Annoyed at History Channel show

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So I was watching a little bit of this show on the History Channel about the 2002 D.C. "sniper" shootings. So I was watching and then the narrator said: "An incredible 100 to 200 yards away. The only weapon capable of such precision is a high-caliber rifle. Forsythe realized he’s not just up against a guy with a gun, he is facing off with a highly skilled sniper. The long distance of the shot a testament to killer’s terrible skill."

Now, I'm quite confident that I could teach any boy scout with his rifle merit badge to make a 100 yard shot with a .22 in about 20 minutes. 100 to 200 yards is very far from being 'incredible' there are thousands of deer shot at twice that range every fall. You don't need a "high-caliber rifle" to make a 100 yard shot, any firearm in a legal sense can make 100 yard shot. The ignorance of the show was disgusting, why TV shows and the media don't do a little research, or ask someone with knowledge before taking their product to market I will never understand. Okay, rant over now.
 
Stop setting your expectations so high. My grandfather used to say, "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see and you get mostly truth."
 
"A shot at moderate range like this can easily be accomplished by a shooter with a minimal amount of training with any rifle caliber." Just does not have the same impact on the sheep as what was stated on the show.

It's ALL about the hype.
 
"An incredible 100 to 200 yards away. The only weapon capable of such precision is a high-caliber rifle. Forsythe realized he’s not just up against a guy with a gun, he is facing off with a highly skilled sniper. The long distance of the shot a testament to killer’s terrible skill."
Lots of drama there. Makes for good sound bites and scares the sheep.

How much drama would they get with: "Most rifle shooters can put five shots within one inch at 100 yards with a good rifle"?
 
Is anyone honestly surprised at this? Really? I got turned off to History/Discovery Channels when I was into military jets (real crappy/false/exaggerated info). They serve to sell commercials. That's all. And most people want over-dramatized fluff, not actual facts.
 
Yep - the "History" Channel is irking me more and more each day.

They have begun revising "History" to Liberal standards and "Channeling" it down the viewers' throats. Give me SyFy or give me death! :cool:
 
Yep - the "History" Channel is irking me more and more each day.

They have begun revising "History" to Liberal standards and "Channeling" it down the viewers' throats. Give me SyFy or give me death! :cool:
Meh, I'd rather get off my ass and go shoot something. :D


Maybe one day I'll own a High-caliber rifle and be able to make amazing shots at 100-200 YARDS! :what:

Oh wait my Ruger 10/22 will plink bottles at 100 yards already. :evil:
 
Yep - the "History" Channel is irking me more and more each day.

They have begun revising "History" to Liberal standards and "Channeling" it down the viewers' throats. Give me SyFy or give me death!
Sadly, I no longer get the Military Channel, so History Channel is my best option left.
 
When I was in college a girl brought her father's deer rifle to one of the college's greens, lay down on the gentle hill, and shot at two people. She killed one and wounded the other. She instantly became a "The Sniper." The quad where she shot was next to my dorm (I heard the shots) and I later paced off the distance to about 70 yds. Some "sniper." This kind of hyperbole is nothing new.

-Sam
 
They still have history on the History Channel?

I stopped watching years ago when all I'd see on there (and Discovery too) were horse manure pseudo-sciences shows like "Monster Hunters" "Secrets of 2012" "The Bible Unmasked" "The Lost Man Eating Ghost Sharks of Galapagos Island" etc.

The worst was when the DaVinci codes movies come out. Pretty much 24 hour blocks of ripoff shows trying to cash in on that.
 
As stupid as it is, which would you rather have, this crap about these guys being "snipers", or have them telling all the uneducated sheeple that anyone with a rifle and the knowledge to use it could easily pull off these shots? My guess is the liberal weenies would be more scared by the thought of millions of firearms owners in this country being able to do exactly what these guys did if they were so inclined, than they are by the thought that these guys were "highly trained snipers". If they knew the truth they might be scared(unnecessarily) and become more apt to support gun control. Normally this kinda garbage is dangerous to our 2nd amendment, but in this case, maybe it's better the plebes don't know.
 
110 yards is "between 100 and 200 yards away", I suppose. It's "between 100 and 1000 yards away", too.

In media-speak, I can "bench press between 175 and 750 pounds." Fear me! :scrutiny:

AFAIK, the longest shot was just over 100 yards, and most were between 50 and 100.
 
When the individual who identified himself as a 'sniper' said that the street in front of his 'nest' was littered with so many corpses that wild dogs were coming out of alleys to eat them I decided that this show was a complete waste of my time and that none of these individuals are worthy of the title 'soldier' or 'marine'.


"7.62 means it has more powder" - actual quote
 
"An incredible 100 to 200 yards away. The only weapon capable of such precision is a high-caliber rifle. Forsythe realized he’s not just up against a guy with a gun, he is facing off with a highly skilled sniper. The long distance of the shot a testament to killer’s terrible skill."


Wow! That's great to know. 100-200 yards....gee that's amazing! My lady shoots nearly perfect scores at 200 yards and I shot a 500/500 and a 499/500 at 200.

I wonder what those knot heads would say at our 600 yard matches?

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The bad thing is there are probably millions of non gun owners that will believe that show is entirely accurate.
That is what we are dealing. The public is educated by the media.
I was talking to a couple of gun owners last week and mentioned that I bought an AR. These guys were long time hunters. Both of them thought my "Assault Weapon" was full auto. Lifetime gun owners didn't even know better. What hope is there for some doofus living in the suburbs that has never held a gun in his life?
 
I was talking to a couple of gun owners last week and mentioned that I bought an AR. These guys were long time hunters. Both of them thought my "Assault Weapon" was full auto. Lifetime gun owners didn't even know better. What hope is there for some doofus living in the suburbs that has never held a gun in his life?

You can say that again. Many, many gun owners, henceforth known as Fudds, have the same anti handgun/"assault weapon" feelings that antis have. If it's not a 28" barreled shotgun or a blackpowder muzzleloader, what do you need it for? Is their attitude.
 
My grandfather used to say, "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see and you get mostly truth."

Hmm, my FTO had the same opinion....

For media I think we should discount what we see to 10% maybe 1% if firearms are involved.
 
Man, 100 to 200 yards away rates the "sniper" tag?
Worse. 50 to 120 yards.

Of course, I think the media called the nut shooting at traffic with a Beretta 9mm pistol some years ago a "sniper" also. Fear sells papers/magazines/airtime, and scary buzzwords help.
 
Lately it seems "The History Channel" has become the "All Nostradamus, All the Time" channel.

Man is that true...and remember when Discovery and TLC actually showed good documentaries and whatnot? Where the heck did "Cash Cab" and all the crappy design and cooking shows come in? All I can watch anymore is Sports Center and VS.

By the way, most guys I went through Basic Training with made 300 meter shots on pop-up targets with open sighted M-16's...maybe not consistently, but we could do it. That should probably hold true for just about any Army/Marine (I don't know much about the other branches) basic training company.
 
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