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Another "Help me decide on a pistol" poll/thread

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JeeperCreeper, Jul 3, 2018.

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Which platform should I focus on?

  1. Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0... and I guess 1.0

    18 vote(s)
    17.5%
  2. SIG P320 combinations

    11 vote(s)
    10.7%
  3. Beretta 92 variants

    14 vote(s)
    13.6%
  4. Walther PPQ/P99 and friends

    3 vote(s)
    2.9%
  5. CZ75 and it's offspring/clones

    39 vote(s)
    37.9%
  6. Wildcard: none of the above

    18 vote(s)
    17.5%
  1. JeeperCreeper

    JeeperCreeper Member

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    So I'm kicking around the idea of consolidating my 9mm auto platforms. I don't plan on liquidating my collection, but I'd like to focus on one platform for the sake of training, parts, maintenance, and just not "being a jack of all trades but master of none"

    So I kinda limited it down to a few popular platforms. I am equally as partial to hammer or striker fired, polymer or steel. I think all that I mentioned in my poll are reliable and from good manufacturers. Sadly, Glock is the easy answer, but I haven't found one I like the grip on yet. Maybe by Gen 12.

    So Glock is out.

    Considerations: Value, aftermarket support, customization

    Uses: Home defense, competition/sport, hobby/tinkering, and general utility pistol
     
  2. MedWheeler

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    I like DA/SA hammer-fireds, but that's just me. I do pretty good with them for what I use them. The only one I own now with that mechanism is a Ruger P95 (in 9mm Luger, at least; I have others in "the other two" 9mms, 9x17 and 9x18.)

    So, for the poll, I chose the Beretta 92 and its variants/similars class, assuming you mean guns of other makes, but which are still similar, qualify as well. Of course, the CZ 75, to me, goes in that expanded group, rather than one of its own.
     
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  3. Winkman822

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    Even though I'm a Walther guy through and through, and carry a P99 daily, I do find them to be a little bit of a pain in the aftermarket accessories department (i.e. holsters, sights, etc). The S&W has an accessories market that is nearly as prolific as the Glock platform, and they're a solid platform that will serve one well for the philosophies of use described. Having said that, I would recommend remaining a student of weapons systems and ensure that you are at least somewhat proficient on a variety of commonly encountered weapons systems.
     
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  4. Kendal Black

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    I voted for the Beretta because it is so thoroughly tried and proven. All the potential bugs are well understood by now and on the whole, the gun has distinguished itself as a solidly reliable sidearm. Parts and accessories are widely available. Gun tuning expertise is available from specialty gunsmiths if you are so inclined, but I think the gun is all right as it is.
     
  5. WrongHanded

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    Sig P226 and P225. Buy once, cry once.

    I doubt many others would go this route, but I'm partial to the design and don't mind the "extra" weight.
     
  6. Mn Fats

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    Is there any reason the HK VP9 isn't an option? I had one and my buddy had a P320. We were both at my range and decided to give each other's a try. His P320 fit me better and my HK was a better fit for him. Both are amazing guns with great reputations for accuracy. We traded right there on the spot. Couldn't be happier. Give the HK a look for sure.

    Also, where's the BHP? My all time favorite 9mm hands down.
     
  7. the count

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    This has got to be one of the worst polls ever! Obviously a very clueless person. Caution: Who tells you the people voting here have any idea what they are doing? It's like asking which brand of car should I concentrate on?
     
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  8. FL-NC

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    Of what you listed, I would go with the M&P. I prefer Glock myself, but the M&P series are also excellent firearms, as are the Springfield XD pistols (also not listed). IMO, after having been issued SA pistols (1911), transitional DA (M9, Sig 228, MK23) and finally a striker handgun (Glock 19 and 17) striker is the way to go- not pretty, but rugged, reliable, and simple.
     
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  9. NIGHTLORD40K

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    Well, odds are the membership here has widespread experience with a large variety of handgun platforms. And he is asking for our constructive, educated opinions, not for statistical analysis backed up by lab results.

    It's his poll, he can ask whatever he wants.

    Why don't you try to be helpful instead of knocking the OPs legitimate question and calling him clueless? Or, better yet leave the forum as it's clear you have no idea which road is the High one.
     
  10. Mn Fats

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    The choices wouldn't be my firsts but why be so condescending? Your the one coming off as clueless.
     
  11. Mn Fats

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    It's THR, so according to your analogy, its more like asking a group of mechanics which brand of car they'd recommend. I recommend the HK VP9 or a SIG P320. BHP is my favorite 9mm. Maybe I "have no idea what I'm doing", but these are my choices. Best of luck JeeperCreeper.
     
  12. MosinT53Hunter

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    Beretta would be a good one. Lots of parts, magazines, info available, etc. I'm an odd ball when it comes to guns, so I have a Daewoo DP51. Best of luck on your newest pistol.
     
  13. TomJ
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    The good news is that among the options you listed, you can't go wrong. Of them I own the P320, M&P 2.0 and some CZ's. My favorite is the CZ with the Cajun Gun works Ultra LIte kit installed, in that it has a smooth trigger, is incredibly accurate as well as reliable. I have the PCR, 75 Stainless, SP01 and just picked up the Phantom, which is fantastic. The M&P 2.0 is a close second. I have both the full size and compact 9mm and the 45. They've all been 100% reliable. Having 4 grip options means you should find one that fits you well. The grips are rough but not too rough, which is great when you're shooting it as it does not move around in your hand, but not so great when I carry it IWB as it's putting small holes in my shirts. The P320 has been great, and will serve you well. I shoot the other two better, but that's a personal preference.
     
  14. Fiv3r

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    I've been very happy with my P320. I haven't invested in the platform more than buying a compact frame for the full side slide to make it carry more like a Glock 19. I had an old p250 compact magazine laying around, so I was only out the 40 bucks to switch the grip.

    I also picked up a 21 round magazine. My thought is that the 2 17 rounders are nice to have as they fit the full size and compact frame well. I carry the gun with the compact grip and magazine inserted and carry either a 17 rounder or the 21 for back up as they both fit my extra magazine pouch.

    The p320 killed off my Glocks and FNS. It feels better in hand, shoots better, and the aftermarket support should be good for a generation as a .gov sidearm.

    All of them on the list are fine choices. I'd still love a compact M9 with a rail to be honest.
     
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  15. Coyote3855

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    I like the S&W M&P series. Train with .22 LR, carry 9mm. Same action, same holster.
     
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  16. SharpDog

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    I voted for the p320. But I carry this one. (Sig M11A1) I prefer the hammer for riding into the holster and the fact that it is internally phosphate coated. If you like a slightly larger piece it's bigger brother, the Mk 25 has these same features. 15 rounds, no waiting:

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    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/90470/Firearms/Handguns/Sig+Sauer/Sig+Sauer+M11-A1-D+M11A1+Desert+15+1+9mm+3.9

    Also available in black for those formal occasions:

    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/83373/Firearms/Handguns/Sig+Sauer/Sig+Sauer+M11-A1+M11A1+15+1+9mm+3.9

    Mk 25:

    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/90472/Firearms/Handguns/Sig+Sauer/Sig+Sauer+MK-25-D+P226+MK25+Desert+15+1+9mm+4.4

    and black:

    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=sig+mk25

    and there's a Mk 25 Romeo ... darn it ... #ENVY ... ;)

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    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...Sig+Sauer+-+P226+9MM+FDE+Romeo1+Reflex+Sight+
     
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  17. brunowbe

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    I would vote for a 1911 in 9mm. I bought one just recently and love it in the flavor of a Colt Competition Government model. It checks off every box for you, only downside is limited ammo capacity in the mags. Mine has run perfectly out of the box, though I’ve only run 124 grain out of it so far.
     
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  18. I6turbo

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    I didn't do it because I was trying to consolidate, but rather because I bought what I found that I like to shoot. You can see where I've ended up with regard to semi-automatic centerfires; five CZs and a Hi Power. Sold and gone are my Kimber 1911, HK P2000, and Beretta 92.

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    All of my CZs have at least some Cajun Gun Works parts in them. I highly recommend their Ultra-Lite kit for any CZ 75 based gun, or the 97. Someday I want to add an SP-01 because I want to have the option of a rail. Otherwise, the 85 Combat is my favorite.

    This 85 Combat has the CGW Ultra-Lite kit, 6 SAO trigger, Race Hammer Kit, floating trigger pin, and the CZ 75 Pre-B short trigger reset. It is fantastic to shoot, and I think I MUST convert the 97 B to the same setup. It eliminates the camming of the hammer, dramatically reduces S/A trigger pull, eliminates trigger over-travel, and makes the trigger reset within the thickness of the trigger. As good as a nice 1911 trigger, IMO.

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  19. Fine Figure of a Man

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    I concur.

    A list of good 9's to choose from.
    I can't say if it would be best for your needs but I recently got a great deal on a Walther PPQ M1 and I'm liking it a lot.
     
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  20. mdThanatos

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    I have the Beretta, CZ, and S&W 2.0 platforms from your poll as well as glock. From the full size pistol aspect I like all of them, but the best for me has been the CZ.
     
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  21. Walkalong

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    Those are tough choices, all have a good rep. The only one I am familiar with is the CZ-75, which is a great choice. I have an XDm OSP that I really like, but it isn't an option in your poll. I also love my 1911 9MMs, but those are not an option either.

    So my vote is CZ-75, but since I haven't shot the other ones, it isn't very good advise. I do want to try the Sig 320, and have eyeballed the ones with the red dot built in.
     
  22. TomJ
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    OP, I'm not sure what your budget is, but I have the P320RX Walkalong referred to, and for a quality gun and red dot sight it's a good deal. You'll find them for under $900. Mine's been reliable, and while the gun with regular sights for me is not as accurate as my CZ's, the red dot sight makes up for that and the accuracy is fantastic. The only downside is a somewhat limited holster selection for CC. The ones I've tried aren't bad as far as comfort goes, but they're not great.
     
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  23. jonb32248

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    Ok well I will be odd ball, how about SA XD-E? Comes with an 8rd and 9 rd. mag., hammer fired. Or a Lionheart LH9C? Ck it out, nice gun!
     
  24. viking499

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    CZ if you want your gun to have a hammer.

    M&P 2.0 if you want to go striker fired. Skip the 1.0 group.
     
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  25. JeeperCreeper

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    I'm sorry for whatever put you in a bad mood on this holiday week, but rest assured, clueless I am not.

    This poll is like "talking shop". This is an internet forum, not an official binding contract. The guns I picked are ones I'm interested in. I'm very familiar with these platforms and more.

    But more opinions and perspectives never hurt, because I don't "have" to listen to all.

    You never chatted with buddies about ideas or purchases before? This is basically the anonymous internet version of that....
     
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