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Another "best" rifle for everything thread

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by jdh, Oct 9, 2011.

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  1. jdh

    jdh Member

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    The contents of my gun safe did not survive the Great Bastrop Labor Day Conflagration. Texas deer season starts in a month. Having just lost over 40 long guns (leaving the handguns for another day) and having very poor insurance coverage on guns (will be corrected during the post-rebuilding policy update and review), I have decided I can replace one hunting rifle for the present. I thought I wanted a CZ550 Ultimate Hunting Rifle. CZ-USA said they have not received any for at least the past three months. So that one is out.

    If you were buying a rifle for north american hunting from a 50 yard shot on a 100# deer (on of the few things that are not bigger in Texas) to a 300 yard shot on a rocky mountain moose and maybe an occasional trip to a 600 yard range for bragging rights with the hunting partners, what would it be and why?
     
  2. Shadow 7D

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    I'll take Shotguns for $1000 Alex

    Followed closely by...
    a combo gun in 20ga/.22 (Hornet preferably)
    I'd like something with a magazine capacity/repeating, but that combo will get pretty much everything out there.
     
  3. W.E.G.

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  4. TGReaper

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    For me the answer to the make/model is easy Winchester Mod.70
    The cartridge is one of two possibilities. Either 30-06 or if you like to reload and tailor ammunition to the occasion .375 H&H. This is not a joke, anyone that uses a .375 H&H a lot will confirm that they waste less eating meat than almost any of the more popular cartridges.( It also makes people look at you funny)

    TGR
     
  5. armoredman

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    I like WEGs...

    I have a light CZ 527M in 7.62x39mm that would eaily handle the first requirement, but at 300 yards I get a huge drop, and I don't think I could reach 600 yards with any regularity. ;)
    Hoe about the 550 American in .308?
     
  6. NYH1

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    I'd recommend a 280 Remington. It'll work for your hunting needs just fine. I'm sure you can shoot it out to 600 yards just as well, if not better then most non-magnum cartridges. My limit is 300 yards for hunting. The 280 Rem. is 7mm /.284 caliber and there are a lot of bullets available from 100 gr. to 175 gr. The shoulder on the 280 Rem. is about .050" farther forward then both the 270 Win. and 30-06 Spr. (which are GREAT cartridges too!) meaning it will hold a tad more powder then the other two. Hand loaders can take advantage of the extra case capacity.

    There aren't as many rifles chambered in the 280 Rem. as other more popular cartridges. However it's an awesome cartridge. There are some really good factory loads available for it too.

    Using Remington 140 gr. Core-Lokt Pointed Soft Points I zero mine rifle at 200 yards. It's almost right on at 50 yards, around 2 inches high at 100 yards, it's down around 7 inches at 300 yards and down around 20 inches at 400 yards. Like I said, I won't shoot past 300 yards, at least until I get more practice. Never seen a deer or anything else while hunting in my area more then 300 yards anyway's.

    Good NYH1! ;)
     
  7. Mike1234567

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    Wow, I'm sorry you lost so much in the fire. After seeing all that devastation on the news I had my little two acres near cleaned up.

    What about a .270 Win?
     
  8. Geno

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    Sorry to hear about your loss. That is rough! I would take a serious look at:

    Winchester M70 in either 7-08 Rem or .308 Win

    --or--

    Weatherby Vanguard 2 in either 7-08 Rem or .308 Win

    Geno
     
  9. mortablunt

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    It's either an AK-47 with a skeleton stock or it's a Mosin-Nagant m91/30.
     
  10. Legionnaire

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    To rebuild efficiently and economically, I'd find a good second hand Remington 700 BDL in .30-06, and then buy a single-stage reloading press and dies. Tailoring the many available bullet weights and styles into the different loads you need, you can handle everything from plinking rounds to high power hunting loads for everything shy of grizzly. And the ought-six will make 600 yards easily; with match ammo it'll go past 1000.
     
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    Sorry to hear about our loss. I'd go with my CZ 550FS in .308. CZ reliability, light weight, balance, accuracy and the versatile .308 cartridge. What's not to like? I almost forgot, it sports iron sights as well as being scope ready.
     
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    Make mine a Winchester 94 in .30-30 with a peep sight.
     
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    AK47 for me, please!
     
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    jdh, sorry to hear about your misfortune.

    While reading your post, I was thinking Marlin 30-30, right up until I read the part about 600 yards. Although I'm a big fan of the .308, I think I'd have to go 30-06 on this one. I shoot my .308 most of the time, but I still have the 06 for when I need a bit more.
     
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    I'll admit that when I argued for .30-30 I was consciously ignoring the 600 yard comment.

    I am not a good enough shot and never will be a good enough shot to hunt at 600 yards. Period. I could not even pretend to offer a suggestion for that.

    Instead, I offered up a suggestion that will take any game in the lower 48 if the hunter is up to it. It's also a heck of a lot easier, in my opinion, to hunt small game and even some birds (turkey for ex) with a .30-30 than any .308 or .30-06 no matter how far down you load them.

    IMHO & all that. Hope it helps.
     
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    Treat yourself to a semi custom rifle from a place like E.R. Shaw in .280 AI or .264 win. Both are good long range numbers, though not very common, which is a plus in my book. Good bullet selection for both. After a loss like that, you deserve a treat.
     
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    My mom lost everything there also...she was in circle d. Didn't see much smoke and nobody came to evacuate, in fact early on a fireman told her to go home everything was ok. Left when things close by started to explode! Anyway back on topic, I will loan you a winchester 30-30 for deer season, I also have a yugo sks and a mosin 91-30. If you don't/can't find something to buy to suit ur needs for deer season maybe we can work out a loaner gun.

    I work in a pawn shop in Austin and I have a cz 550 premium on the shelf but I can't remember the caliber......it may be .223 but i'll check when I work on tuesday. It's a nice rifle but if i'm right on caliber it won't suit ur needs.
     
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    Enfield 2A !
     
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    7mm remington magnum Rifle, Stainless and higherend composite stock. As nice as a cz is and as well as some shoot the blue metal and nice wood would stop me from useing it as a rough country, bad weather hunter. Maybe the new ruger all weather hawkeye.
     
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    I don't know about your preferences for wood and steel.

    As to caliber and what you expect it to be capable of, it'd be hard to go wrong with a 30.06.

    salty
     
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    Tikka T3 in 6,5*55
     
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    Older Remngton 700 in 270 Win would suit you all around. Large ammo selection, find ammo in any store, flat trajectory, lighter recoil then a '06, what more could you want. I have a 270 that hits everything I point it at. JMO
     
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    Moose at 300m, or plinking at 600, something in a long cased .30 is necessary, as opposed to an intermediate like 7.62x39. That, and .30-30, are a joke, right? The drop at 600 is measured in yards, much less feet. Pretty funny.

    As for the extreme range distance, you're going to want more than one optic, that 50 yard whitetail will come down with a red dot, the 600 plinking needs a 4x12. So, get an easy to change rail receiver.

    DPMS .308 with a good trigger and call it done.
     
  24. 451 Detonics

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    I would seek out a 300 H&H. Depending on the load it will handle anything in the New World and has proven itself in long range by winning the Wimbledon Cup. If money was a concern you can find very well done sporters created from 1917 in the $500 range, Remington 721s for about the same. For more money a Remington 700 Classic or Winchester Model 70. If you are sitting flush a Blaser R8 Professional is about as good as it gets.
     
  25. oldpapps

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    Bad news, sorry,

    Role your own for the 300 Win Mag and run them out of a Savage, with a quality glass.
    110 to 220 grain options for most all needs.

    OSOK
     
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