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Another Example of Republicans doing NOTHING!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by hillbilly, Jul 28, 2005.

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  1. hillbilly

    hillbilly Member

    Jul 10, 2003
    I've read it at least hundreds of times on this board.

    Those Republicans are WORTHLESS because they don't do anything about bad guns laws.

    I mean the AWB would have sunset anyway. Republicans holding the White House and both houses of Congress had NOTHING to do with the AWB going away! Lots of people on this board have said so.....


    But, here's another story showing just how useless those Republicans really are.


    Senate leader takes no chance on NRA bill


    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON - Until lawmakers vote on a top-priority gun rights bill, nothing else happens in the Senate. And that includes Congress' prized monthlong vacation.

    That's the way Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has toughened up his style in the final days before the August break was to begin, learning from last year to leave no room for gun control advocates to derail legislation limiting lawsuits against the gun industry.

    Frist, R-Tenn., used Senate parliamentary procedures Wednesday to keep Democrats from dooming the measure with an amendment that would offend the National Rifle Association.

    Last year, the NRA abruptly withdrew its support from a similar bill after Democrats succeeded in adding a measure that would renew the expiring assault weapons ban. Frist took the bill down.

    But emboldened by a four-seat GOP gain in last November's elections, Frist this week cleared the floor of the $491 billion defense bill and replaced it with the gun liability bill sponsored by Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho.

    The bill would prohibit lawsuits against firearms manufacturers, dealers and importers for damages resulting from the unlawful use of a firearm or ammunition. It provides for some exceptions.

    Frist opened the formal debate Wednesday by presenting his own amendments. The parliamentary impact was to bar any other amendment. One after another, Democratic amendments were submitted and blocked by Craig, who also sits on the NRA's board of directors.

    Craig said the maneuver provided time for Republicans to examine the amendments.

    "There is no intent to block all amendments," Craig said.

    Frist's maneuver put Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in the unusual position of supporting both Craig's bill and his fellow Democrats' right to change it with amendments. Not even during the Senate's debate on judicial filibusters did Frist play such hardball, Reid said.

    "It's not in keeping with how he's done business here," Reid said. "I'm surprised."
  2. beerslurpy

    beerslurpy member

    Nov 8, 2004
    Spring Hill, Florida
    Awesome, so I can buy a newly manufactured machine gun then?

    The republicans have a long way to go. I think Frist is doing a good job, but that is no reason to let the heat up.

    I think complacency is the most dangerous thing at this point.
  3. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    They truly believe that the NRA owns the Republican party the way big unions own the Democrats. And that the NRA is totally out of touch with the beliefs of its membership in the same way big unions are.

    :rolleyes: If them believing this fantasy helps them deal with their world view, then so be it.
  4. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 26, 2002
    The bias in that reporting tweaks me though - they make it sound like it was Frist's decision to stop debate on the Defense Appropriations bill and move on to S.397. They didn't mention that the only reason that debate on the Defense bill stopped was because the Democrats filibustered it.
  5. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Counting chickens before they're hatched, are we, now?
  6. Dan from MI

    Dan from MI Member

    Jun 4, 2003
    Livingston County, MI
    Actually, it's don't count your (Orrin) Hatches before they chicken..... :banghead:
  7. c_yeager

    c_yeager Member

    Mar 14, 2003

    Is exactly what i like to see out government doing...
  8. roo_ster

    roo_ster Member

    Oct 2, 2003
    Yup, ol' Orrin has a disturbing habit of foling like a deck chair at the most inopportune moment.

    Kinda like a whole lot of the Republican officials.
  9. hillbilly

    hillbilly Member

    Jul 10, 2003
    Uh, looks like it's time to count them chickens.....

    Check out the paragraph in which Chappaquiddick Ted says the real reason the bill passed.

    Senate Votes to Guard Gunmakers From Suits By MARY DALRYMPLE, Associated Press Writer
    1 hour, 43 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Friday to shield firearms manufacturers, dealers and importers from lawsuits brought by victims of gun crimes, a measure opponents said had been ordered up by the gun lobby.

    The 65-31 vote passed a bill that supporters said protects the industry from financial disaster and bankruptcy caused by damage lawsuits.

    "This bill says go after the criminal, don't go after the law-abiding gun manufacturer or the law-abiding gun seller," said bill sponsor Sen. Larry Craig (news, bio, voting record), R-Idaho.

    But Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., and other opponents said the gun industry needs no such special protection. "This bill has one motivation — payback by the Bush administration and the Republican leadership of the Congress to the powerful special interest of the National Rifle Association," he said.

    Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., yanked similar legislation from debate last year when Democrats successfully attached an extension of the ban on assault-style weapons and the NRA dropped its support.

    Republicans picked up four more Senate seats in last November's election, emboldening gun rights supporters to try again.

    The House passed a similar bill last year but has taken no action on it this year.

    Democrats won inclusion this year of a new requirement that each handgun be sold with a separate child safety or locking device, unless purchased by government officials or police officers. Any violation could be punished by the suspension of a dealer's license, a $10,000 fine, or both.

    Craig said the bill does not block gunmakers and dealers from facing product liability, negligence or breach of contract suits.

    Its opponents, however, say the bill effectively exempts gun manufacturers from liability. They also say dealers sometimes let weapons get into the hands of people the law says shouldn't have them.

    Democrats tried and lost attempts to insert special provisions in the legislation that would let children and police retain the right to sue, along with another amendment that would have let individuals but not municipalities retain the right to sue.

    "Should those whose actions lead to the death or injury of a child get a free pass?" asked Sen. Frank Lautenberg (news, bio, voting record), D-N.J., who sponsored one amendment.

    Supporters of the liability bill said the changes would have gutted the bill.

    The Senate also brushed aside a Kennedy amendment that would have banned hollow-tipped, so-called "cop killer" bullets.

    The gun industry gave 88 percent of its campaign contributions, or $1.2 million, to Republicans in the 2004 election cycle. Gun control advocates, meanwhile, gave 98 percent of their contributions, or $93,700, to Democrats during that election, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
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