Another Gun show rant.

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I got da blues, I got the gun show blues.
When it comes to town, I can't refuse.
I hardly ever get a deal unless I want to steal.
The old one eyed man ain't got no sales appeal.
I got da blues, I got the gun show blues.

I don't come here for the cheerful smiles and
Some times I walk for miles
up and down the dirty aisles
Gotta find the one, the holy grail gotta have gun
I got da blues, I got the gun show blues.

I don't know why I keep going back
It's as addictive as smoking crack
I don't have enough money and there it is honey, I got the blues!
I got da blues, I got the gun show blues.
CT
 
Its fun to go to gun shows and look around, but you have to know the prices of things, before you buy, otherwise, they will take you to the cleaners.
 
+1

It's scary to see the newbies walk around trying to sell guns to dealers, and get taken big time. Like any other sales situation, if you haven't done your homework, you're likely not to get a good deal.
 
Gun shows are like religious events for me. Even a bad one beats none at all. I'll generally try to read a current Shotgun News and Gun List to see what the big wholesalers are pushing these days, to make sure my feel for prices is trustworthy.

Last weekend was my first trip to Tulsa for Wannamakers. Holy Cow! I obviously needed a better strategy. I passed up some deals I shoulda took, and got burned out and foot sore before seeing it all. I saw a very nice looking Winchester 1912 in 12g, with LOTS of bluing, prob'ly 80+%, no patina. I thought it musta been re-blued, but the roll marks were so crisp, I couldn't decide. Was that worth $275? By the time I reflected on it, I lost my way back to the table. Saw my very firstest ever "live and in color" Registered Magnum. Where you gonna go see those at your local gunshop?

Learn to ignore the beanie babies and jerky. As for the rest, "It's all good".
 
Locally, we have gunshows about four times a year
at the Civic Auditorium and the local Conference
Center (staggered schedules) and it seems spring and
fall at the fair grounds.

The first poster's experience sounds like the gunshow
from hell, or a nightmare.

First, I prefer to buy guns from my local stocking dealer
because he likes to close up shop and go to the gun club
to let you testfire before buying. When my first Grendel
P10 broke a mainspring, he handled sending it to the
factory and I got it back rebuilt, no charge. Testfire on
used guns before purchase: service after the sale: you
do not get that from gunshow dealers.

Now at gun shows, I have bought a CZvz52 pistol (holster,
two magazines and cleaning rod) for 129.00 and a Marlin 39M
Mountie for 250.00 but mostly I look for ammo, magazines,
spare parts. I passed on a Century CETME at the gunshow
priced at 250.00: no testfire before sale, I no buy on a
Century CETME.

I have seen a gun show dealer who wanted 600.00 for an Iver
Johnson .38 S&W top break (same price he wanted for a
Smith & Wesson top break, same vintage and condition).
And yes, I have seen obviously rebuilt Mauser broomhandles
that the vendor would want you to assume are originals.
And I have found mixed lot .45 ACP in new cardboard boxes.
These vendors are in the minority and I remember them for
next time.

There is a vendor I always buy my MREs from: fair prices
and friendly black husband and wife team. There's a gunsmith
type who always has several tables of odd parts always worth
browsing and reasonable prices. There are good ones too.

Caveat gun show emptor.
 
The Texas Saxet shows are pretty decent. They are the place to buy a standard gun at a price significantly cheaper than the stores in town. Some tables are run by jerks but some are decent.
 
I like the tri-state shows in my area, I have my favorite dealers, one guy always has orginal swede ammo, another colts and if I have the cash always buy since his prices are fair, another mil surplus slings and bayonets at fair prices. There are also a bunch I see show after show with the same overpriced junk, that I don`t waste my time even looking at, but the good out weigh the bad and it beats staying home and cutting the grass.
 
I guess I'm ranting because back in the early 80's gun shows were awesome.

Girls in string bikinis posing with machine guns.. And table after table of cool looking class 3 stuff. Gizmos and all kinds of products were everywhere some were junk some were innovative all were interesting.

There was competition everywhere, M1 carbines for $90, I bought a hakim for $100 and the guy threw in a jungle carbine and a sears 16 guage pump for free.

Everyone seemed nice and ready to haggle or sell or just shoot the breeze.

There were boxes and boxes of misc cartridges, old mags and books, dies
holsters knives etc...

I still have boxes of cool crap I bought back then and I'm still buying guns for
bags of ammo I purchased for .25cents 20 years ago.


Ahh the good old days are gone it seems and gun show people are no longer
cool mercenary types on the edge.

Nowadays all you find are bunch of pissed off old men grubbing pennies and treating customers like dog s***
 
Old Dog said:
Apparently, we're very lucky up in the Evergreen State. The Washington Arms Collectors is not only a fine (and active) group, they put on the best gun show in the West ... I've made a number of excellent trades and even purchased some great used guns (we still see a lot of nice S&W revolvers up here) as well as bought a new gun or too from a dealer's table ... It's not even so much the guns at these shows, though, it's the chance to get together with a lot of like-minded folks (and also be somewhat awed by the sheer numbers of gun folks in attendence).

Old Dog,

Is that the group that puts on the shows at the fairgrounds in Puyallup? If so, I was at one of their shows a few years ago, fine show and friendly people.

DM
 
A bad gun show is still better than a good day at work. I like going to them; you never know what you'll find. Kind of like a garage sale. My girlfriend likes to check them out too; she's found some pretty neat stuff that isn't always gun related. My non-gun owning friends like going as well. I like to see the variety of firearms for sale of course. Sometimes you find good stuff, sometimes you don't.

My favorite story is a guy selling a used and battered 30-30 Marlin lever action. "How much" I asked. His response: $400.00! That Sunday morning in the Mills Fleet Farm ad was a brand new Marlin 30-30 for $280.00. I pointed that fact out to him, and he said, "they don't make 'em like this anymore". I smiled, and thanked him. Finding good deals is your responsibility, not his.
 
The internet is going to be the death of the gun show. I have not bothered setting up at one in a year.

The last show I did was better than all of the year before put together. I sold 3000 rounds of 7.62x39, 10 boxes 20 ga slugs, 3 G17 hi cap mags. 2 pair of BDU, and two boxes of Ranger 9mm. Yes, it was a banner weekend in Illinois.

BTW my tables were just outside of the restrooms.:barf:
 
I go for one dealer alone. Have bought a few pistols from him at decent prices. He's a little gruff, but not not so bad that you can't deal with him. Otherwise, I only go to get ammo cans or odd-caliber ammo.
 
I tend to hate gun shows. I go and being only 21 and looking like a giant 16 year old no one will so much as bother to talk to me unless they are trying to get me to buy a 5 dollar finger killing chinese knife. I dont really know enough to scope out a deal. I did one time find a couple guys who make knives and BSed with them for a while and bought a nice little knife for 50 bucks. Ended up giving it to my cousin, it was a small 3 finger knife for me but it fit her little hand great and she liked it. Other than that Ive always felt as if I had wasted the entrance fee to get into the show.
 
I attend the "Code of the West" gun show in Vallejo, CA 2 or 3 times a year.

Since I've taken an interest in firearms only the past 2 years, I can't comment on what gun shows must've been like back in the Good Old Days.

My take on it is, if you like flea markets and garrage sales, and have an interest in guns, you'll probably like the gun shows. I usually buy ammo there, since I can buy in bulk without having to pay shipping. Miwall is usually there, and they have about the best prices I've seen (not counting mail-order).

There are several things I enjoy about the experience: I get to see things I never knew existed, I get to find things my local gun store doesn't carry, and I can find merchandise that I couldn't get from my local gun store at any price, period.

For instance, I buy most of my firearms on-line. However, I have been wanting an inexpensive .22 revolver. There are very few that are listed on the CA "Approved Handgun" list (yes it sucks big time). The few that are, run $500 or more, a bit steep for a "plinker". It's illegal to bring a handgun into the state that isn't on the approved list, and it's illegal for a dealer to sell one in state that isn't on the approved list. But private party... ah! As long as it's already in the state, and an ffl processes the transfer. So I finally found a H&R 929 that fit the bill precisely - at the gun show. Of course it was about $50 over-priced, and the ffl absolutely raped me on transfer fees, but I don't care - I got what I wanted, which was more important to me than getting a great price, and I still consider it a reasonable deal. As a bonus, I discovered that it fit a second-hand holster I had knocking around. Sweet.

Also, you find some fascinating, one-of-a-kind items. I found a .308 "bubba" built on a Swiss 1911 (rifle) reciever. It looks pretty rough, but it might have potential. I've got an interest in the Swiss straight-pull rifles, and I've been looking for an inexpensive bolt gun in .308 as a platform for a scout-rifle project. Where am I going to find an oddball rifle like that again? At the very least, it's a great conversation piece. Talked the guy down from $175 to 150 - he was decent about it and I may have overpaid but I figure he needs to make a living too. Now I've got my fall "project gun".

As an engineer, I like finding something I haven't seen before, some new or different answer to the question of how to launch a projectile. It is a subject of unending fascination to me. So I can spend 3 hours gawking and fondling, never spend a dime, and walk out with a smile on my face. I do have to laugh at the "good ol boys" with their overpriced junk, but I figure they don't really want to sell anything, they're just there to fill time and hang out with other "gun nuts". Being in CA, it's refreshing to have a venue where you know that everyone in the room is a gun-lover too.

So, though I don't make a point of being there every time the doors are open, I'll continue to put in an appearance, and who knows what trash or treasure I might find there next? That anticipation of sifting the two, that's fun for me.
 
Just climbing back into the chair from rolling in the floor! :D
Funny story. Hated your show sucked though.
I'm lucky. The few shows that I have been to, I have went with my husband. He seems to know what is worth looking at and what to skip over.:scrutiny:
 
I went to one last Saturday, pleasantly surprised at the prices. Not a large amount of guns there. Bought a Mosin Nagant M38, about VG, shiny bore, cleaning rod for $65. Had either a new bolt head or extractor which hadn't been fitted. Other than that OK. I thought the two best buys were a Glock 9mm for $360 and a Norinco 1911 in the box, ratty box, $325. I agree tho that gun shows seem to be going downhill.
 
Here in Florida, we have plenty of guns. Besides the normal dealers & junk dealers, we have a lot of sportsmen, collectors, & CCWers who change their guns around fairly regularly at the shows. I've been pretty happy taking the hand-me-downs from some pretty sophisticated shooters around here.
 
I'm crying from that post. That was golden. You have a great take on gun shows. See you at the next one. :D
 
I like gun shows. I don’t always find deals, but it is nice to look around at least. A lot of people don’t disclose any info on their location, so it is hard to pinpoint the “bad” areas, but northwest Indiana and northeast Illinois put on some decent shows. I find a lot of good deals on reloading equipment at Illinois shows for some reason ($95.00 for a NIB Redding Ultramag press was my best find), and decent deals on ammo and guns in Indiana.

I was at a show in Crown Point Indiana last weekend. It wasn’t the best show, but it was still fun to go to.
 
jashobeam said:
There were, however, some pretty cool knives that I would probably never see in any store.
But you can certainly see most (if not all) of them in the catalogs from Bud K, Atlanta Cutlery and Smokey Mountain Knife Works. And for about 1/3 the price.
 
I find the best deals at gun shows come from other folks walking around with guns to sell. If you know your guns you can get some good ones. I picked up an early Ruger O/U from a guy at a show in Concord (NH) for hundreds less than the stores were asking. It turned out to be a sweet-shooting gun.
 
I must have some kind of memory loss problem or an masochistic tendencies because I still go to the monthly gun show.

Ha, me too! Someday we'll learn...maybe?

Snack bar, Next to the bathroom dear god no. I'm going to go buy a $9 bottle of hoppes to get the smell out of my clothes.

I buy some candy almonds from the girl leaning over with her blouse open. Come to think of it at this point I'm not sure if it was a girl with cleavage or a guy bending over who needed a belt.

LMBO; that is some funny prose man! Thanks.

So WHERE was this?
 
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