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Another anti-Second Amendment columnist who doesn't get it

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Lobotomy Boy, Apr 19, 2007.

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  1. Lobotomy Boy

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    Howard Fineman from Newsweek: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18161645/site/newsweek/

    We should give this a good read to see where the anti movement is heading. Judging from Fineman's slavish devotion to mythos over logos, their arguments will be so lacking in logic that they will be easy to destroy.
     
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    I think he makes a lot of positive points for us, among them the fact that the Dems he talked to know that gun control fatal for their candidates.
    He also provides this great quote, which sums up a lot of what I feel:
    He never explains why he thinks these are bad things though. Maybe he's a gunnie in disguise?
     
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    Independence, protection of land and suspicion of all government is what founded this country.
     
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    I took his lack of explanation to mean that he is either unaware of or in denial about the complete lack of logic in his argument.
     
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    LB, I believe it is more of a cultural bias of his East Coast upbringing. In Washington D.C. suspicion of goverment is heresy.

    If you read the article again, you can see that it's a lament of the Eloi. "Woe, to us, if only you backward hicks would surrender your rights and allow the elite to rule you."
     
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    I just sent him this email. It will be interesting to see if I get a response.

     
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    Excellent response, PP! Thank you for taking the time and effort to send the author a reasoned response. I did not respond because I was too annoyed to be reasonable. I've settled down a bit. Could you please post an email address where we can send Mr. Fineman letters that are as well-reasoned (hopefully)?

    This is a perfect example of how we can effectively protect our Constitutional rights.
     
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    Please remind this gentleman about what happened in Germany right after they enacted gun control in the '30's.

    Or in Russia, or China, or a dozen other countries where citizens were disarmed.
     
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    While references to Nazis and Communists are accurate, I believe they will make a letter much less productive than the carefully thought out piece posted above. The general public sees words like "Nazi" and "Communist" and immediately dismisses the writer as a nut-job member of the lunatic fringe.
     
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    Anti's are not deterred by facts. They are not interested in facts. Anti's operate in a limbo state and don't want to be nudged from that position of comfort. If you listen closely to what they say, their logic is skewed and they are seldom in possession of facts. They don't even take the time to even know about what they abhor.

    Having said that, keep on pounding them with facts. Keep on pounding them with logic. Invite them to shoot. Make them listen to you by remaining calm and knowledgeable. Every once in awhile we get a convert. The rest of the time they remain fearful of our position and like most timid folks, don't have the courage to stand up for their conviction. That's right. They are timid. That's why they never ascribe to action, only conversation.
     
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    Thanks LB! His email address is right there on the article, just under his name at the top.
     
  12. Lobotomy Boy

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    My letter to Mr. Fineman:

     
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