the Pink website warns: "Every holiday season manufactures prey on our children with pro-war propaganda disguised as innocent toys. Don't let your child be a victim of G.I. Joe!"

    I feel compelled to note that the gracefully aging ladies of Code Pink obviously never have watched an actual G.I. Joe cartoon since the Real American Hero's enemies are famous for rolling, flying, or parachuting their way out of danger. The Teletubbies have a better kill rate than Joe and his comrades.

    Nevertheless, Code Pink is calling for parents to boycott purveyors of pretend weaponry. Fair enough, I suppose. If American parents really think that a cowboy hat and plastic six shooter will turn their little darling into a senseless killer, then by all means: Send a message by buying "The Rainforest Playset" or "Sensitivity: The Boardgame" instead. Voting with your dollars — it's the free market at work. Code Pinkers horrified by a foam ninja throwing stars or a water gun can avoid these things and argue that others should too.

    Yet Code Pink goes way beyond the venerable boycott. While the group urges activists to don pink camouflage and distribute sidewalk propaganda on the evils of war toys, it also instructs would-be peace warriors to pursue their campaign inside stores.

    One suggested tactic is the "buy and return." The idea is for activists themselves to purchase war toys and then head straight to customer service. There they return the offending products while engaging in a verbal strike — imploring managers to take "violent" toys off the shelves and pestering fellow customers about war toys' dangers. (Certainly, there's no better way to win converts than to gum up the return and exchange lines during the holiday rush.) Code Pink suggests pre-arranging local media to cover the impending ruckus.

    At least Code Pink's "buy and return" silliness is probably legal. Operation "Stick It To 'Em," however, encourages activists to deface private property by placing surgeon general-style warning labels on offending toys. The Code Pink website includes helpful samples that, they explain, are easily printed on sticky mailing labels. One sums up the heart of the campaign: "Violent Toys=Violent Boys."

    That equation just doesn't add up. Clearly, not all toys are virtuous or appropriate for children. Video games like Grand Theft Audio, in which players can decapitate police officers (or alternatively, set them on fire or brutalize them with a chainsaw), are unhealthy for children — and probably for everyone else. Some toys have few redeeming values.

    Yet there's a big difference between GTA: Vice City and G.I. Joe, plastic army men, or Super Soakers. As Code Pink says, wars — real wars — aren't games. But the reverse also is true: Games aren't wars. Neither research nor common sense supports quashing the natural tendency of little boys to play soldier, cowboy, or cop. And like it or not, violence is a reality in the world and soldiers and policemen aren't villains to most Americans. These professions embody the discipline, responsibility, and self-sacrifice that most parents want to nurture in their children. What better way for kids to express admiration and explore these virtues than through games and make believe?

    Sometimes games turn ugly. Rough-and-tumble play can lead to bruised egos as well as bruised knees and elbows. Parents should set limits and exercise supervision to ensure that games and play don't go too far. Such parental involvement — teaching limits and under what circumstances aggressive behavior is appropriate — will do far more to shape boys into honorable young men than costumed whining at toy stores.

    — Carrie Lukas is the director of policy at the Independent Women's Forum.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lukas200512220840.asp
     
  2. shaldag

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    some people need to get a life. I know a lot of parents who would never buy "toy guns" for their children, and I have watched some of those children "make" toy guns out of sticks, etc.

    For myself, I don't really think that I will worry too much about toy guns. But I am paying very close attention to the threads on these forums like "at what age should I take my duaghter to the range?"
     
  3. Valkman

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    They are right! Skip the toy crap and get 'em a .22 - lots more fun. :D
     
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    code pink! awaiting reply to this

    Hello Code Pink!
    I must comfess that upon hearing of your anti-war-toy program,my initial thought was not about how well balanced and rational you were. I had to 'do a google' to verify that such an group truly existed! A quick perusal of your web site has led me to address you here.
    As you can well imagine being a Father of a ten year old son, a Southerner and a despiser of all things PC, Nanny state, Blissninny and Moonbat My initial reaction was ***!;
    However very little cognization was required arrive at the conclusion that you were in fact and un-deniably ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ! Please be informed that from this point in time I have deprived my son of of all such toys. After having a sit down talk with him about History, Rights and the duty of a Father to raise his Son into a responsible Citizen of this Great Republic of Ours, He too saw that playing with toy guns;and its ilk;Playing cops and robbers, cowboys and indians;GI and whoever was the bad guy 'de jour,' de- humanized the other and made killing them a public service,instead of an act against God and Man! My son will never be raised to be a mindless destroyer of humanity!
    So now he has a CZ .22 rifle complete with scope, and a Smith and Wesson .22 revolver! My my he will never ever PLAY, with guns again!
    Thank you for helping me to see the light, and of course if there is anything I can do to help , do not hesitate to give me a chance to further our commitment to eliminating these evil and depraved toys from our society! Also let me extend an offer
    to train any of your members and their children safe and sane gun handling and control.
    Keep your booger hooks of the bangswitch !!! ha ha
    Robert Garner
     
  6. jsalcedo

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    I was never allowed "violent" toys, books, comics, tv or movies as a child. I would have to buy my action hero pulp paperbacks and hide them in my socks to get them past my mother.

    Everything was off limits. Well Jokes on her. I made my own toy guns and swords and as an adult I've got more guns than I can count or remember.

    Am I a brainwashed violent misanthrope? Nope sorry. and I even play GTA III.

    When are these fools going to realize that consistant effective parenting
    is one of the only ways to keep kids from becoming sociopathic.

    Good article.
     
  7. silverbird

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    My mom tried to raise me that way....no toy guns. She quickly learned that it was a losing battle when I would make a gun out of a stick, properly shaped rock, or whatever else I could get my hands on. I still have a decent collection of toy guns from my youth :)

    Boys will be boys nomatter what the "Ladies in Pink" (or whatever their name is) try to do.
     
  8. Janitor

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    The only reason I have an AR15 is because some misguided individual got me a 'Johnny Seven OMA*' when I was a wee tot. I blame Hasbro and all the rest of the evil toy gun manufacturers for the fact that I buy ammo for my SKS 1100 rounds at a time.
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    * OMA = One Man Army
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  9. armoredman

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    Just guns? I got my son a Panzer IVH, a STuG IV, a M2 Bradley, an FAV, and all the little toy guns and action figures to go with them. He ain't gonna be violent - he's going to learn to command a bunch of violent people!
     
  10. 1911 guy

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    Hoo, Boy! These folks are nuts!

    I didn't have toy guns as a kid, either. We were too freaking poor! I got toys for Christmas (I can still say "Christmas", can't I?) but why spend cash on a toy gun when any stick will do? So far I've never robbed a liquor store or mugged an old lady, so my parents must have done something right. I'm in my mid thieties and have just recently bought my first BB gun. Had lots of actual firearms, but never a BB gun before. Well, I gotta go outside and play now.
     
  11. cpileri

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    Read Kim Du Toit

    Y'know, i was reading Kim Du Toit's article (with a famous and catchy, if somewhat vulgar title) and he makes a point in it that the 'pink ladies' help reinforce:

    If you watch little boys and little girls play, you see some striking differences. Little boys play, fight over the toys, run around, fight again, decide the toys aren't exciting enought so they begin to crash them into things, throw them, etc. Little girls play by establishing roles: the mommy, the daddy, the baby, etc. and if little boys play with them the boys are shoved into one of the roles and have to play within the confines of that role as defined, of course, by the little girls. If the boys dont 'play right' then they aren't playing anymore. The point is that little boys do what little boys do, and when they interact it sometimes is cooperative and sometimes is fighting and then they return to doing their own thing. But little girls want everyone to play like little girls.

    And when they grow up, and go into politics, these former little girls still want us all to play by thier rules.
    (paraphrased)

    This point was made in his blog, i believe. Have to admit, as 'chauvinist' as it sounds he has a point.
    C-
     
  12. TexasRifleman

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    I refused to buy my son any "toy guns" UNTIL he made a few out of sticks, tape, and empty paper towel rolls. After showing the proper imagination and initiative, then we moved into more realistic toys. I agree with the article 100% - Do not buy toy guns for your children (unless they make their own first) :evil:
     
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    Just because of this article, I'm going to go out this afternoon and buy my son MORE toy guns!

    Tom
    who's son keeps his toy sixgun on the nightstand, just like Daddy does with his CZ 75B :D
     
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    The feminists have had a War on Aggression (paradoxically) for over thirty years. Remove aggression from mankind and you have stagnation, decay. The problem isn't aggression, it's turning that aggression to noble and responsible ends. The more they come down on everything that makes boys boys, the more the distortions of thug rap and Grand Theft Auto there will be to fill the void.
     
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    Well hell - I turned out all right! :D

    I am convinced things have gone to hell in a handbasket :

    -Kids don't always have a firearm awaiting them to be born.
    -Kids are supposed to be yelled at umpteen times when supper is ready - kids are too busy riding bikes, shooting guns down the way, or putting lizards in pockets to surprise Mom on Wash day -to hear these umpteen hollerings.
    -Kids are supposed to be able to ride bikes, walk down the road, take a bus with their guns and fishing poles.
    -Kids are supposed to play Cowboy and Indians, Americans vs Germans, and if the damn Indians want to shoot arrows at the Germans - makes sense to me.
    -Kids do not have the parenting they should - meaning , amongst other things, going plinking, getting into shooting sports.
    -Kids do not get to bring guns and knives to school. That sucks, just how in the hell is a kid supposed to learn WoodShop stuff, sharpen knives, tweak stocks, and make knife handles?
    -Kids had to learn 911. What? With the new math they are not supposed to learn how to dial the "whole" phone number -direct line to Law Enforcement?
    -Malls are total waste of good rifle ranges, indoor shooting ranges and I know for a fact some great hunting areas today are gone. Hell if was a critter I'd be pissed off too.
    -Kids don't have balconies in Picture Shows, and No More Drive In Picture shows - at times a kid needs a break from firearms. Learning Anatomy and Physiology is a good something to learn. I mean it helps to know what is where and where something goes...I learned about the triangle when I was a kid, Nose and Nipples, put a shot there and lights out. Later I learned about the triangle when the lights were out...


    Nope, sorry man, ain't buying this PC crap.

    Nation of Winners not Whiners.
    Nation of Survivors not Sensitivity Freaks.

    Oh, more thing:

    Skinny bicycle tires. Just how in the hell is a kid supposed to learn how to hit a moving target with a wimpy tire that won't hold a pc of cardboard right?

    Hell in a handbasket I tell ya.

    :D
     
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    My 11 year old wants my 9mm Hi-Point Carbine... I'm not sure a .22 would do it for her...
     
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    You forgot golf courses....

    Or is this where the golf courses come in? :D
     
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    Who wants to email her and tell her the game is Auto?

    And it isn't that fun. Quite boring really. Area 51, FEAR, WoW, Empire Earth, now those are fun. (Especially Area 51, makes GTA 3 look like a girls game.)
     
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    :D That's great!
     
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    Your post was great.:)

    I attribute it to the wussification of man! I'm sick of seeing boys told that they can't do something that's totally harmless because it's PC to do so. Let boys be boys and they'll grow up fine. Be a friggin parent and teach them the things they need to know and they'll be fine. What right and wrong mean and to mind their manners.

    Stop hovering over them and turning them into pansies! Let them know what's it's like to lose a game or not come in first or always be the best. That way when they grow up they will know what it's like and what being a good sport is all about.
     
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    ....I remember my dad making a toy gun (made to look like a semi-auto pistol...and really close to a Colt 1903/08) from wood which he painted. I wish I still had it too so I could have given it to one of my boys when they were young....but according to Code Pink, that would have made me bad, bad dad like my dad.
     
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    50 shooter: +1
     
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    I made a pretend Lewis gun by nailing a can on top of a baseball bat;
    my cousin and I cut "L" shaped pieces of board and pretended they
    were Army .45s. If you outlaw toy guns, ....
     
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    I had toy guns, violent games (I played Resident Evil at 8 or 9) and watched all sorts of violent movies growing up, but I'm harmless. I'm even more harmless than most of the people/kids I know who aren't/weren't allowed to do the things I did.
    So my conclusion: They're wrong.
     
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    The children of these blissninnys will rebel, overcome their 'issues', and become radical right wing warmongers. Take that, CodePink. :p
     
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