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Annoying situation at Walmart

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by swmp40c, Jan 21, 2011.

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  1. swmp40c

    swmp40c Member

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    I was recently at my local Walmart browsing the ammunition and ran into an odd fellow.

    He asked the lady for a box of ammo and then got his money out to pay. The cashier asked for his ID and he went off on her. He said "It is not a law for me to show my ID!" She stated that it was store policy, and he proceeded to remind her that "Walmart is not law enforcement, they can't make their own laws up!" "Walmart is ridiculous with their rules, and trying to police things!" After stating the same things over about 5 times each he asked for the manager. The manager came over and backed up exactly what the cashier said, and he gave the manager the exact same speech about 25 times...no exaggeration. I felt so sorry for the manager. The guy was obviously a nutcase and would not leave. Why the heck is he shopping for ammo at Walmart if he despises them so much? I say he needs to shop elsewhere and get over it.
     
  2. Glock Doctor

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    Some people are exceedingly passionate about their Second Amendment rights. That's fine; however, the social and political damage these, '2A zealots' do, while myopically attempting to asserts their constitutional rights, often does less to help our cause with the general public, and more to universally harm the few gun rights we have left.

    There are other better ways to make friends for the Second Amendment than either: confronting, startling, or challenging those other people with whom you disagree. Your guy should have been smart enough to either take his ammunition business elsewhere, or to buy a large block of Wal-Mart preferred stock and, then, attempt to force a corporate policy revision at the next stockholders' meeting.
     
  3. 1KPerDay

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    Socially inept people shop at Wal-Mart? :uhoh:
     
  4. 2WheelsGood

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    I completely agree with Walmart's policy. Walmart is not a gun store; they're a glorified grocery store. Having a policy that prevents kids from buying ammo is a very smart one from a public image standpoint. Walmart was thrust into the spotlight for selling the AZ killer ammo, can you imagine if some 12 year old kid bought ammo at a Walmart, and shot some kid in his middle school class? Whether you agree with the policy or not, it's an extremely smart one. The option is them not selling ammo, and I'd be quite sad if they didn't.
     
  5. Sam1911

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    The issue isn't even a 2nd Amendment one. A store is allowed to set pretty much whatever policies it desires regarding who it will sell an item to, and under what circumstances.

    That STORE POLICY (not law) is how Walmart chooses to proceed in order to try and meet the federal rules on sales of ammo to minors.

    They don't have to ask for prove of age, but they choose to do so. There's not a "darn" thing he can do about it but take his business elsewhere.

    All he managed to do was prove that he isn't very educated, and doesn't understand how to "vote with his wallet" (whether he's right or wrong).

    There are instances where it is CRUCIAL that we act as "2nd Amendment Zealots" to resist abuses and infringements by those in power. This was not only not one of those instances, but it was an ineffectual and unnecessarily off-putting, misdirected, protest at best.
     
  6. FNX-9

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    The last couple of times that i have bought ammo at Wal-Mart they have not asked for my ID, so either the policy was not enforced or it is a store by store policy.
     
  7. Robert

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    People do know that the Constitution only applies to the Government infringing or impeding our rights correct? Private companies can set any policy they want, we as consumers have the ability to shop elsewhere if we desire.
     
  8. wishin

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    I suppose he's entitled to his rant until someone boots him out for disturbing the peace.:uhoh:
    I have trouble understanding why, as an obvious 70 year old I must show ID to purchase something as innocuous as single beer. Seems to me there should be some common sense sprinkled in these laws.
     
  9. 22-rimfire

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    This was not a battle he was going to win, so why fight it at all. I doubt Walmart will miss his business if it came to that. I believe he just wanted to give them a tongue lashing. You need to pick your battles in life.

    There is one WM store that still has the 6-box limit on ammunition sales in my area. WM changed this policy approaching a year ago, but they claim it is still WM policy. I made some comments but in the end, I can just shop at a different WM. I suggested the manager visit one of the other WM's and see for himself.
     
  10. Russ Jackson

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    Did they want to scan his ID or just see it?...Russ
     
  11. Sam1911

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    They just want to see it. This has been covered somewhere around 4 million times, here, but when Walmart sells ammunition that is coded in their system as particularly applicable to use in handguns, the cash register pops up a question that the sales person is supposed to ask: "Are you over 21?"

    If you say, show, prove, etc. that you are so, then they hit "Yes," and proceed with the sale.

    That's it.
     
  12. DM~

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    Was that YOU standing next to me when that happened??? :)

    Just kidding... I did buy several boxes of 16ga. shotshells from a WW in New York State the other day, and they didn't ask me for my ID.

    DM
     
  13. Nagant

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    Some folks are just plain nuts. This guy was obviously not thinking... clearly...
     
  14. merlinfire

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    Going from calm to animated in that short of a time over something this minor is....well....someone might wanna keep an eye on this guy, he might be the next AZ shooter.
     
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    Not a surprise given Walmart's clientele.
     
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    Heck at least here (and I'm guessing everywhere) it's a bit more annoying than that. When I buy 22 LR or .17 HMR it asks if its for a handgun or rile then asks if i'm 18 or 21. No biggy but a minor annoyance to be sure.
     
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    I have never been asked for my ID when buying ammo at Wally World. I do get impatient when you have to wait a half-hour for somebody with the key to show up and unlock the case, though.
     
  18. buck460XVR

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    Asking for ID to confirm age is not only a Wal-Mart policy, I have seen the same at several Mom and Pop hardware stores. The customer was just being an jerk. He either was trying to demonstrate his superior intellect over the average Wal-Mart employee or had something to hide by not showing his ID. Me wonder why he protests so much? Either way. had he complied, he coulda had his ammo and been on his way in just a few minutes.
     
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    In order to buy beer or wine at Target, everybody has to show ID with proof of age, no matter how old you look.
     
  20. Nikdfish

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    As a rule, they never ask for mine ... but maybe the grey beard has something to do with it :)

    Nick
     
  21. Tob

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    He has a right to buy ammo wherever he wants, but businesses have a right to set policy.
    As a poster above said, he was not going to win this battle.
    He chose to stay and argue: He enjoys arguing. Possibly a trait maturity will cure in time. Quite possibly not.
     
  22. mshootnit

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    I almost never buy anything at Wal mart, well ok almost nothing. I dislike the way they treat everyone as if they are a criminal. Can I see whats in your bag? What about those tire center doors that don't open when you want to leave? Ever feel trapped in? I think they are a horrible example of how to treat people but unfortunately I think they are a bellweather for the way we all are to be treated in the future, by business, our neighbors, and our government. I actually fear for my children and their children.
     
  23. 2WheelsGood

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    Why? I just bought a gun cabinet for FAR less than I could find it anywhere else, and everyone was as nice and helpful as can be.
     
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  24. elcaminoariba

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    Complaining about wal mart but still shopping there, and even still buying ammo there? lol This is classic modern American hypocritical behavior. I'll bet the guy posts on several gun boards, maybe even this one.
     
  25. Blue Line

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    those guys even ask for my ID when I bought beer there
     
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